What's your budget?
Dell's U2412m might be a good option if you can afford it.
Under $350, and I just saw this over on newegg, which claims to have better response time than that Dell: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236287, although the Dell seems to be available through Costco for slightly more, and I'm a member, and I like their return policy: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=#BVRRWidgetIDOriginally Posted by gmonkey
That ASUS is a better choice than the Dell as far as color reproduction is concerned. If you can afford it, go for it.
Just don't forget the Korean 27'' option.
I think I'm going to go for that ASUS--it's got all my wishes: 24 in, LED backlit, and 1920 x 1200, plus IPS to boot. Oh, and on top of all that, it pivots to portrait mode and has a bunch of USB 3 ports.
EDIT: Aaand...ordered. Hell, my current monitor doesn't even have height adjustment, so this new one is going to leave it in the dust, and cost me 10 bucks less than I paid for the other one 4 years back.
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My trusty Dell 2407 has a smooshed bug under the screen (and a broken power button) so I'm going to spring for a 27" IPS replacement. Money isn't a huge concern for me, and I have a new baby + upcoming relocation coming so I don't want to roll the dice on the Korean greymarket - I just want a solid monitor that isn't going to require a return.
I was thinking about the Dell 2711, but I hear the anti-glare coding is poor. It's too bad, since I *really* like my 2407 (non-glossy screen - I can't see a single reflection in this thing, even though it's 5 feet away from a window). I was thinking about getting an Apple Cinema Display, but I spent some time in the Apple Store with them and while they look great there's basically a constant reflection of my face which I think would get irritating really quick.
So, a couple of questions for people with glossy screens: do you eventually get used to the glossy screens, or are they always annoyingly reflective (maybe they aren't in reality as glare-y as they are in the brightly lit apple store)? Failing that, anyone have a non-glossy 27" IPS display they want to recommend? I think I'll mostly be viewing text on it, with fairly light gaming, although if it has an HDMI input I might use it for a console display.
Anecdata, but they bought everyone in my office great big Dells with glass shiny screens. Everyone with a window in their office has gone back to their 5-year-old TN panel screens.
Yeah, I just don't understand why anyone buys non-matte screens. I wish they'd stop so the manufacturers would stop making them--it's annoying.
Non-matte produces better color. My 52" TV is that way too, and it's makes a noticable difference from its matte version. (That being said, I knew I had to control light to use it).
You can't see the colors if they're obscured by reflections.
I had a glossy screen on the Vostro laptop I bought a some 5 or 6 years ago. I thought I would get used to it, but the glossy screen continued to annoy me right up to the day it died. After a year of using it I swore I'd never by a TV, monitor, or laptop with a glossy screen again. Unfortunately it's somewhat annoying to shop for any of those things because the majority of them, particularly in the consumer laptop space, seem to have the glossy screens.
But they look cool and shinny! what have you got against progress apple hater! Besides how else can we burn the skin of our indentured slaves in the far east without the chemical cleaners used to clean all those glossy screens ;)
Hardcore gamers live in caves.
I will say I don't mind the glossy (glass) screen on my iPod Touch 3rd gen--for one thing it's easy to angle so you don't get reflections), but if you're not going to use glass (as in almost all desktop/laptop monitors) you might as well go matte.
Yeah, I bought a glossy monitor to replace my Dell a couple years ago because oooh it was so shiny. The color was nice and bright, but I got tired of the glare pretty quickly. Have to close blinds and turn off lights; can't play any games for half the day on the weekends while my window gets sunlight. It's annoying. Definitely going matte for my next monitor.
ok this is a very newbie question. I got non-shiney (non-sparkling) on both a laptop and my main PC's display. Does that mean they are matte?
Is some of the remarks i see about matte screens 'sparkling' to do with a new way of doing matte (my screens are both over 2 years old). I don't want one of the new sparkling matte displays (sounds like it is a spray on chemical over a glossy display perhaps?), i prefer the old non sparkling type that are kind of squishy under your finger when you press the screen. That kind of matte (if that is what they are) is the bees knees for any screen imho.
The "sparkling" is an anti-glare coating that some manufacturers use on matte screens and some don't. And even with the ones that do, the level of sparkly-ness varies. A good reviewer will mention it. It's a pain because it can really dull colors and make the screen look dirty if your ambient light isn't "right."
thanks Two Sheds. Is this a 'new' thing though? I don't remember an issue of sparkling screens a few years back, or i just got lucky and picked a couple of great matte screens, and missed that whole issue being discussed at the time.
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I'll be looking for a good matte IPS, and not a sparkly one (so it might have to be old).
Oops, I think I have to walk back my previous answer. I misunderstood. It looks like any matte IPS screen is going to have an anti-glare coating. I guess it's just an IPS thing. The coatings do seem to vary between manufacturers, though. I've read the Asus monitors like the one Papageno bought upthread shouldn't be noticeably sparkly--maybe he can come back and give us a verdict when its up and running?
So yeah, it looks like a matte IPS screen without an anti-glare coating doesn't exist, but you should be able to find one with a less-sparkly coating. And it might not even bother you in person, to be honest. If you have IPS screens now and don't notice the coating, then I guess that's a good thing. Maybe take a look at some IPS monitors at Best Buy and see if you notice?
And that is the annoyance isn't it, you may have to find a place that has them on display, probably not that common? But yeah i'll pay very close attention to the reviews on any IPS screen to ensure i avoid the issue (the point of getting an IPS screen being to get proper colour representation vs a TFT, which i use currently). Thanks for the tips :)
So I received that Asus monitor yesterday and set it up. No weird-looking coating, just a nice matte screen. VERY bright at 50% brightness, I had to turn it down. No dead or stuck pixels--a little "spotlighting" from the left corners which per a review on newegg should go away in a few days, we'll see (only noticeable with a black or very dark background)--everything looked fine.
Then a weird thing happened.
The monitor started to dim for no reason that I could tell, it made a weird noise, then came back to its previous brightness, and--get this--there was a puff of smoke from the top part of the monitor. It didn't have that horrible "burning electronics" smell and it was just the one puff, but then everything seemed fine again last night and this morning. Still highly disconcerting--I feel like I should RMA it just due to that, although it would be a "TFPITA" to do so.
What do you all think? Should I wait till it malfunctions in some way? Because if I send it back to newegg now they'll charge me a restocking fee, and the monitor has a 3 year warranty anyway from ASUS.
I don't generally keep electronics that smoke and fuck up plugged in within my home for any significant amount of time, just saying.
My first inclination is to say just RMA that thing, but I know if it were me I'd just wait and see. Especially with a 3-year warranty.
It is a pretty big fly in the ointment, isn't it?
I'm not trying to exaggerate things here, Papageno, but yes. Horsefly at least, if not Jeff Goldblum-class.
RMA it. If newegg tries to charge a restocking fee or refuses to cross-ship, complain about them on resellerratings.com and they will do literally whatever it takes to make you take the complaint down.
So will I have to get on the horn with newegg first or should I just do the online RMA and put something to that effect in the comments, like "I think cross-shipping and no restocking fee are in order here since it happened within a few minutes of having it plugged in. I may have to express dissatisfaction on resellerratings.com if you don't do this."?
Yes, immediately launching into threats is the best way to obtain excellent customer support. :/
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Do any of you calibrate a new monitor per what's recommended in tftcentral?
Sorry, I didn't see your post. In my experience, newegg customer support sucks and they will almost certainly deny the cross-ship. When they do, then you post on resellerratings and wait for the call from the nice lady the next business day.
I'd pull a chargeback.
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