"20 years from now, she'll be REALLY fat"
- Karl Lagerfeld
One of the greatest of all time, certain HOF inductee
Very very good singer, might make the HOF one day
Nice voice, but not HOF material
Has been out of the industry for years after a couple of failed records
Wasn't she just on the latest version of Baby Hit Me One More Time?
Yeah, that's fine. But the point is "Who the hell is Adele" comes off like she's some obscure nobody that a typical person wouldn't have heard of. She's been in the news for being a pop start who doesn't use autotune and wear weird clothes. She's been in the news because Karl Lagerfeld called her fat. She's been in the news because she's had several big hits and won a bunch of awards.
"I just don't listen to the sort of artists who win Grammys", no offense, comes off as "I don't even own a TV" hipster douchebaggery.
"20 years from now, she'll be REALLY fat"
- Karl Lagerfeld
I think she's an amazing singer, and that 21 will be regarded as a great album for years to come, but I suspect this was a one-time phenomenon for her, that her next album won't be received as well, and her career will follow a similar arc as Norah Jones, where she's still respected and continues to put out solo albums but never achieves this level of success again.
I tried ...listened to a few you tube vids...she is not that good. Listening to her made me want to stop.
Check out this performance at the Brits last year.
I'm not really into her style of music and I'm not her target audience, but I think she's got a strong voice and some great songs. Having never heard her speak, I can't say much about her personality. But, from based on remote-empathy - she's very honest with her music - and that's infinitely more interesting to me than the commercial approach.
I loathe this obsession with individuals that no one partaking in the discussion has ever met, though, but that's a topic for another discussion.
I can see people not liking her voice. My 16-year-old granddaughter, who likes that kind of music in general, doesn't like Adele's voice. But she recognizes it's a good voice, it's just not her cup of tea. That is a matter of personal preference. To say it's not a good voice is insanity.
You can dislike Grammy winners or be contemptuous of Grammy winners or find Grammy winners uninteresting musically, but in terms of "Who the hell is so and so", it's hard to call Grammy-winning type artists obscure. I feel like, at this point, if you really don't know who Adele is, you're going out of your way not to pay attention to the world around you.
This just gets back to my general irritation with people who seem proud of being ignorant of popular culture, which is not the same as being uncritical of popular culture or being required to love popular culture.
"I don't like Justin Bieber" is a perfectly reasonable stance. "I don't know who Justin Beiber is" just makes people come off like jaded hipster assholes. As I said before, the whole "I don't even own a TV." type.
I think this especially annoying in the case of Adele, since one of the main knocks against mainstream pop is that the people are chosen for looks or dancing ability over any actual ability to sing, and then run around in weird costumes or laser light shows or CGI videos or whatever and a ton of autotune. Whereas Adele is a chubby woman who doesn't dance around, doesn't use autotune, doesn't wear art projects for clothing, and doesn't go nuts with melisma. She just stands there and sings, well. She's everything people claim they want/miss in good quality pop music, and any mainstream success she gets should be seen as a good sign.
I haven't heard much of hers, basically just her hits, but I get the impression she has a good voice for the material she's currently doing. I don't see a lot of potential there for her to branch out, therefore I think long term her prospects are for a small-ish core fanbase but that the mainstream will get bored of her and move on. Norah Jones comes to mind in this regard, Come Away with Me was pretty much all anyone needs from her.
edit: Just read the thread, the Norah Jones comparison has already been made, d'oh!
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If that makes me a dullard, so be it.
I only knew who Adele was from the music videos my gym insists on playing on the big screen TV's near the machines. I don't listen to radio stations that play her music and if i saw her name in the paper or on a magazine cover I would have just ignored it like any other name.
He also was the DJ/Announcer for the K109 Disco channel in GTA 4
He's a known eccentric who semi-regularly says or does controversial or politically incorrect things. He typically dresses like a member of a vampire high council.
There, now you're basically up to speed on Karl Lagerfeld.
I only knew of Adele because a co-worker likes to listen to her music. Otherwise, I'd probably only recognize a song or two from passive exposure at a casino or grocery store and have no idea who was singing it. I think nowadays there's so many things vying for one's leisure attention, it can be easier to miss out on a big name in entertainment than before. There's more TV channels, more movies, fragmented music genres, bigger video games, and the internet, which allows you more control over filtering all this stuff than TV or radio ever did. If you're not into Top 40 or AC music, you can avoid most of it pretty easily.
I know who Justin Beiber is, but most of that knowledge comes from internet-based ridicule. I know he's a teenage pop singer and what he looks like, but I couldn't name a single song of his. It seems like I only ever learn of most of these folks when they get involved in controversy. I never heard of MIA until the superbowl incident, I never heard of Taylor Swift until the Kanye west incident, and I never heard of Kanye West until the Katrina incident.
"Who?" just makes you seem clueless and out of touch. And then one day you're going to be that sad old guy who can't make heads or tails of what an iPad is or whatever.
I am already that sad old guy. :)
I find there are very few recent musical groups/individuals or actors that I have any idea who they are, or why I should have heard of them. Name an athlete in (MLB-NFL-NBA-PGA) a major sport and I can tell you anything.
And while there are reasons (maybe) for owning an IPAD I fail to see why most people would want one. :)
Hey--old and "technologically impaired" do not always go together...I'll admit to more years than I'd like to (68), but I like to think of myself as in the technological loop. And I even own an iPad 2. :)