BioShock

forgeforsaken · 02-10-2006, 10:47 AM

Apparently this is the cover story for the March issue of Game-Informer. Anyone read this yet, any details. I've been looking forward to it from what vague details there have been since it was announced.

Tom Ohle · 02-10-2006, 10:52 AM

Yep... I actually feel like going out and picking up the issue. Little reason to doubt the game will be fantastic. Levine, send me a build :)

Moore · 02-10-2006, 11:11 AM

that cover art is HOT SHIT.

Jason Cross · 02-10-2006, 11:51 AM

Yeah Levine, send Ohle a build! Wait no...send ME a build, what was I thinking?

Seriously though, I've enjoyed pretty much everything Irrational has done and I love the whole idea of BioShock, so I have my fingers crossed. I just hope that they've seriously stepped up the technology since the last Vengence engine game. I mean, you could tweak the Vengence engine a little and come out with a competitive game last year, but for a late 2006 or a 2007 release...let's just say that technology marches on big time, and they'll be competing for the spotlight with some pretty amazing looking games. I'd hate for people to just discount BioShock out of hand because it's not something they're familiar with and it doesn't look as pretty and "gee whiz" technologically cool as the other games of its time. Sort of like what happend with System Shock 2. :)

Tom Ohle · 02-10-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Cross

Sort of like what happend with System Shock 2. :)

So am I going to set myself up for death-by-forumgoers by admitting I've never played SS2? :( I've just never been able to find it in stores

Moore · 02-10-2006, 12:00 PM

Yar, I could care less engine-wise, I thought SS2 looked just fine at the time, but- it's a 360 title as well (I think?) and I hope it looks awesome and plays awesome and they make a boatload of cash off the starving graphics whores :D

Hawkeye Fierce · 02-10-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Ohle

So am I going to set myself up for death-by-forumgoers by admitting I've never played SS2? :( I've just never been able to find it in stores

It's a little hard to find nowadays, but there are copies up on half.com without the (utterly unnecessary) manual for not outrageous prices.

It's definitely worth hunting a little for.

chumpface · 02-10-2006, 12:45 PM

Jason, the rendering engine and lighting has been completely re-written. I should know, I paid for it! (well, until recently...)

slantz · 02-10-2006, 12:47 PM

Many people have complained about the aging graphics in SS2, but I have to say, I don't notice them at all while playing, and I think they're definitely 'good enough'.

It's also worth mentioning that there's supposedly a mod/conversion out there where a mod team replaced the models/textures with 'better' ones. I don't know anything about it beyond that.

Alan Au · 02-10-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro_Antagonist

It's also worth mentioning that there's supposedly a mod/conversion out there where a mod team replaced the models/textures with 'better' ones. I don't know anything about it beyond that.

http://www.quartertothree.com/game-t...ead.php?t=3861

- Alan

RepoMan · 02-10-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chumpface

(well, until recently...)

Are you not with Irrational anymore, or something horrible like that?

Alan Au · 02-10-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RepoMan

Are you not with Irrational anymore, or something horrible like that?

Irrational was recently purchased by Take2.

http://www.quartertothree.com/game-t...ad.php?t=24082

- Alan

Derek French · 02-10-2006, 01:03 PM

System Shock 2 Texture Upgrade Project

Its a must-have.

chumpface · 02-10-2006, 01:56 PM

I'm with IG, it's just that big daddy Take 2 pays the bills now!

Jab2565 · 02-10-2006, 06:51 PM

Just got GI today and saw it, Wow that is some fricken sweet cover art.
I'm just wondering how will they handle the non linear gameplay. Although that part about children sucking out chemcials of dead people sounds freaky.
That part about the art style, modern of the 30s, is that somewhat similar to how Stubbs the zombie future for the 50s was supposed to be?

forgeforsaken · 02-11-2006, 12:58 PM

Blargh, I stopped in Borders today to grab the Perl Cookbook and hopefully read GI while I was in the store, but they didn't have it! Bah.

KaoFloppy · 02-11-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Ohle

So am I going to set myself up for death-by-forumgoers by admitting I've never played SS2? :( I've just never been able to find it in stores

We forgive you, as long as you've played SS1. <squints eyes> You did play SS1, didn't you? Hmmmm? </squints eyes> <powers up laser rapier>

Jackstar · 02-12-2006, 05:15 AM

Hypothetical: if someone downloads System Shock 2, who are they stealing from?

Sam Jones · 02-12-2006, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jafd

Hypothetical: if someone downloads System Shock 2, who are they stealing from?

Electronic Arts, since they hold the IP. Is SS2 even available in stores anymore? I've got the original from when it was released, but it's getting old now, so I've ripped it into an ISO for safekeeping.

roguefrog · 02-12-2006, 11:13 AM

I managed to play SS2 a couple years ago when I snagged it off Ebay for $20 somthing. It came with the box and manual so it was pretty good deal.

SS1 is a different beast and old enough to create more series problems:

1) Hard to get working on modern OS's
2) Controls predate the standard aka their completely out of wack
3) Graffx are fugly

That game needs a re-make!

Backov · 02-12-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jafd

Hypothetical: if someone downloads System Shock 2, who are they stealing from?

No one. Copyright Infringement!=Theft.

Kevin McGuire · 02-12-2006, 12:09 PM

Just the thought that Bioshock is in development is exciting. Playing through F.E.A.R. reminds me of the "tell a story through old voice mails" that began with the original System Shock.

And speaking of Irrational - anyone know what ever happened to The Lost? IIRC it was supposed to be an early PS2 title, but it seemed to have gotten stuck in development hell (a bit ironic considering the game's setting).

roguefrog · 02-12-2006, 12:59 PM

Heard their was a dispute with Crave Entertainment. Whatever the cast The Lost seems to be lost.

Theodore Rex DX · 02-13-2006, 12:42 AM

There is an Ayn Rand quote, from Atlas Shrugged, featuring prominently in the GI article. I hope that's just standard Game Informer idiocy and not anything to do with the game.

Jackstar · 02-13-2006, 02:39 AM

If an Ayn Rand quote is their "standard" level of idiocy, that's a pretty generous comment. Considering that most gamers these days couldn't spell "Ayn" if you spotted them two vowels.

Theodore Rex DX · 02-13-2006, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jafd

If an Ayn Rand quote is their "standard" level of idiocy, that's a pretty generous comment. Considering that most gamers these days couldn't spell "Ayn" if you spotted them two vowels.

Ayn Rand is very dumb! And y is only sometimes a vowel! I'm not sure if it is a vowel there! Possibly!

EviLore · 02-13-2006, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jafd

If an Ayn Rand quote is their "standard" level of idiocy, that's a pretty generous comment. Considering that most gamers these days couldn't spell "Ayn" if you spotted them two vowels.

It's a Randite! RUN!

Btw, Bioshock looks incredible.

Shadari · 02-13-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jafd

If an Ayn Rand quote is their "standard" level of idiocy, that's a pretty generous comment. Considering that most gamers these days couldn't spell "Ayn" if you spotted them two vowels.

I wonder how many can pronounce her name....

Drastic · 02-13-2006, 01:31 PM

Look at you, slacker, a pathetic collectivist of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you steal my properties. How can you challenge a perfect moral egoist?

Enter that room, insect, and I will stop the engine of the world!

Backov · 02-13-2006, 01:48 PM

I met a Randite once, I think. Some girl I was talking to online and thinking of dating. If you dared to disagree that nothing but no-holds-barred, pure laissez faire capitalism was the way to go. If you thought ANY restrictions on the free market were necessary... You were evil.

It was pretty much like talking to a Christian whackjob, except way worse.

02-10-2006, 10:47 AM	#1
forgeforsaken New Romantic Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gamertag/PSN/Steam: forgeforsaken Posts: 7,280	BioShock Apparently this is the cover story for the March issue of Game-Informer. Anyone read this yet, any details. I've been looking forward to it from what vague details there have been since it was announced.

02-12-2006, 12:09 PM	#22
Kevin McGuire Broad Band Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 200	Just the thought that Bioshock is in development is exciting. Playing through F.E.A.R. reminds me of the "tell a story through old voice mails" that began with the original System Shock. And speaking of Irrational - anyone know what ever happened to The Lost? IIRC it was supposed to be an early PS2 title, but it seemed to have gotten stuck in development hell (a bit ironic considering the game's setting). Last edited by Kevin McGuire; 02-12-2006 at 12:12 PM.. Reason: edited to add a link to the web page

02-10-2006, 10:52 AM	#2
Tom Ohle Social Worker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 2,484	Yep... I actually feel like going out and picking up the issue. Little reason to doubt the game will be fantastic. Levine, send me a build :)

02-10-2006, 11:11 AM	#3
Moore New Romantic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S. Carolina Gamertag: fulci zombi Posts: 8,945	that cover art is HOT SHIT.

02-10-2006, 11:51 AM	#4
Jason Cross New Romantic Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gamertag: JasonC Cassiae/Elmindrea on WoW (Moonrunner/Alliance)......... Posts: 5,151	Yeah Levine, send Ohle a build! Wait no...send ME a build, what was I thinking? Seriously though, I've enjoyed pretty much everything Irrational has done and I love the whole idea of BioShock, so I have my fingers crossed. I just hope that they've seriously stepped up the technology since the last Vengence engine game. I mean, you could tweak the Vengence engine a little and come out with a competitive game last year, but for a late 2006 or a 2007 release...let's just say that technology marches on big time, and they'll be competing for the spotlight with some pretty amazing looking games. I'd hate for people to just discount BioShock out of hand because it's not something they're familiar with and it doesn't look as pretty and "gee whiz" technologically cool as the other games of its time. Sort of like what happend with System Shock 2. :)

02-10-2006, 12:00 PM	#6
Moore New Romantic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S. Carolina Gamertag: fulci zombi Posts: 8,945	Yar, I could care less engine-wise, I thought SS2 looked just fine at the time, but- it's a 360 title as well (I think?) and I hope it looks awesome and plays awesome and they make a boatload of cash off the starving graphics whores :D

02-10-2006, 12:45 PM	#8
chumpface Spinning Toe Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 672	Jason, the rendering engine and lighting has been completely re-written. I should know, I paid for it! (well, until recently...)

02-10-2006, 12:47 PM	#9
slantz Social Worker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,571	Many people have complained about the aging graphics in SS2, but I have to say, I don't notice them at all while playing, and I think they're definitely 'good enough'. It's also worth mentioning that there's supposedly a mod/conversion out there where a mod team replaced the models/textures with 'better' ones. I don't know anything about it beyond that.

02-10-2006, 01:03 PM	#13
Derek French Mad Chester Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,091	System Shock 2 Texture Upgrade Project Its a must-have.

02-10-2006, 01:56 PM	#14
chumpface Spinning Toe Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 672	I'm with IG, it's just that big daddy Take 2 pays the bills now!

02-10-2006, 06:51 PM	#15
Jab2565 New Romantic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,626	Just got GI today and saw it, Wow that is some fricken sweet cover art. I'm just wondering how will they handle the non linear gameplay. Although that part about children sucking out chemcials of dead people sounds freaky. That part about the art style, modern of the 30s, is that somewhat similar to how Stubbs the zombie future for the 50s was supposed to be?

02-11-2006, 12:58 PM	#16
forgeforsaken New Romantic Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gamertag/PSN/Steam: forgeforsaken Posts: 7,280	Blargh, I stopped in Borders today to grab the Perl Cookbook and hopefully read GI while I was in the store, but they didn't have it! Bah.

02-12-2006, 05:15 AM	#18
Jackstar formerly known as "jafd" Social Worker Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cloud 5 Posts: 2,880	Hypothetical: if someone downloads System Shock 2, who are they stealing from?

02-12-2006, 11:13 AM	#20
roguefrog Social Worker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 2,806	I managed to play SS2 a couple years ago when I snagged it off Ebay for $20 somthing. It came with the box and manual so it was pretty good deal. SS1 is a different beast and old enough to create more series problems: 1) Hard to get working on modern OS's 2) Controls predate the standard aka their completely out of wack 3) Graffx are fugly That game needs a re-make!

02-12-2006, 12:59 PM	#23
roguefrog Social Worker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 2,806	Heard their was a dispute with Crave Entertainment. Whatever the cast The Lost seems to be lost.

02-13-2006, 12:42 AM	#24
Theodore Rex DX Social Worker Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At the Crossroads Posts: 3,517	There is an Ayn Rand quote, from Atlas Shrugged, featuring prominently in the GI article. I hope that's just standard Game Informer idiocy and not anything to do with the game.

02-13-2006, 02:39 AM	#25
Jackstar formerly known as "jafd" Social Worker Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Cloud 5 Posts: 2,880	If an Ayn Rand quote is their "standard" level of idiocy, that's a pretty generous comment. Considering that most gamers these days couldn't spell "Ayn" if you spotted them two vowels.

02-13-2006, 01:31 PM	#29
Drastic Social Worker Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Live: Gar Drastic \| PSN & Steam: GarDrastic Posts: 4,601	Look at you, slacker, a pathetic collectivist of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you steal my properties. How can you challenge a perfect moral egoist? Enter that room, insect, and I will stop the engine of the world!

02-13-2006, 01:48 PM	#30
Backov Social Worker Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,952	I met a Randite once, I think. Some girl I was talking to online and thinking of dating. If you dared to disagree that nothing but no-holds-barred, pure laissez faire capitalism was the way to go. If you thought ANY restrictions on the free market were necessary... You were evil. It was pretty much like talking to a Christian whackjob, except way worse.

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