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    If Romney gets the nom as expected, how enthusiastic...

    will his voters in the general election be?

    I know that in terms of the popular vote, the major party nominee always pretty much gets about 40% mostly due to "tribal affiliation" effects. I guess what I'm wondering is whether the anti-Obama sentiment among Republican-leaning voters is strong enough that, with Romney as the nominee, a large number of them will actually do more than just vote come election day. Will there be an enthusiasm gap vs. say Republican voters in the 2000 or 2004 elections?

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    I expect the base will not be enthusiastic unless he does something interesting with his VP choice. Maybe Palin would want it. She doesn't really want to work but she likes being in the spotlight -- perfect for a VP.

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    I think the base may be more enthused than predicted, as they will embrace Romney as their guy to get Obama out of the White House.

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    Sorry, But I don't think anyone can be sure who owns Mitt Romney or what he stands for. Other than saying or doing anything to be President, he very well may sell every nonmormon into slavery how can you be sure? The truth seems to mean nothing to him. The man is udderly without any honor that I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W Wiley View Post
    Sorry, But I don't think anyone can be sure who owns Mitt Romney or what he stands for.
    Well, hell, I was fooled by Obama and bought his BS hook line and sinker, so maybe he and Romney will be a good battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W Wiley View Post
    The man is udderly without any honor that I can see.
    How appropriate, you fight like a cow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffL View Post
    I think the base may be more enthused than predicted, as they will embrace Romney as their guy to get Obama out of the White House.

    Polls regarding his chances vs Obama seem to imply that republicans (and maybe a percentage of independents) will vote for him if he gets the nominations. Santorum followers can't make that claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W Wiley View Post
    Sorry, But I don't think anyone can be sure who owns Mitt Romney or what he stands for. Other than saying or doing anything to be President, he very well may sell every nonmormon into slavery how can you be sure? The truth seems to mean nothing to him. The man is udderly without any honor that I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W Wiley View Post
    Sorry, But I don't think anyone can be sure who owns Mitt Romney or what he stands for. Other than saying or doing anything to be President, he very well may sell every nonmormon into slavery how can you be sure? The truth seems to mean nothing to him. The man is udderly without any honor that I can see.

    Who would be buying us non-mormons I wonder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuzz View Post
    Who would be buying us non-mormons I wonder?
    The Koch brothers.

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    Or Xenu really how can you be sure? Does Mitt Romney's word mean anything?

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    He's the GOP version of John Kerry, and I'd expect the same kind of enthusiasm as drove the ABB (anyone but Bush) people in 2004. It wasn't enough then, and as long as the economy holds up it won't be enough now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mad Hatter View Post
    He's the GOP version of John Kerry, and I'd expect the same kind of enthusiasm as drove the ABB (anyone but Bush) people in 2004. It wasn't enough then, and as long as the economy holds up it won't be enough now.

    If the economy continues to improve, and gas doesn't reach $5, Romney probably doesn't stand a chance.

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    The difference between Kerry and Romney is haircut. Kerry had dry, flyaway hair that wouldn't behave! Romney has an irreproachable haircut. I mean, that is a fucking HAIRCUT. You know?

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    In terms of the Republican base it won't be much different than 2008. Once again the Republican nominee is someone whom the True Believers consider to be an excessively moderate RINO whom they only support because of perceived electability. And of course Obama is as much a black elitist socialist Muslim foreigner as he ever was.

    So I would expect turnout from the True Believers to be pretty much the same. The real action will come from the Independents--how many of them will show up, and what sorts? (A lot of so-called "Independents" actually have very pretty clear partisan leanings; they just don't like being labeled.)

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    But Obama is leading an assault on freedom of religion now...

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    Whether the right wing of the GOP goes strong for Romney may depend on who he selects as his VP candidate. Who will be Romney's Palin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanTon View Post
    In terms of the Republican base it won't be much different than 2008. Once again the Republican nominee is someone whom the True Believers consider to be an excessively moderate RINO whom they only support because of perceived electability. And of course Obama is as much a black elitist socialist Muslim foreigner as he ever was.

    So I would expect turnout from the True Believers to be pretty much the same. The real action will come from the Independents--how many of them will show up, and what sorts? (A lot of so-called "Independents" actually have very pretty clear partisan leanings; they just don't like being labeled.)
    You're absolutely right, though I do hold out hope that the conservatives-in-independent-clothing tend to be Tea Party types who are fickle when they aren't being served exactly what they want. There's a good chance that they'll stay home or vote off-brand because Romney is the opposite of what they believe. Turnout on the left-leaners might be blah too, I'm certainly in that group and not very enthusiastic about either side right now. If I wasn't so wired into the horror show that has been the GOP campaign I might give it a miss as well.

    I'm still giddy thinking about the cognitive dissonance as we go into the general with a Republican candidate that historically is to the left of where Obama now finds himself. It's going to make for INSANE debates. I mean, Romney fucking passed universal healthcare AND gun control! My facebook feed is going to melt down when I start trolling in earnest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuzz View Post
    Who will be Romney's Palin?
    Santorum.

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    I think there's too much bad blood between them for Romney to ever pick Santorum as a running mate. I fully expect it to be someone who's not been on any of the primary ballots (one of the usual suspects from the list of Republican governors seems likeliest).

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    Quote Originally Posted by notatiger View Post
    Santorum.
    Nah, though that would be a Palin-esque mistake. He'll get a Southern protestant of some sort to round out his billionaire Mormon problems. Preferably one with a civil rights record that isn't shameful.

    H.

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    Or he'll pick that Mitch Daniels guy from Indiana. Isn't he one of the darlings of the Republican right wing these days?

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    Rubio is the obvious pick, I'd think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Many Jars View Post
    The difference between Kerry and Romney is haircut. Kerry had dry, flyaway hair that wouldn't behave! Romney has an irreproachable haircut. I mean, that is a fucking HAIRCUT. You know?
    That and actually being successful in business as opposed to marrying into money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    That and actually being successful in business as opposed to marrying into money.
    Meh. Romney was born entitled; he didn't have to marry anyone. Capital management is the realm of those who are already rich.

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    Huntsman? Too liberal and to Mormon probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReptileHouse View Post
    Rubio is the obvious pick, I'd think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuzz View Post
    Huntsman? Too liberal and to Mormon probably.
    Yeah, no chance of that, the GOP would shit themselves about the Great Mormon Peril. He'll go protestant to defuse, I'll put money on that.

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    Not enthused at all, unless he gets some rabid Tea Party darling for his Vice-President, in which case he'll mobilize the base at the cost of the center. Basically, it's Obama's election to lose, not Romney's to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houngan View Post
    Nah, though that would be a Palin-esque mistake. He'll get a Southern protestant of some sort to round out his billionaire Mormon problems. Preferably one with a civil rights record that isn't shameful.

    H.
    Hmmm. Haley Barbour? He does well on the Sunday morning news shows.

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