Reply With QuoteROI. Basically, a to-be-dead platform with WinPhone7's numbers...Originally Posted by LMN8R
To see this in action, observe Palm Pre app market trends following the discontinuation of the line.
ROI. Basically, a to-be-dead platform with WinPhone7's numbers...
Wait -- the only Steve in his post was Woz, so I assumed that's whom he was referring to. If not, then that would be a double foul.
A double foul it was, then. Steve is dead, long live Steve. I shan't repeat my nerdrage-fostering error.
Someone reacts badly to Windows Phone 8 on the Lumia.
Nokia announced their two new Windows 8 phones and saw their share price drop 13%.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj
I don't think it's controversial to say that Microsoft and Nokia are going to have a tough time in the phone market. Regardless of your feelings on the phone OS and how well it does or doesn't do what it's supposed to, the fact is that people just don't seem to be jumping on their products. The last stat I saw was something like 3% of the mobile market has Windows Phone 7. That's an uphill battle for sure.
That Nokia 920 may very well be my next phone (replacing iPhone 3gs). It depends on when it will be available in Canada.
I have no interest in another iPhone and none of the Android phones appeal to me.
Bummer. I was really hoping that the sensor from the 808 would have been brought over, but I know I'm a minority for that level of photographic capability. Lossless zoom would have been soo nice. Their focus on low-light, while it makes sense, has terrible examples.
In Nokia's defense, at least their new phones aren't obviously stupid and obsolete at launch. The 920 is basically identical, from a hardware perspective, to the One X and GS3, with the same Snapdragon S4 processor and similar 720p-ish large-ish screen. And while Windows Phone 7 was on the chopping block even as Nokia put their phone out there, WP8 (and its APIs) are supposedly in it for the long haul.
This is the first Windows Phone that's even conceivably worth buying. The question remains whether even Microsoft can effectively launch a new OS from scratch at the end of 2012. I'm skeptical, but not willing to rule it out entirely.
I was hoping to see some announced products using the cortex A15 already. Anyway, the hardware is fine. The stock dropped because they didn't give a release date.
The hotness of the hardware and the general usability of WP8, along with the lack of exciting leaks on the iPhone 5, have me tempted to jump ship from iOS next upgrade.
The iPhone 5's taller screen does nothing for me -- it's width that matters in my everyday usage. The height only benefits video, and generally if I'm in a situation where I'm watching video on a mobile device (on an airplane, usually), I have my tablet. Add a connector that means none of my current Dock Connector devices/cables are going to plug right in anyway, and nothing else exciting rumored (LTE? Nice, but yawn...) and this looks like the first iPhone upgrade cycle I'll skip since I got my original 3GS.
Assuming I can get a full offline GPS app for it from a third party, I can adapt to the newer smaller app ecosystem. I have dozens of apps and games on my iPhone that I never use. I'd miss Uniwar, Disc Drivin', and Hero Academy, but I can play those on my iPad when I get home.
So, gonna be an interesting decision to make later this year... That 920 looks sweet. I keep hoping the iPhone 5 leaks we've seen so far are all part of a brilliant master plan by Apple to leak fake components so as to protect the real surprise of their awesome, groundbreaking new design.
I have no faith in MS to execute.
... Twitter, Facebook, web browsers, Tapatalk, G+, messaging, and basically any other app that presents you with vertically scrolling text or lists. But who uses apps like that.
I'm already finding the latest Android ICS and JB devices to be more than on par w/ the iPhone, so at this point they're all commodity devices. The platform doesn't matter, it's the implementation and availability of the apps.
There are too many apps either unavailable on Windows Phone, or implemented poorly. It may improve over time, but I don't see why I'd jump in anticipating things might get better. MS seems to lack the ability to excite anyone's imagination.
I've watched quite a few of our ITS folk at work go through iphones, various android phones, and end up with windows 7 phones, which they all seem to love.
Never got into the nitty gritty with any of them to see how they got there though
I like the look of the OS and the hardware a lot better than the Android smartphones out there, and I know people with Windows Phones who really like them, but it is really hard to switch once you're locked in with Apple. My iPhone is sort of like my digital archive. I've got text message threads going back to 2007 on it. Invested quite a bit in apps. And it's got seamless integration with my MacBook Pro, from iTunes to iCloud.
Is there really no way to export all that stuff (text messages, etc.) on iOS, even through a third-party app? Though I guess Apple wouldn't want to approve any apps that make it easier to leave their ecosystem...
There are various apps for that, yes. You can also grab the file from your backup as a SQLite database and get at the data yourself.
I see, good to know. I thought it was a bit absurd.
Why would you need more VERTICAL space for that? I read one line at a time. More horizontal space would benefit all of those for me. Vertical? I've never desired to see more of the text I've already read, or that I will soon read...
Then turn your phone sideways, and you have enormous amounts of horizontal space.
But why do you need horizontal space? I mean, a tweet that is split across two lines isn't harder to read than one that's on a single line, not really. If you don't care about how much of an article, or how many updates, are shown on the screen, then why do you care at all?
I don't see why you need whole lines. You only read a word at a time.
Regardless of how cool these devices are Windows phone goes nowhere untill they get real support from the major carriers. Simply carrying a phone or two doesn't cut it.
The Samsung Ativ S is a far more attractive looking phone than the S3, in pictures anyway.
If the Nokia continues the build quality and *feel* of their WP7 phones, and has a fantastic camera - I can see it being popular as long as it's actually easily available and not priced close to the Iphone 5.
You don't navigate one line at a time, though, which is one thing I can see the height helping with -- and we do it a lot. Newsfeeds, email indexes, contact lists, home pages of news sites / forums, etc. come to mind.
I'm dubious about content consumption too, once you've chosen what to read. I'll reserve judgement for now though.
Yeah, I don't mind extra vertical room. But I'd want a horizontal size increase as well. When you zoom in a column in a web article, extra horizontal room would let you make the column of text bigger. With extra vertical room, you'd have to flip the phone into landscape mode to get any benefit for that kind of reading, and at that point you'd have a wide but very short window onto your text.
Ah well... If this week's iPhone announcement doesn't have a "One More Thing," I'm probably just going to hang on to my iPhone 4S for another year until the contract ends and then in 2013 I'll be able to look at the Windows Phone 8 software library and make the call then about hardware, OS, and carrier all at once.
Want some color in your smartphones Windows Phone is the way to go, HTC Windows Phones are as colorful as the Lumias
Verizon sold more iPhones to Americans than Nokia sold Windows Phones to the world.
The Nokia 920 (32GB) is only $150 with a contract. Very impressive pricing. Half the cost of the same capacity iPhone 5, and $50 less than the cheapest one (16 GB).
Thurrott has the story here:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...pricing-144577
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