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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyA View Post
    Yeah, but e-ink is what you want for reading books. e-Ink Kindles will probably be $49 (sponsored) next time around
    Depends - if it's colour? I'd expect $100.

    And er, you load maps by country typically for GPS systems...they're NOT that big.

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    Yeah, tomtom stores maps for all of the US in around 1.4GB. This includes lots of POIs also, but obviously not 3D overlays, street view, public transportation, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stusser View Post
    Yeah, tomtom stores maps for all of the US in around 1.4GB. This includes lots of POIs also, but obviously not 3D overlays, street view, public transportation, etc.
    Yes, and Google did just announce offline mode for Maps the week before WWDC, so I'd imagine that maps for most of the country are pre-loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mono View Post
    Yes, and Google did just announce offline mode for Maps the week before WWDC, so I'd imagine that maps for most of the country are pre-loaded.
    They're not pre-loaded, you can choose what to cache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkozlows View Post
    They're not pre-loaded, you can choose what to cache.
    Too bad. Who pre-plans GPS caching? There goes the GPS utility.

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    I'm impressed. This is how you introduce and demo a tablet. Not like uh, Surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mono View Post
    Too bad. Who pre-plans GPS caching? There goes the GPS utility.
    People traveling to a particular place.

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    On iOS, Navigon app lets you load only the states/provinces you need so I can see the functionality.

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    Right, but unless they've made radical changes, you can't just store "put Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho on my Android device." It only caches your pre-planned route.

    My Garmin app on my iPhone takes <2GB with maps of the entire US. Navigon with just the states I'm likely to drive in is <500MB. It's stupid not to offer the option of offline maps if the user wants the security of knowing they're always there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stusser View Post
    Yeah, tomtom stores maps for all of the US in around 1.4GB.
    Well point, I tend to think of EU countries :)
    It's about 250MB for the full UK data on my Father's TomTom...

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    Hmm, so it only stores the route? Ouch.

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    A big city is like 2MB in Google maps. I think their format is more economic.
    edit: a medium city is 5Mb, I was wrong :/
    Last edited by TurinTur; 06-28-2012 at 02:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyA View Post
    Right, but unless they've made radical changes, you can't just store "put Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho on my Android device." It only caches your pre-planned route.
    In the latest Google Maps you can specifically choose any area (by panning and zooming) you want to cache for offline, although there seems to be a size limit of about 60km x 60km for a single area. I'm not sure if there's a limit for the number of areas you can cache at once or if it's just limited by your storage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyA View Post
    Right, but unless they've made radical changes, you can't just store "put Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho on my Android device." It only caches your pre-planned route.
    They've changed it. You can, while viewing the map, click "Make Offline," and then pan and zoom for an area. There's a limit to how big you can make it, though -- I can include Detroit metro, Windsor, and Ann Arbor, but I can't also include Toledo and Flint, for instance. It said it would take 77MB for that size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyA View Post
    Right, but unless they've made radical changes, you can't just store "put Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho on my Android device." It only caches your pre-planned route.
    Bleh. Guess I'll keep using the app I use with Freemaps data then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkozlows View Post
    They've changed it. You can, while viewing the map, click "Make Offline," and then pan and zoom for an area. There's a limit to how big you can make it, though -- I can include Detroit metro, Windsor, and Ann Arbor, but I can't also include Toledo and Flint, for instance. It said it would take 77MB for that size.
    So, different, but equally useless for the users who'd like to just download the dang maps and not have to ever worry about it again.

    Then again, I have to assume Garmin/TomTom/Navigon/someboy has a decent add-on GPS app for Android, right? So that, combined with the built-in GPS receiver, would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyA View Post
    So, different, but equally useless for the users who'd like to just download the dang maps and not have to ever worry about it again.

    Then again, I have to assume Garmin/TomTom/Navigon/someboy has a decent add-on GPS app for Android, right? So that, combined with the built-in GPS receiver, would work.
    Well, not useless. You can download your home city, pre-download for trips, or download when you have wifi for unexpected travel. It's a way around having cellular data, not a full replacement for a dedicated GPS unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houngan View Post
    Well, not useless. You can download your home city, pre-download for trips, or download when you have wifi for unexpected travel. It's a way around having cellular data, not a full replacement for a dedicated GPS unit.
    I didn't say useless. I said "So, different, but equally useless for the users who'd like to just download the dang maps and not have to ever worry about it again."

    :)

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    Fair enough, play on!

    I do hope it lets you specify an aging for map storage. I want my Louisville map to be permanent but other maps can go away after a few months.

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    Dumb question, but will there not be an Amazon Prime and/or Instant Video streaming app for the Nexus tablet? Is there an iOS app for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freezer-TPF- View Post
    Dumb question, but will there not be an Amazon Prime and/or Instant Video streaming app for the Nexus tablet? Is there an iOS app for that?
    Nope. The only tablet devices you can watch Prime/Instant Video on are the Kindle Fire and Windows tablets.

    All the other clients are for computers, 360/PS3, and set-top boxes.

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    last dumb question from me.

    the android OS is stored on a ROM separately from the main storage area, so i don't need to worry about the OS reducing my available storage, correct?

    my first mobile device other than conventional cell phone so thx for your patience.

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    No, that's wrong. It takes up some of your 8GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scharmers View Post
    I would like a $200 tablet that actually has Google Play on it. B&N and Amazon stores don't have Kairosoft games, the asshats.
    THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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    I was wondering if Samsung or Asus could release a similar product for a similar price, I'm not confident about Goggle worldwide support given the experience, and find out the there is already one from Samsung, and it has expendable storage. Now the Nexus has a better screen and CPU, but the next version from Samsung probably will catch up on that and it certanly will be available were I live. The only problem is touchwiz but CyanogenMod could fix that.

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    Tablet Honeycomb/ICS TouchWiz is not intrusive in the slightest. My Galaxy Tab 7.7 (with Honeycomb) is effectively identical to a stock 3.x/4.x tablet, except with a couple of legitimately handy addons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karnisov View Post
    last dumb question from me.

    the android OS is stored on a ROM separately from the main storage area, so i don't need to worry about the OS reducing my available storage, correct?

    my first mobile device other than conventional cell phone so thx for your patience.
    I've heard reports saying the Nexus 7 has as little as 5.9GB available (of the starting point of 8GB on the cheaper version) as it comes "out of the box." The rest is taken up by preloaded stuff and the OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbreath View Post
    Tablet Honeycomb/ICS TouchWiz is not intrusive in the slightest. My Galaxy Tab 7.7 (with Honeycomb) is effectively identical to a stock 3.x/4.x tablet, except with a couple of legitimately handy addons.
    That's good to know. How do you find the browsing experience on a 7 inches tablet, do you go to the mobile version of the site or the full version? assuming they don't have a tablet version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyjamarama View Post
    That's good to know. How do you find the browsing experience on a 7 inches tablet, do you go to the mobile version of the site or the full version? assuming they don't have a tablet version.
    I generally find that the full version is usable, if generally a bit too small in the text. I either zoom or deal with it, normally, unless the site's mobile/tablet version is particularly good.

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    ....and bought. Looking forward to X-Plane, Kairosoft games, Rebuild, and the Dwarf Fortress book on my new tablet :)

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