Fallout: New Vegas - Page 18

Roy Ziegler · 02-28-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ydejin

Wasn't Fallout 2 essentially the same engine as Fallout 1? Off-hand the only major improvement I can recall was the addition of a vehicle which you could use on the overland map. I don't even remember if it showed up in game.

and some minor ally NPC improvements

Demon G Sides · 02-28-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarkus

I don't think they've ever hidden the fact that it isn't a new game engine or even an enhanced one. But people who haven't been following FO:Vegas since it was announced are probably thinking that since it's been two years (or will be by the time the game comes out) that things will have changed.

Of course, that's what these previews are for as well, right?

Once again, to those of us who read previews and frequent gaming boards, yes, it's pretty obvious that this is not a sequel. Not every person who plays the Fallout games are as hardcore as us, and don't read gaming news sites. However when they see that there is a new Fallout game in the store one day, they're going to think "Oh lookie, a sequel."

I'm not saying that they're labeling it a sequel. They just need to make sure that they market it as though it's an expansion pack. That means TV promo ads that say "A spin-off of 2008's GOTY". I would hate for there to be backlash against the game because uninformed buyers thought it was something it wasn't.

Murbella · 02-28-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Demon G Sides

Once again, to those of us who read previews and frequent gaming boards, yes, it's pretty obvious that this is not a sequel. Not every person who plays the Fallout games are as hardcore as us, and don't read gaming news sites. However when they see that there is a new Fallout game in the store one day, they're going to think "Oh lookie, a sequel."

I'm not saying that they're labeling it a sequel. They just need to make sure that they market it as though it's an expansion pack. That means TV promo ads that say "A spin-off of 2008's GOTY". I would hate for there to be backlash against the game because uninformed buyers thought it was something it wasn't.

But if they have played more than one fallout game (including or not including non rpg spinoffs) they already know that the fallout games haven't been direct sequels in the past either...

Cory · 02-28-2010, 07:17 PM

I'll admit that even though I'm a big Fallout guy, I've been in a New Vegas blackout. That is why those screenshots surprised me. I had expected the game to be a bit more than a really big standalone expansion. Again, that isn't a bad thing, just not what I expected when I heard Obsidian was developing a new Fallout game.

Talisker · 02-28-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Murbella

It was shown in game in the sense that it showed up as an intractable object in the map you parked it at.

Correction: *half* of it shows up as an object on the map you parked it at, thus fucking up your save, and you have to start the entire goddamned game over again.

Murbella · 02-28-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Talisker

Correction: *half* of it shows up as an object on the map you parked it at, thus fucking up your save, and you have to start the entire goddamned game over again.

Fixed in patch!

My companion/pack mule/slave also disappeared in fallout 3 at one point. I was sad.

Talisker · 02-28-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Murbella

Fixed in patch!

You mean the patch that's not compatible with existing saves? (me? bitter? never!)

MrCoffee · 02-28-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Talisker

Correction: *half* of it shows up as an object on the map you parked it at, thus fucking up your save, and you have to start the entire goddamned game over again.

What do you mean it fucked your save? i usually found the other half of the car in some other city, generally in arroyo or the mutant fortress.

Zylon · 02-28-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Murbella

It was shown in game in the sense that it showed up as an intractable object in the map you parked it at.

I honestly can't tell if this is a typo, or you having a go at the car's bugginess.

Naeblis · 03-01-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cubit

I'll admit that even though I'm a big Fallout guy, I've been in a New Vegas blackout. That is why those screenshots surprised me. I had expected the game to be a bit more than a really big standalone expansion. Again, that isn't a bad thing, just not what I expected when I heard Obsidian was developing a new Fallout game.

It still can be an "Obsidian" game. Screenshots doesn't say anything about stuff like dialogues, quests complexity, reputation system, choices & consequences, combat frequency, humour, exploration, etc.

Paul_cze · 03-17-2010, 10:07 AM

I hate bethesda's PR policy.

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Eurogamer: New Vegas, then. What's your role in the team?

Chris Avellone: I can't say.

Eurogamer: Not your job title?

Chris Avellone: I can't say!

Eurogamer: Okay. But so, like, if I, for example, were making a game called Fallout: New Vegas, and I was using the Fallout 3 engine, and I had my own development studio, and I was just going around asking people for advice, what would you tell me?

Chris Avellone: I could not even speculate on that. I would be shot in the head.

Eurogamer: It was worth a try. Okay, so, how has working with Bethesda been - in general, I mean?

Chris Avellone: I probably can't speak about that either.

Although why won't he say what is his position is beyond me, since everyone knows he is senior designer on it.

Tim James · 03-17-2010, 10:15 AM

What a bizarre interview.

Zylon · 03-17-2010, 10:15 AM

So Chris believes that an RPG isn't an RPG unless it allows the player to make plot-related decisions. Hmm. That metric seems like it would narrow the field quite a bit.

Rock8man · 03-17-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul_cze

I hate bethesda's PR policy.

Although why won't he say what is his position is beyond me, since everyone knows he is senior designer on it.

Great interview! Thanks for the link!

(Well, except the part you quoted. That was kind of pointless).

Delta · 03-17-2010, 10:22 AM

I thought it was a fantastic interview. Not really because it revealed anything new (which it didn't), or even because it was massively interesting (which it wasn't, really), but because it was so laughably improbable it could have been taken from a spy film.

stusser · 03-17-2010, 10:24 AM

I doubt it has anything to do with Bethesda. That interview was orchestrated to promote Alpha Protocol, a game developed by Obsidian for Sega being released in 6 weeks. Sega PR probably asked him to keep on topic.

Paul_cze · 03-17-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock8man

(Well, except the part you quoted. That was kind of pointless).

That was kind of the point! :)

SolomonGrundy · 03-17-2010, 10:55 AM

I've always been amused by the secrecy of the game industry.

Sarkus · 03-17-2010, 11:11 AM

Avellone is also known for having a sense of humor, so it could have also been meant to be a funny way for him to basically tell them he's not authorized to talk about New Vegas at that point.

Grifman · 03-17-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stusser

I doubt it has anything to do with Bethesda. That interview was orchestrated to promote Alpha Protocol, a game developed by Obsidian for Sega being released in 6 weeks. Sega PR probably asked him to keep on topic.

That wouldn't appear to be true since the first two pages he talks mainly about past Fallout games and doesn't talk about AP until the 3rd page. If it was to be about AP I think we would have seen the interview go straight there from the beginning.

Paul_cze · 03-17-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Grifman

That wouldn't appear to be true since the first two pages he talks mainly about past Fallout games and doesn't talk about AP until the 3rd page. If it was to be about AP I think we would have seen the interview go straight there from the beginning.

Yeah. Plus it wouldn't make sense anyway. What does make sense is that Bethesda has its own PR plans and does not want anyone to talk about anything until those plans are in motion. Like it was with all their previous games.

pilonv1 · 03-17-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Grifman

That wouldn't appear to be true since the first two pages he talks mainly about past Fallout games and doesn't talk about AP until the 3rd page. If it was to be about AP I think we would have seen the interview go straight there from the beginning.

He may have been able to talk about old Fallout games but not New Vegas. Which makes sense since AP is out before and would obviously be more of a priority currently.

Paul_cze · 04-22-2010, 09:13 AM

Very cool:

Cory · 04-22-2010, 09:16 AM

That is cool art, but it isn't a screenshot.

MrCoffee · 04-22-2010, 09:19 AM

It looks a lot like like borderland.

nKoan · 04-22-2010, 09:28 AM

Ooh, a picture of a promo t-shirt leaked out too. I kinda want one.

http://twitpic.com/1hgb4z

ChrisPal · 04-22-2010, 01:06 PM

I googled some other recent screenshots, and some of them look pretty cool. The t-shirt is nice.

Sarkus · 04-23-2010, 11:58 AM

Somebody linked to this on another board - pretty impressive use of the Fallout 3 engine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTfF...ayer_embedded#!

Rock8man · 04-23-2010, 12:07 PM

That was really great. Thanks for that link. And I knew all those places!!! I recognized every single place. Not surprising after spending 120+ hours in the Capital Wasteland.

Paul_cze · 04-23-2010, 12:25 PM

Does it spoil anything? I am just in the middle of a playthrough (50 hours in, still haven't touched main storyline).

02-28-2010, 07:17 PM	#514
Cory New Romantic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lafayette, IN ---> XBL: Cubit33 --------------> PSN: Cubit85 --------------> Posts: 9,022	I'll admit that even though I'm a big Fallout guy, I've been in a New Vegas blackout. That is why those screenshots surprised me. I had expected the game to be a bit more than a really big standalone expansion. Again, that isn't a bad thing, just not what I expected when I heard Obsidian was developing a new Fallout game. Last edited by Cory; 02-28-2010 at 07:31 PM..

03-17-2010, 10:22 AM	#525
Delta Hustle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bath, England Posts: 344	I thought it was a fantastic interview. Not really because it revealed anything new (which it didn't), or even because it was massively interesting (which it wasn't, really), but because it was so laughably improbable it could have been taken from a spy film. Last edited by Delta; 04-22-2010 at 09:26 AM..

03-17-2010, 10:15 AM	#522
Tim James New Romantic Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,544	What a bizarre interview.

03-17-2010, 10:15 AM	#523
Zylon New Romantic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Merriam, KS Posts: 6,467	So Chris believes that an RPG isn't an RPG unless it allows the player to make plot-related decisions. Hmm. That metric seems like it would narrow the field quite a bit.

03-17-2010, 10:24 AM	#526
stusser New Romantic Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,672	I doubt it has anything to do with Bethesda. That interview was orchestrated to promote Alpha Protocol, a game developed by Obsidian for Sega being released in 6 weeks. Sega PR probably asked him to keep on topic.

03-17-2010, 10:55 AM	#528
SolomonGrundy Social Worker Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: out of body Posts: 2,850	I've always been amused by the secrecy of the game industry.

03-17-2010, 11:11 AM	#529
Sarkus How To Go Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 10,226	Avellone is also known for having a sense of humor, so it could have also been meant to be a funny way for him to basically tell them he's not authorized to talk about New Vegas at that point.

04-22-2010, 09:13 AM	#533
Paul_cze Neo Acoustic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Teplice, Czech Republic Posts: 1,839	Very cool:

04-22-2010, 09:16 AM	#534
Cory New Romantic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lafayette, IN ---> XBL: Cubit33 --------------> PSN: Cubit85 --------------> Posts: 9,022	That is cool art, but it isn't a screenshot.

04-22-2010, 09:19 AM	#535
MrCoffee Spinning Toe Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina Posts: 746	It looks a lot like like borderland.

04-22-2010, 09:28 AM	#536
nKoan Neo Acoustic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,619	Ooh, a picture of a promo t-shirt leaked out too. I kinda want one. http://twitpic.com/1hgb4z

04-22-2010, 01:06 PM	#537
ChrisPal Broad Band Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York, USA Posts: 264	I googled some other recent screenshots, and some of them look pretty cool. The t-shirt is nice.

04-23-2010, 11:58 AM	#538
Sarkus How To Go Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 10,226	Somebody linked to this on another board - pretty impressive use of the Fallout 3 engine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTfF...ayer_embedded#!

04-23-2010, 12:07 PM	#539
Rock8man How To Go Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO, Gamertag: Rock8mnky, PSN: Rock8man Posts: 11,083	That was really great. Thanks for that link. And I knew all those places!!! I recognized every single place. Not surprising after spending 120+ hours in the Capital Wasteland.

04-23-2010, 12:25 PM	#540
Paul_cze Neo Acoustic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Teplice, Czech Republic Posts: 1,839	Does it spoil anything? I am just in the middle of a playthrough (50 hours in, still haven't touched main storyline).

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