05-14-2013, 10:41 PM
Derek Rose is a pussy and his legacy is tarnished.
05-14-2013, 10:47 PM
We'll go ahead and let him know how you feel. I'm sure he's devastated.
05-14-2013, 10:57 PM
I'm sure that when you were medically cleared to play, that there was no danger of long-term damage whatsoever, right?
Originally Posted by olaf
05-15-2013, 09:42 PM
His injury sucked but its not uncommon. It happens to athletes (and regular people too), in the NBA, and other sports. Its been over a year, he is healed and capable of practicing. Why isnt he playing? Its his job to play basketball. His team was in the playoffs, in the 2nd round, and they needed him, and he let them down. This will absolutely tarnish his legacy.
05-15-2013, 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by olaf
I like Rose, but he doesn't really have much of a legacy to tarnish. It's not his fault, he's only been in the league four yhears. He hasn't even been to the NBA Finals. Before his injury, he was a great point guard and an elite athlete, but he wasn't even the best point guard of his generation. Chris Paul is better by a significant margin - Paul is a much better shooter and much better on defense (Paul averages two more steals per game than Rose).
Rose is a one time MVP with the potential to become truly special and an all time 50 great - but that won't happen until a) he wins a championship or b) he becomes a better shooter and spends as much effort on defense as he does on offense.
He's not playing because he doesn't think he's ready for a game. What's the other likely explanation? That he's a pussy? That someone is paying him not to play?
No one in professional basketball runs a practice at playoff level game speed. Not if you want to prevent injury. The fact that he can scrimmage against Nate Robinson is absolutely irrelevant. You really think that Boozer and Noah are giving Rose the same hard fouls in practice that they have given to the Heat?
The Bulls weren't beating Miami even with a rock solid Rose as long as they were missing Deng and Hinrich. I don't like Miami and will take zero pleasure from seeing them win another title, but Chicago needed all of its offensive weapons for this series and that means having Rose and Deng.
05-16-2013, 07:07 AM
Rose just announced that he's ready to play and will suit up for the next game.
05-16-2013, 07:26 AM
Clearly he was wounded by being called names in this thread.
05-17-2013, 02:33 AM
I really really want the Grizzlies to make it to the finals now. A series against the Spurs is going to be tough going though.
05-17-2013, 11:15 AM
I'd like Grizzlies-Pacers just to see David Stern's head explode.
05-17-2013, 11:41 AM
And just to follow up on the Sacramento Kings story, looks like the sale has been finalized to Vivek Ranadive's group, keeping the team in Sacramento. As a Seattleite and fan of the Sonics, I will repeat that this is good news, and good for the Kings fans. I would love to get the Sonics back here, but having gone through the losses of teams twice (I was living in Charlotte when the Hornets went to N.O.) I don't want to steal the team from another city. If expansion happens, we should get a team. In the meantime, I'll just watch games for the sport of it.
05-17-2013, 12:12 PM
The peal of cowbells rings out over the entire state. ;-)
Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone
05-17-2013, 12:15 PM
The Griz are a pretty good team, and the Spurs have not been the best of playoffs teams the last few years, so that side seems at least a possibility. I just have not seen enough of the Pacers this year to get any kind of feel for them having a shot at the Heat.
Originally Posted by prolix
But it would be fun to see Stern head's explode (in a cartoon way, though I'd settle for metaphorical).
05-17-2013, 10:43 PM
With Hill almost certainly out for games 6 and 7, I dont know that the Pacers will beat the Knicks even though it seemed like a given prior to game 5. I hate the Knicks, and it really does not matter either way, I think the Heat will crush either team.
Spurs-Grizz...Grizzlies beat the Spurs two years ago in the playoffs, but since then the Spurs have retooled and I think they will beat the Grizzlies in 6 or less. Worst case I see a split in the first 4 games and then I like the Spurs to take a best of 3 having home court. But shit I dont know, Spurs cruised past a Lakers team w/o Kobe and then had a lot of trouble in the first two games with a hobbled Warriors squad. On the other side, Grizz have been the underdog in two series so far and have come out on top. And their coach has a contract that will expire after this year and prior to the playoffs, it was pretty much a given that they were going to go in another direction.
So Spurs-Heat, is what I see in the finals. I dont see any scenario, barring an injury to one of the Heat's big 3, where the Spurs beat the Heat. That said, Spurs coach G Pop is, to me, the best NBA coach in the current era outside of Phil Jackson. So I think it will be a competitive series, but I just dont see the Heat losing.
05-18-2013, 04:54 PM
So happy the Kings the staying and the Maloofs are finally gone for good. Now they can go and try to ruin an NHL club. The Kings can start a real rebuild once and for all instead of flopping around like a fish out of water with no direction.
Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone
05-18-2013, 05:10 PM
Given how terribly they've responded to pressure, particularly JR Smith, I suspect tonight will be NYK's last game. Here's hoping they get their act together and Woodson lets the small ball that got them here sink or swim.
05-19-2013, 12:07 AM
It was a good game, but they appeared to run out of gas at the very end.
Originally Posted by mono
05-19-2013, 04:48 AM
Yeah, the Knicks looked outmanned for the first half, but that third quarter was pretty entertaining. But I agree that they seemed to expend all their energy in the third, and had very little left in the fourth.
I suppose the Heat will beat the Pacers, but I'm not sure who will win the Western Conference final - the Grizz are definitely one tough team, but SA is like that well-oiled machine that always does what it should. I didn't watch them much all year, but man, they are so smooth and predictable in their excellence that it's hard to bet against them.
05-19-2013, 09:38 PM
Spurs crushed the fuck out of them in game one.
05-20-2013, 09:35 AM
The big advantage the Spurs have is they have been to the top before, and it's all new to the Griz as the intensity just keeps climbing. But if you come back and win game two on the other guy's court the first game is forgotten real fast. The real test is can they adapt and come back. Tougher to do against coach of the quality of Pop rather than a Vinnie del Negro.