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Thread: Kerry: "[I'm] Reckless and Irresponsible."

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    Kerry: "[I'm] Reckless and Irresponsible."

    In an interview several weeks before he voted against $87 billion in funding for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., seemed to argue that such a vote would be reckless, irresponsible, and tantamount to abandoning U.S. troops.

    On the Sept. 14, 2003, edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Kerry spoke at length about an amendment he and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., were offering which would have paid for the $87 billion by delaying some of the recent tax cuts.

    Asked if he would vote against the $87 billion if his amendment did not pass, Kerry said, "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible."

    Kerry argued that his amendment offered a way to do it properly, "but I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."

    Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said her boss' vote against the funding was a "protest vote."

    At the time of the October 2003 vote, "The nation had four months before funds were needed but Republicans were hell-bent on moving this bill through as quickly as possible, before the tough questions could be asked and the president's failures would be discovered," Cutter said.

    Cutter went on to say the Bush White House had threatened to veto the entire $87 billion supplemental bill if the Kerry-Biden amendment had passed.

    Political observers wondered, however, how effective Kerry's explanation would be.

    "John Kerry has years and years of public statements — including recent ones — that the Republicans seem to have more thoroughly catalogued and at-the-ready than the Kerry campaign does," observed ABC News political director Mark Halperin.

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/P...ry_040319.html

    ^^^^ Source for the whiners!

    So.. voting against the troops would be reckless and irresponsible. Yet, he does it. THWAK-THWAK <- the sound of a flip-flop! I guess it's not reckless if it's a "protest" vote. Guess he should have learned if you protest the war you vote against IT not the safety of our troops.

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    Jesus, you are one stupid fuck and you really deserve no response but that. You are the fucking political genie. Everything has to be spelled out, noted and explained again and again.

    "But bush never said they would find weapons of mass destruction...




    to me!!!"

    Chet

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    Wow, you managed a post that was absurdly insulting and completely nonsensical all at the same time. Have you ever typed a response that posed a counter argument or does it always boil down to "You're fucking stupid!" with you? It takes effort and brainpower to debate intelligently. What assumptions should I make about Chet?

    Congrats! I hope I can see more big words out of you. Like maybe three "fucks" in your next enlightning post.

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    Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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    Bob, even my obvious posts go over your head. Just curious, are you still looking for the tip of your nose your daddy stole from you when you were 3?

    Chet

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    The story here isn't Kerry's vote it's a political story about how well Kerry handled the riposte. And he didn't. That's the story.

    Senators do this all the time. They'll vote against something that will pass, or fail, with or without their vote in order to make a point about some aspect of the bill. In this case it was the lack of transperancy of the Bush administration and to point out how much was being paid off to the wealthy (re: GOP campaign contributors) as opposed to being spent on equipping our armed forces. Getting them to foot the bill a bit rather than plunging us deeper in debt over a terribly mismanaged occupation was Kerry, among others, point at the time. You'll find Senators of both parties, and often, making protest votes for both ideological and political reasons.

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    I think we need another forum just for Bob, Midnight Son, Anax and Koontz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Wilson
    I think we need another forum just for Bob, Midnight Son, Anax and Koontz.
    Awww... are you a bit bitter that I called your homeland a shithole and you were unable to respond to my accusations? That's a shame. Maybe you should try improving it rather than saying it's A-OK the way it is.

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    Man, don't lump me in with them nuts!

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