Dominions 3 game: Quartertodawn

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by dfs

It looks like either way you and I are neighbors again. If you would like Marverni, I'll take Ulm. If you don't want to make that trade...that's good.

Looked into Marverni. Seems interesting, but I dread the idea of having my best mages being old in yet another game. Guess I'm sticking with Ulm.

[farfrael]

Originally Posted by Sir Digby

Oh... Tritons... *confused*

Don't even think about putting your scaly feet on MY coasts fishboy !
On the other hand, I heard the southern realm of Sauromatia likes visitors

[dfs]

Originally Posted by Scribble

Looked into Marverni. Seems interesting, but I dread the idea of having my best mages being old in yet another game. Guess I'm sticking with Ulm.

After looking at it...I'm relieved. That's a tough starting spot.

[Jason Lutes]

I'd love to hear how this goes if anyone cares to post an AAR or something. Always curious about how the map plays out.

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by Jason Lutes

I'd love to hear how this goes if anyone cares to post an AAR or something. Always curious about how the map plays out.

I probably will post an AAR one way or another. What sort of feedback have you gotten on how it plays? If I remember correctly from the time I went through the whole old Dom 3 thread, Agartha won a game that was played on it a couple of years ago.

[Sir Digby]

Originally Posted by farfrael

Don't even think about putting your scaly feet on MY coasts fishboy !
On the other hand, I heard the southern realm of Sauromatia likes visitors

On my single player game, using a statue as my physical form *waits for laughter* and pumping water magic I actually rode the waves controlling all water regions and squashed the under dwelling Agarthans under my webbed feet... only to have them cry for blood after the death of their god and wiping out my weakling mermages and their armies...

And I can't read "mermage" or "merman" without hearing in my mind Derek Zoolander saying "MERMAAAANNN!".

[Jason Lutes]

Originally Posted by Scribble

I probably will post an AAR one way or another. What sort of feedback have you gotten on how it plays? If I remember correctly from the time I went through the whole old Dom 3 thread, Agartha won a game that was played on it a couple of years ago.

Well, the map's not supposed to be balanced, so I just end up being curious about how accurate my initial assessments of difficulty for the different starting positions were, and how players deal with it. So far people have pretty much agreed with the difficulty ratings that I included with the map file.

And yeah, if I remember right Agartha won that one Qt3 game.

[farfrael]

pretender submitted

[dfs]

Originally Posted by farfrael

Don't even think about putting your scaly feet on MY coasts fishboy !
On the other hand, I heard the southern realm of Sauromatia likes visitors

Come ashore by mavarni. We love sushi.

[McKnight]

Not too sure about this yet Scribble, but I might not have the funds to get into this game at the moment. Right now it's 50/50 whether I'll have the game by Tuesday so it might be a n idea to start looking for a replacement.

Then again I might be alright, it all depends on when a check decides to clear for me.

[ThornFalconeye]

Hmm- im torn on my pretender build: but unsure if I should reveal what my problem is. some people might take advantage of it, or not, I dont know yet.

Can I trust you guys?

[McKnight]

Well you can definitely trust about 5 of us. Since we'll have no idea what your talking about anyway ;)

[dfs]

Originally Posted by ThornFalconeye

Hmm- im torn on my pretender build: but unsure if I should reveal what my problem is. some people might take advantage of it, or not, I dont know yet.

Can I trust you guys?

Anything to help.......heh.

[ddtibbs]

I notice Caelum's position isn't rated as being hard, it's VERY hard. If the hardest won victory is the sweetest, winning this will be like drinking ambrosia from the Pantokrator's own cup.

Pretender submitted. Remember, when you look to heaven, you will see the Sky Lords looking down upon you.

Ahura Mazda
Goddess of Caelum

[ThornFalconeye]

Originally Posted by ThornFalconeye

Hmm- im torn on my pretender build: but unsure if I should reveal what my problem is. some people might take advantage of it, or not, I dont know yet.

Can I trust you guys?

I solved it by using polyhedrons. Let the world tremble beneath the might of the lizard mage ThornFalconeye! convinently named so you always know who you are dealing with :D

Uploaded C'tis!

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by McKnight

Not too sure about this yet Scribble, but I might not have the funds to get into this game at the moment. Right now it's 50/50 whether I'll have the game by Tuesday so it might be a n idea to start looking for a replacement.

Then again I might be alright, it all depends on when a check decides to clear for me.

Unfortunately I think you're right McKnight. That all sounds a bit uncertain, and if you get the game on Mon/Tues you're going to be hard pressed to build a pretender and start making decisions without even having had time to fire up a single player game.

Unless you get the game this weekend and can put some time into it, perhaps we should look for a substitute. Anyone interested in the EA Ermor position?

[farfrael]

If we cannot find a substitute, would it be possible to declare the Ermor territory untouchable and go with 11 players?

also, *paging Evil Steve to discuss standings :)

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by farfrael

If we cannot find a substitute, would it be possible to declare the Ermor territory untouchable and go with 11 players?

also, *paging Evil Steve to discuss standings :)

Not a good solution. Ermor is quite central on the map, a lot of neighbours, and this would be unbalancing to those next to them. We definately want a human at the helm. But finding a substitute shouldn't be too hard, anyone know any likely candidates?

[Evil Steve]

HELL-HEIM is in.

Be afraid.

Your furry friend....

[Sir Digby]

Pretender submitted.

[McKnight]

Just bought the game there Scribble so we are good to go :)

Should have my pretender submitted on Monday, I want to mess around with the game for the weekend first.

[tiohn]

If anyone else has to bail, I would like to be considered as a replacement. I played one MP game here a few years ago and am otherwise a newbie.

[VendoViper]

Pretender submitted the monkeys shall rise from the ashes and rule the world!

[ThornFalconeye]

Oh I am excited!!!! Dominions rules!

[Juffo-Wup]

Arcosephale submitted. We believe only in the power of SCIENCE!

[dfs]

Mavarni has not submitted a pretender and....well I have some ideas, but little time. I'm guessing that it may still be a couple days. Sorry guys.

[McKnight]

Originally Posted by dfs

Mavarni has not submitted a pretender and....well I have some ideas, but little time. I'm guessing that it may still be a couple days. Sorry guys.

Haha don't worry you have plenty of time, I'm still making my way through the tutorial :)

[Scribble]

Still missing pretenders from Agartha, Ermor, Sauromatia, Marverni. Those of you who have not already sent me your email addresses need to do so. And someone submitted a pretender for R'lyeh (?). Hope that wasn't any of you guys, I deleted it. :)

[McKnight]

So I've managed to play the first year or so on the Map twice now and I think I'm actually starting to get a Strategy together. Snagged ~8 provinces in the first year and with a bit more refining I'll hopefully get that up to 10.

I still have absolutely no clue as to how to build my Pretender yet though, or what's a normal research speed, or when and how I should be searching for these so called 'magic sites'.

[Scribble]

Originally Posted by McKnight

I still have absolutely no clue as to how to build my Pretender yet though, or what's a normal research speed, or when and how I should be searching for these so called 'magic sites'.

I'm sure books could be written on the subject of pretender design. I think the most common way to approach it is to have your pretender shore up the weaknesses of your nation. Often a mistake to make a pretender that has the same magical paths as your national mages. I'm sure the wiki has a lot on this. Here are a couple of general ideas:

Awake Great Wyrm, dominion 9, 153 points left over for scales. This is the guy dfs mentioned upthread, he's AFAIK available to all nations. I would generally not recommend it, as its usefulness really diminishes as the game goes on. However he's just about the only pretender you can send out on the first turn blind, and will typically take a province for you every turn.

Awake Prince of Death, dominion 9, death 4, exactly 120 points left over for scales. A better choice for an awake supercombatant I think. Need to pick your targets a bit more carefully early on, but great mobility and will become better and better as you kit him out with gear. It's best for nations that start with earth magic, because they can forge a black steel breastplate for him on turn 2 which moves his protection up to 20. In the start against independents you can just put him in a corner and give him orders to holdx5 and attack rearmost, his fear+awe will do he job.

Dormant Titan, dominion 7, earth 6 and air 4, 161 points left over for scales. Another take on a supercombatant. This guy really needs a decent amount of gear, so no reason to take him awake. Earth and air provides great self-buffs for him, he can cloud trapeze to intercept troublesome armies and he can forge important stuff like dwarven hammers and staves of elemental mastery. The bless from him can be somewhat useful if you have sacred mages, and he is lightning immune which is always a plus when you start next to say, Caelum.