McCain's new low

Matthew Gallant · 09-09-2008, 07:34 PM

His latest ad takes Obama's vote for legislation to create programs that teach kindergarteners what to do if they are victims of a sexual predator and recasts it as a vote for "sex education" for five year-olds. In other words, Obama wants to show your baby pictures of erect penises and will greatly enjoy it.

I really can't believe he's gone this far from the ideals of the service academies and the honor code. It doesn't only diminish him, it diminishes all academy grads.

JeffL · 09-09-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Gallant

His latest ad takes Obama's vote for legislation to create programs that teach kindergarteners what to do if they are victims of a sexual predator and recasts it as a vote for "sex education" for five year-olds. In other words, Obama wants to show your baby pictures of erect penises and will greatly enjoy it.

I really can't believe he's gone this far from the ideals of the service academies and the honor code. It doesn't only diminish him, it diminishes all academy grads.

Ugh. Haven't seen that ad here in Missouri yet. That is slimy.

extarbags · 09-09-2008, 07:45 PM

Looking forward to seeing the right-wingers' defense of this.

jerri blank · 09-09-2008, 08:05 PM

They won't even try to defend it - they're tickled pink. Remember - these are the people who trot Tundra Barbie out every day to repeat that lie about the Bridge to Nowhere. Do you think they give a flying fuck about the truth?

This is how they win elections. Democrats bring a spork to a gunfight.

jfletch · 09-09-2008, 08:06 PM

I don't get too many of these ads (New Jersey), but yea, I remember reading about ads like this from Republicans quite a bit in 2006. It worked quite well for them, if I remember.

dashingly · 09-09-2008, 08:55 PM

So that's what my favorite blogger was rambling about.

MikeSofaer · 09-09-2008, 09:07 PM

So why no counter-ad? "John McCain wants your children to be defenseless against sexual predators"

Lorini · 09-09-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSofaer

So why no counter-ad? "John McCain wants your children to be defenseless against sexual predators"

Because Dems won't stoop that low, they'd rather be kicked in the ass and go tumbling backwards.

Funkula · 09-09-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dashingly

So that's what my favorite blogger was rambling about.

Oh wow.

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just remeber 911 remeber the cole remeber the hostages in iran in the 80 s than think Iraq is bigger than you think it is a fight for fanactis who wants us all dead because we fight so the liberals can believe that we are wrong they are the ones that take freedoms to the extremes but yet let man and mothers in uniforms fight for them to have the right to not believe in god our so they dont have to wear a hood over their face woman want to run around have naked well remeber if muslim radicals had it theri way you would be shot for wearing a bikini or for having unmarred sex or for talking to a man in public on second thought maybe we should let the libs live in Iran for a day than see what thier oppinions are

Holy shit this guy is practically my neighbor :(

jerri blank · 09-09-2008, 09:14 PM

I am assuming he's not for real.

dashingly · 09-09-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jerri blank

I am assuming he's not for real.

What makes you doubt the authenticity of him?

jerri blank · 09-09-2008, 09:36 PM

Just a feeling I have. Perhaps I'm giving him too much credit, guessing he's a brilliant satirist when actually he's a semi-literate Republican knuckle-dragger.

I'll let others here be the judge:

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Obama as part of his education reform wants to start teaching sex ed in kindnergarding this is the truth , i take this to heart cause my daughter just started kindergarding this year and i have a 2 year old son that will go there in 3 years if he does win and anyone trys to teach my kids about sex or talk to them about religion i will sue the govt i take my kids to church every sunday my daughter is in awana , i will teach them abouit sex and i will teach them to wait , i know how i am a freak i have been told this when man was talking about the different partners they i said i have one partner she is my wife i was 26 my first time because i follow the word of God . my wonderful wife was not taught this but she believes it , she is a born again christain because i told her about Jesus and as for me and my household we serve the lord Jesus as for you Mr Obama if you want to teach your kids go on but you and your agenda better keep far away from my kids .

wildpokerman · 09-09-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jerri blank

Just a feeling I have. Perhaps I'm giving him too much credit, guessing he's a brilliant satirist when actually he's a semi-literate Republican knuckle-dragger.

I'll let others here be the judge:

Jeff K done grew up.

Funkula · 09-09-2008, 09:43 PM

My first thought was that it was a troll, but the evidence is slight.

1. He doesn't have any real tells. It would be hard to resist using some of the more amusing memes from this election (arugula and terrorist fist jabs come to mind) but he doesn't go for any of the guaranteed laugh lines. I think the most suspicious thing is his spelling of "christaininty" but I know there really are people who mash the keyboard with their hammy fingers and regard the idea of correcting typos with repugnance.
2. He's claiming to be from Garland. Anyone with little knowledge of the region would just say Dallas, anyone from outside the region but politically knowledgeable would pick Farmers Branch (because of the "renting to illegals" flap a couple years ago), and anyone from around here would probably pick Mesquite (although this category could maybe go for Garland).

If he's faking, he's very good at avoiding the easy jokes. My bullshit detector is inclined toward The Real Deal.

ydejin · 09-09-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jerri blank

This is how they win elections. Democrats bring a spork to a gunfight.

Sad but true.

MattKeil · 09-09-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fucking idiot

Obama as part of his education reform wants to start teaching sex ed in kindnergarding this is the truth

Clearly he should be revamping spelling education first.

TomChick · 09-09-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jerri blank

these are the people who trot Tundra Barbie out every day to repeat that lie about the Bridge to Nowhere

You're doing it wrong! It's Caribou Barbie!

-Tom

Athryn · 09-10-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TomChick

You're doing it wrong! It's Caribou Barbie!

-Tom

Indeed! :P

bago · 09-10-2008, 04:13 AM

Is thiss Psycheout with his whole BLoggers4Brownback bit?

Bahimiron · 09-10-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Athryn

Indeed! :P

Looks like someone's ready for the next season of Robot Chicken.

Midnight Son · 09-10-2008, 04:40 AM

Hey Dems! It's time to stoop. The high road leads to Loserville.

Lorini · 09-10-2008, 06:20 AM

Do any of you believe that guy would vote for Obama anyway? C'mon.

John Many Jars · 09-10-2008, 09:47 AM

Hey, Bristol Palin didn't need any sex education! Just a mother who cares about her.

BlueJackalope · 09-10-2008, 10:00 AM

TNR has some background about the man behind the "new low" ad -

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_p...o-new-low.aspx

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Schmidt's candidate--an Indiana state senator named Joe Zakas--was trailing in the polls when, one week before election day, Schmidt seized on Roemer's vote for a July 1991 amendment to produce a mailer labeled "Tim Roemer's Sex Survey." (One of the 60,000 Indiana 3rd congressional district voters who received the mailer described it as "two pictures of Roemer, two gays embracing, a cover of the current Playboy and--between the gays and the Playmate--a cover of the Bible. Something bad about his values, I guess.") That amendment was overwhelmingly approved in the House, and the questions that Zakas would not say aloud at a press conference because of their "graphic sexual nature" had to pass both an ethics review board and a peer review board before they could be included in what were, after all, health surveys.

McCain '08!

Marged · 09-10-2008, 11:29 AM

I am absolutely incoherent with rage about this right now. I've tried to compose some thoughts and I just... can't.

MarchHare · 09-10-2008, 12:26 PM

Can someone please post a link to the actual ad?

Quaro · 09-10-2008, 12:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs

There's a possible counter where Obama could paint McCain as coddling pedophiles or something I guess.

extarbags · 09-10-2008, 12:36 PM

You know, that's just pathetic. I wish I could honestly say that I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to buy it, but I can't.

Funkula · 09-10-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dashingly

So that's what my favorite blogger was rambling about.

It occurred to me, while reading several entries from this blog aloud to my amused roommates, that this is the political blog equivalent of Full Life Consequences.

Lum · 09-10-2008, 12:56 PM

With this plus the "Lipstick on a pig" drama, the media is starting to come to the conclusion McCain's campaign shows that he is literally unsuited to hold office.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...s-integri.html
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/215224.php
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2..._accepted.html

You can draw one of two (or both!) conclusions here:

1) They're right
2) The media is turning on McCain with a vengeance

09-09-2008, 07:34 PM	#1
Matthew Gallant New Romantic Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 9,727	McCain's new low His latest ad takes Obama's vote for legislation to create programs that teach kindergarteners what to do if they are victims of a sexual predator and recasts it as a vote for "sex education" for five year-olds. In other words, Obama wants to show your baby pictures of erect penises and will greatly enjoy it. I really can't believe he's gone this far from the ideals of the service academies and the honor code. It doesn't only diminish him, it diminishes all academy grads.

09-09-2008, 07:45 PM	#3
extarbags World's End Supernova Join Date: May 2003 Location: Watchin' TV in the window of a furniture store. Gamertag: surplus bags Posts: 17,300	Looking forward to seeing the right-wingers' defense of this.

09-09-2008, 08:05 PM	#4
jerri blank Social Worker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 3,832	They won't even try to defend it - they're tickled pink. Remember - these are the people who trot Tundra Barbie out every day to repeat that lie about the Bridge to Nowhere. Do you think they give a flying fuck about the truth? This is how they win elections. Democrats bring a spork to a gunfight.

09-09-2008, 08:06 PM	#5
jfletch Social Worker Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,197	I don't get too many of these ads (New Jersey), but yea, I remember reading about ads like this from Republicans quite a bit in 2006. It worked quite well for them, if I remember.

09-09-2008, 08:55 PM	#6
dashingly Spinning Toe Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 507	So that's what my favorite blogger was rambling about.

09-09-2008, 09:07 PM	#7
MikeSofaer New Romantic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 5,715	So why no counter-ad? "John McCain wants your children to be defenseless against sexual predators"

09-09-2008, 09:14 PM	#10
jerri blank Social Worker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 3,832	I am assuming he's not for real.

09-09-2008, 09:43 PM	#14
Funkula Social Worker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Gamertag/SteamID: Funkula Posts: 4,515	My first thought was that it was a troll, but the evidence is slight. 1. He doesn't have any real tells. It would be hard to resist using some of the more amusing memes from this election (arugula and terrorist fist jabs come to mind) but he doesn't go for any of the guaranteed laugh lines. I think the most suspicious thing is his spelling of "christaininty" but I know there really are people who mash the keyboard with their hammy fingers and regard the idea of correcting typos with repugnance. 2. He's claiming to be from Garland. Anyone with little knowledge of the region would just say Dallas, anyone from outside the region but politically knowledgeable would pick Farmers Branch (because of the "renting to illegals" flap a couple years ago), and anyone from around here would probably pick Mesquite (although this category could maybe go for Garland). If he's faking, he's very good at avoiding the easy jokes. My bullshit detector is inclined toward The Real Deal.

09-10-2008, 04:13 AM	#19
bago New Romantic Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: smrt Posts: 7,781	Is thiss Psycheout with his whole BLoggers4Brownback bit?

09-10-2008, 04:40 AM	#21
Midnight Son How To Go Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dukov's place. Posts: 13,791	Hey Dems! It's time to stoop. The high road leads to Loserville.

09-10-2008, 06:20 AM	#22
Lorini New Romantic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pasadena, Ca Posts: 7,413	Do any of you believe that guy would vote for Obama anyway? C'mon.

09-10-2008, 09:47 AM	#23
John Many Jars Social Worker Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,719	Hey, Bristol Palin didn't need any sex education! Just a mother who cares about her.

09-10-2008, 11:29 AM	#25
Marged Social Worker Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,277	I am absolutely incoherent with rage about this right now. I've tried to compose some thoughts and I just... can't.

09-10-2008, 12:26 PM	#26
MarchHare Social Worker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 2,671	Can someone please post a link to the actual ad?

09-10-2008, 12:32 PM	#27
Quaro Social Worker Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,989	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs There's a possible counter where Obama could paint McCain as coddling pedophiles or something I guess.

09-10-2008, 12:36 PM	#28
extarbags World's End Supernova Join Date: May 2003 Location: Watchin' TV in the window of a furniture store. Gamertag: surplus bags Posts: 17,300	You know, that's just pathetic. I wish I could honestly say that I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to buy it, but I can't.

09-10-2008, 12:56 PM	#30
Lum New Romantic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Delirium, Texas Posts: 7,750	With this plus the "Lipstick on a pig" drama, the media is starting to come to the conclusion McCain's campaign shows that he is literally unsuited to hold office. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...s-integri.html http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/215224.php http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2..._accepted.html You can draw one of two (or both!) conclusions here: 1) They're right 2) The media is turning on McCain with a vengeance

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