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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post

    How in the world do I tell exactly how much cash I have anyways?
    Click on your name on the left side of the screen and it goes to your info. Cash is one of the listings on the top half. I hope my stock buys work out as I now have .07 cents to my name.

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    OK so stocks are personal cash, not company cash.

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    Until you go public, you can transfer cash between your personal account and your corporate account.

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    The weirdest thing just happened to me. I got logged out, then the FB login button was missing. The words are there, but there's nothing to click. That's how I've always logged in. Trying to log in with my username took me to a new player screen. So now I'm Bilbo Baggins instead of Fenious Buttersmith. I left a note in the Tech Support forum, but i guess Rattan is out spending all the cash we've given him. Oh wait..

    Anyway, I bought the new IPO just advertised. You better come through if I can't get my old account back, because I sold everything to get in..

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    I don't know if many of you are reading the ingame forums... someone (not me) put together a diagram of how all the products link together in the production chain. It's interesting:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/90245301/eosflow

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfernando View Post
    I don't know if many of you are reading the ingame forums... someone (not me) put together a diagram of how all the products link together in the production chain. It's interesting:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/90245301/eosflow

    That looks like a star map in a super dense galaxy. I guess that it is helpful if you were trying to demonstrate depth. Otherwise I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbd1963 View Post
    The weirdest thing just happened to me. I got logged out, then the FB login button was missing. The words are there, but there's nothing to click. That's how I've always logged in. Trying to log in with my username took me to a new player screen. So now I'm Bilbo Baggins instead of Fenious Buttersmith. I left a note in the Tech Support forum, but i guess Rattan is out spending all the cash we've given him. Oh wait..

    Anyway, I bought the new IPO just advertised. You better come through if I can't get my old account back, because I sold everything to get in..
    Which web browser are you using? I've found that the facebook login doesn't work for me at all on IE7 (durn company won't let me upgrade the browser on my work laptop. It's like they're afraid I'll play games on it or something...)

    It's also had it happen to me on my home computer, but all I had to do was shut down my browser, restart it, and go back to ratjoy.com. It auto-logged me back into my facebook account that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFrazer View Post
    Which web browser are you using? I've found that the facebook login doesn't work for me at all on IE7 (durn company won't let me upgrade the browser on my work laptop. It's like they're afraid I'll play games on it or something...)

    It's also had it happen to me on my home computer, but all I had to do was shut down my browser, restart it, and go back to ratjoy.com. It auto-logged me back into my facebook account that way.
    I'm on Chrome. The FB button is back this morning, but I am puzzled by how logging in manually brings me to a different character. It may be something that I did myself, but darn if I can figure it out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepiche View Post
    Yeah FOOD is doing excellent today... made me 14m so far.

    And for anyone wanting a seat on the gravy train:

    I'm planning on finally doing my IPO tomorrow around 7pm central time. My company is Lemon Industries (LI).
    Is this still on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbd1963 View Post
    Is this still on?
    Yup. Should still go forward in a little over 3 hours.

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    Shit, I have no cash.

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    Ha! For once I got in at a relatively cheap price.

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    I just got filthy, filthy rich. Thanks Sepiche!

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    Careful with the market for a bit. There is a rash of negative networth companies doing IPOs with huge dividends to attract people. Make sure you check out the company profile before diving into an IPO.

    (obviously I'm not talking about the ones posted on here. Just making sure that once you catch the stock bug, you don't start buying every IPO that posts)

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    Good lord what happened to all the rubber?!

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    VORCORP is doing well. Thanks to everyone who invested.

    Paid off all loans and just brought several new Mines and Smelters online to fill out the products for the Industrial Stores. The stores are bringing in 500k per tick now and that will go up as the smelters start kicking out the rest of the products i wasnt already making. Surplus materials will start showing up on B2B now for another bump in cash flow.

    I plan to hold 70+ % stock at all times and will split it if available stock runs out. Its at about $12 now and should continue to see a steady rise as more infrastructure comes online.

    R&D has sped up as a new facility came online and an expansion of another finally finished.

    I'm going to let the cash and inventory accumulate for a bit to allow for a stock split before i do any more construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post
    Good lord what happened to all the rubber?!

    Well my timing sucks, I just sold my petrochemical plant and got out of the rubber business since I thought I should try to focus on one market. If you have a steady demand for it. I can rebuild the plant and if you dont mind 0 quality rubber I can easily crank out a bunch from my plantations right now. I'm Mammon Industrial. You've purchased from me before.

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    I don't see an easy way to tell what my throughput is on the products I'm selling. The history at the store only shows by a couple ticks and that is extremely annoying.

    So that being said, it's hard to tell exactly what my demand is on Rubber, but I know right now I'm going to run out of it within a day.

    My guess without proper sales info on my final product is that I go through about 200 rubber per day (that makes 2,000 of my product)

    It's primarily used in sporting goods and that is still an untapped market, so I can see why it's not very profitable to be selling rubber.
    Last edited by Pogo; 04-22-2012 at 03:25 PM.

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    If anyone needs lumber, paper, or toilet paper, I'm dumping mass quantities to try to get some cash for stocks. Buttersmith Inc. is the brand.

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    I may have to build my own petrochemical plant.

    Anyone done the math on if it's more worthwhile to build a new factory, or if it's better to expand a factory?

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    The primary benefit i have found to having multiple buildings is that i can upgrade one and still produce out of the other(s). With only a single building, and assuming your past the free upgrades intro period and/or have no influence to spend, an upgrade on the building will totally shut down your production for a period of time. There are cost/scale benefits to having bigger buildings over multiples but if its in your primary industry i would strongly recommend at least 2-3 buildings to spread out the upgrade downtimes.

    Pogo, if you need rubber for your manufacturing i can start putting some on the market for you. just give me some idea of the quantity you need regularly. I have 4 Petrochemical plants at 500+ size and can output quite a large amount with little effort. Current quality is 8 and rising. i dont think it would be worth a building slot for a petro-chem plant if that was your only use for it.

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    I'm keeping an eye on how much I sell today so that I can get an accurate number of how much rubber I need daily.

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    Yeesh, demand for rubber is weird. I watched it sell in my stores and last tick i sold 250 units at $60 each. I set the price high on purpose and its still flying off the shelves.

    Well, i set one of the petro-chem plants on a 24 hour cycle for Rubber and will have 250k units available this time tomorrow. It gets snapped up quick each time i put any on B2B so we might need to coordinate the release a bit.

    Here is some stock info if anyone is interested in investing in a long term growth stock. I will split the stock if the available shares run out:

    Current Stock Price: $18.08
    Total Shares: 123 M
    Shares Available: 2.86 M
    Market Cap: $2.22 G
    P/E: 15.1
    7-Day EPS: $1.20
    Daily Dividend: $0.02 (0.11%)

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    Wow, with those store prices it's hard to rationalize putting anything on B2B.

    Seems like something should be done about that. I haven't tried but does setting a competitive price based on world prices and quality not matter?

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    My company just vanished. :/

    EDIT -- an update snatched it -- 135 players affected, but RJ has a fix in the works.
    Last edited by dbd1963; 04-22-2012 at 07:31 PM.

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    Well, those sales also represent 1700 m2 of retail space, so keep that in mind when comparing numbers.

    i'm still trying to get a handle on the best way to price goods, especially when your are vertically integrated (building and selling your own products). I read about 2x or 3x resale prices but i think those assume purchasing the materias on b2b or import. That doesnt work for stuff you build yourself. For example: i build my own titanium alloy which costs me $300 to produce but the average world sale price is over $3000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vormithrax View Post
    Well, those sales also represent 1700 m2 of retail space, so keep that in mind when comparing numbers.
    Yeah but still, $60 a unit is double and triple the price of rubber that was being sold on B2B. That's $6 in rubber for every unit of product I'm producing.

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    Sorry for the short notice, but there's another OO company going to IPO in one hour (11am Central) with the ticker WILD for anyone that wants in.

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    One of the guys there seems to think it's not a good investment, saying, "the robo-citizens won't buy your stinky shares, lol." Can anyone confirm or rule out that this is the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbd1963 View Post
    One of the guys there seems to think it's not a good investment, saying, "the robo-citizens won't buy your stinky shares, lol." Can anyone confirm or rule out that this is the case?
    I think he was making commentary on this part of the new update to EoS, not commentary about WILD:
    Robotizens of Econosia are now more picky on the stock market
    I think all that means is he probably added some code so shell companies that get listed on the market won't get the simulated investment by NPCs that other companies get. Not totally sure though.

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