Dominions 3 game: Quartertodawn

[Mysterio]

Originally Posted by ThornFalconeye

*wrings hands* for mysterio has taught me how to deal with that! (he killed me with it)

Remind me what it was I killed you with, and in which game. I don't remember!

(...not that I've killed you many times, of course...)

[McKnight]

Originally Posted by ThornFalconeye

erm... that would mean that I fought a long and bloody war to gain absolutely no land, crippling my research and economy for no reason. I cannot afford to take those terms.

What if, looking at the cut of the river above that, you get the land enclosed by that tributary: so you get the capital and 117, while I keep all lands east and south of there.


hehe- after seeing both of your armies- I am not that impressed!

*wrings hands* for mysterio has taught me how to deal with that! (he killed me with it)

Kill him Thorn, Kill him good.

[Scribble]

Sir Digby,

You've staled two times in the last four turns, and have not yet submitted the current turn. Busy schedule? If you lack time or motivation to continue we could look for a sub.

[Sir Digby]

Sorry, my desktop (where I've been running Dominions) was unavailable for a week, I can say without a doubt I wont be skipping any turns from now on.

[Scribble]

Ok, that's cool. I was worried you were just bored being stuck underwater - even though Oceania is listed as having an "easy" starting position, it doesn't strike me as very newbie friendly. Not much that can threaten you, fair enough, but really hard to get a foothold on land and become a major power.

[Mysterio]

Originally Posted by Scribble

Sir Digby,

You've staled two times in the last four turns, and have not yet submitted the current turn. Busy schedule? If you lack time or motivation to continue we could look for a sub.

Originally Posted by Sir Digby

Sorry, my desktop (where I've been running Dominions) was unavailable for a week, I can say without a doubt I wont be skipping any turns from now on.

He's too busy playing Blood Bowl.

(...runs away...)

[McKnight]

Originally Posted by Mysterio

He's too busy playing Blood Bowl.

(...runs away...)

Well he had to do something after he decided not to buy SC2 ;)

[farfrael]

Stalker alert !

hosting in a few hours, don't forget to send your turn
To revive what appears to be a flagging interest, wondering if we should not shorten the timer for each turn?

[Sir Digby]

Originally Posted by Mysterio

He's too busy playing Blood Bowl.

(...runs away...)

Like I said, I run Dominions on my desktop, BB and other games I usually play on my laptop, wife decided to mess with it and allow it to become riddled with worms/trojans/younameit.

Anyway, damn stalkers! *shakes fist*

@McKnight: unemployed new dad = no money for new games, unless you are feeling so philanthropic you might consider buying it for me, yes? *puppy eyes*

[McKnight]

Originally Posted by Sir Digby

@McKnight: unemployed new dad = no money for new games, unless you are feeling so philanthropic you might consider buying it for me, yes? *puppy eyes*

We'll see if my commission finally comes through, right now I'm broke aswell.

[Sir Digby]

By the way, hosting in 6 hours and I haven't received my turn?

[Evil Steve]

Originally Posted by McKnight

Kill him Thorn, Kill him good.

Ulm just killed me good. I knew it was only a matter of time before one of the biggies knocked me off.

Da Wolf az been skinned and laid out at da feet of Krom

[farfrael]

This is a tragedy dear cousin

Ulm, please note Vanheim will take possession of 108 this turn and we intend to claim 115 and 122 as well as a buffer zone to protect us from you naked aggression

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by farfrael

This is a tragedy dear cousin

Ulm, please note Vanheim will take possession of 108 this turn and we intend to claim 115 and 122 as well as a buffer zone to protect us from you naked aggression

Helheim has sown the wind, and is now reaping the whirlwind. Their magical attacks on my capital could not go unpunished. Interference from the Van will not be tolerated. Krom does not currently hold Vanheim in ill favor due to their blood association with the treacherous people of Helheim. Pray he does not change his mind.

Skylords of Caelum: You have free reign on the Eastern side of the mountains as far as Krom is concerned. He hopes you grow strong and able to stand against the Arcoscephale menace.

[farfrael]

Originally Posted by Scribble

Helheim has sown the wind, and is now reaping the whirlwind. Their magical attacks on my capital could not go unpunished. Interference from the Van will not be tolerated. Krom does not currently hold Vanheim in ill favor due to their blood association with the treacherous people of Helheim. Pray he does not change his mind.

Skylords of Caelum: You have free reign on the Eastern side of the mountains as far as Krom is concerned. He hopes you grow strong and able to stand against the Arcoscephale menace.

You cannot expect me to let you have 108

[ThornFalconeye]

Originally Posted by farfrael

You cannot expect me to let you have 108

108 is the crown jewel of the nation!

[Juffo-Wup]

Originally Posted by Evil Steve

Ulm just killed me good. I knew it was only a matter of time before one of the biggies knocked me off.

Da Wolf az been skinned and laid out at da feet of Krom

Looks like things are heating up! Perhaps your best option is to parley with C'tis and the proud EASTERN BLOC. Strike a blow for us against the capitalist oppressor, comrade.

This message brought to you by Ambisol. Ambisol, keeping your children scabies-free since 2007.

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by farfrael

You cannot expect me to let you have 108

I already possess 108. It was never yours, and I don't see why it is reasonable to cede it to you without compensation. It forms a useful chokepoint between the lands of Hel and Van, and I would rather be the one occupying it. Should you have a massive army on the border I might be forced to reconsider your demands, but I can't see a single troop there!

Also, all in the North should note that while Krom has struck a strong first blow and captured a lot of Helheim land, our armies have not yet clashed. There is still a war to be fought.

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by Sir Digby

By the way, hosting in 6 hours and I haven't received my turn?

I didn't spot this in time for it to be relevant. If you have not received your turn, you can request a resend from llamaserver. There's a link from the status page: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....=Quartertodawn

Should resending not work for some reason, and the turn is not caught in your spam filter or anything like that, you should contact me and I'll postpone hosting while we try to figure out what's going on.

[dfs]

From Ulm.....

Originally Posted by Scribble

To demonstrate our peaceful intent and to cement our good relationship, we offer the following to our neighbours .....Marverni:

Non-aggression pact, with three turn notice if one party should desire to break it.

Notice.

It is turn 43. I expect Crom to find his way to my lands on turn 46.

Perhaps an intial bloodletting would have been a better way. I'm left with little choice. I expect it will be a short war. My Crom be merciful.

(I really don't like Mavarni.)

[farfrael]

Originally Posted by Scribble

I already possess 108. It was never yours, and I don't see why it is reasonable to cede it to you without compensation. It forms a useful chokepoint between the lands of Hel and Van, and I would rather be the one occupying it. Should you have a massive army on the border I might be forced to reconsider your demands, but I can't see a single troop there!

Also, all in the North should note that while Krom has struck a strong first blow and captured a lot of Helheim land, our armies have not yet clashed. There is still a war to be fought.

Ulm is clearly only interested in bringing war to its smaller neighbours
It is pretty obvious by its position that we cannot accept to let you occupy 108

If I read this correctly, Marveni can be assured of our support against this tyrant

[farfrael]

also, where is that "From Ulm" message coming from? :)

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by farfrael

Ulm is clearly only interested in bringing war to its smaller neighbours
It is pretty obvious by its position that we cannot accept to let you occupy 108

If I read this correctly, Marveni can be assured of our support against this tyrant

I don't think smaller neighbour is a fair characterization of Helheim, we had about the same amount of territory - and I had good cause to go after them regardless, if not for past treachery then for their continued magical attacks.

You may call that tyranny, but I do not find much honor in the naked opportunism demonstrated by Marverni and yourself either. Helheim is still fighting to survive, and you seem rather keen on taking over his former lands before he has much of a chance to fight me back.

[farfrael]

Ha, what treachery are you talking about?

Ulm invaded what is an integral part of Vanheim's territory (previously occupied by our friendly cousin) and your words and deeds show with clarity Ulm's intention to turn this non-issue into a casus beli!

If your intentions were not so clearly tainted by naked expansionism you would simply have left Vanheim occupy this lone piece of territory but, alas, you have shown your true colours.

Nobody wants to take over Hellheim's land but simply contain the horribly naked greed of a newly born Tyrant in the East !

If we are to survive this ordeal we need to bring this mad and twisted god to justice for his actions. Vanheim therefore offers a defence pact to its neighbours currently threatened by Ulm's destructive ambition.

(whooo, gotta love when things perk up a bit finally, I'll probably end up getting stomped in the mud but hey, at least I'll have more fun! Also, D3 somewhat reminds me of Steven Erikson's saga :) )

[dfs]

Originally Posted by farfrael

also, where is that "From Ulm" message coming from? :)

much further upthread. I was quoting the post to show the terms of the NAP.

[dfs]

Originally Posted by Scribble

You may call that tyranny, but I do not find much honor in the naked opportunism demonstrated by Marverni and yourself either.

Was Hellheim spamming magical attacks on you? That does have explanatory value. Someone hit me, although I do not know who. If it was Hellheim, then I was not left with an avenue to pursue revenge against them when you took the boundary.

"naked opportunism?" Ouch, the words sting, but I suppose they are accurate from your point of view.

Just to be clear, the mavarni did not call it tyranny. Just fate. We should have fought like beasts on turn 1. Instead I looked for a way to defy the map and avoid war with Ulm. It was the wrong thing to do.

With the destruction of Hellheim...I see no way to avoid that war any longer. We do not have resources to stand against what Ulm already has in the field. If we let you grow stronger, the mavarni will surely eclipse. The NAP must be broken and we will do what we must.

[Evil Steve]

Originally Posted by Scribble

I don't think smaller neighbour is a fair characterization of Helheim, we had about the same amount of territory - and I had good cause to go after them regardless, if not for past treachery then for their continued magical attacks.

We will say two things - our war with you was not treacherous in the sense that we had any agreements in place, and we have NEVER attacked your capital with magic. We do not think that this will change much, but it should make you think about WHO HAS BEEN attacking your capital, if it is, indeed, true.

(I don't think I have much chance with my forces spread as they are, and with the experienced players having been allowed a clean run to the artifact end-game, of which I know not a lot, but for me it's mainly about fun, and a good stoush is always good fun, even if it is short)

WOLF

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by Evil Steve

We will say two things - our war with you was not treacherous in the sense that we had any agreements in place, and we have NEVER attacked your capital with magic. We do not think that this will change much, but it should make you think about WHO HAS BEEN attacking your capital, if it is, indeed, true.

Interesting. The truth of the matter is that I could not be absolutely sure it was you, but the spell blight requires that you have both earth and death magic. I was hit twice in one turn at one point, which rules out someone using their pretender - likely had to be a recruited mage. The only nations in the game with mages that can cast the spell naturally is Ulm, Helheim and Vanheim to my knowledge. As I doubt the Van want to randomly waste earth gems from their limited stockpile to weaken a nation that they're not even neighbouring, that pretty much just leaves Helheim on the suspect list. Of course, an alternative explanation is that someone (most likely Arcoscephale) has found earth/death independent mages and is doing it to stir up shit and sow the seeds of conflict. Hopefully the guilty party will come forward after the game has finished, I'm quite curious about this.

As for past treachery, well, it might not have seemed that way to you. But I thought you had accepted my NAP offer, and submitted my turn in the belief that we were at peace. Then you reject shortly before the turn hosts and I am left with no time to change my orders for the turn and protect myself properly (which I should have done in any case, but still). You attack and up in smoke goes part of my army, my 1000 gold fortress under construction and my temple.

[Scribble]

And as I'm always harping on people to get them to write action reports, here goes:

At the fortress in Helhalla, Krom stands alone outside the gate. Being unable to damage the gate, he is reduced to writing insults on boulders using the blood of villagers and chucking them over the walls in the hopes that the spirits of the defenders will be broken. This seems to have been effective, because the gates burst open and more than a dozen svartalfs and hangadrotts emerge with valkyrie bodyguards and a couple of undead behemoths leading the charge. The Helheim mages proceed to conjure up a horde of earth elementals and skeletons the likes of which I have never seen. Wave after wave shambled forward, and wave after wave broke upon Krom's body like waves upon the shore. This continues for as long as the game mechanics allow, until the Helheim mages are forced to retreat. The only casualties suffered were the behemoths, all mages escaped with their lives.

Elsewere a massive attack was expected by Vanheim, but instead all that happened was that a few hawks flew in and shat all over the village square. Thanks a lot farfrael! We're not even going to clean it up, you can do that when your real army arrives.

[dfs]

Originally Posted by Scribble

Interesting. The truth of the matter is that I could not be absolutely sure it was you, but the spell blight requires that you have both earth and death magic. I was hit twice in one turn at one point, which rules out someone using their pretender - likely had to be a recruited mage.

They got me as well. Lots of candidates. Wish I knew the early era better.

Originally Posted by Evil Steve

(I don't think I have much chance with my forces spread as they are, and with the experienced players having been allowed a clean run to the artifact end-game, of which I know not a lot, but for me it's mainly about fun, and a good stoush is always good fun, even if it is short)

Good read. I'm too far behind and might as well put myself out of my misery.