Logitech G13 Gamepad
Ok, so in some thread or another here, someone said, "Hey, I got this cool thing!", and it turned out to be the G13 from logitech.
I have an aging Nostromo sitting around somewhere, and had found it useful to some extent. My biggest complaint was that the little thumb-pad thingy on the old nostromo was basically useless. It was so stiff, and awkwardly placed, that I couldn't really do anything with it reliably.
The G13 looked to be a significant improvement over the old nostromo, and so I decided to pick one up.
Only... apparently these things have all been transported to some parallel dimension, and are impossible to find. Logitech still lists it on their website, as do most places... but actually finding one in stock seems really hard.
I tried ordering one from amazon... they said it was out of stock but would be shipping "soon". After a few days, they updated "soon" to be "Maybe in 1 to 2 months."
So I said, "screw that noise" and ordered it from amazon, but from a different merchant who supposedly actually had it in stock.. Another 6 days go by, and I send them an email "Hey folks, are you ever actually gonna ship that thing I bought from you?" and they reply, "Sorry, we don't have any. We'll cancel your order for you."
I tried to order another on Friday, so we'll see come monday what happens with it... But from looking around more online, I'm wondering if Logitech is getting ready to release a sucessor to it?
The product seemed to meet pretty good reviews, but I guess it's a few years old now, so maybe they're making a new one? I haven't seen anything about a specific product which is a successor, but maybe some folks at CES have seen something along the lines of this thing?
It's in stock at both newegg.com and Frys.com. I doubt that it sold that well, it takes up too much space on the desk and what it does has been replaced by mice like the Razer Naga.
It is hands down the best device of it's type and really doesn't take up that much space. I have the Naga as well as the g13 and they go together perfectly. Get the g13 it is awesome.
I love mine and the Fry's near me always have 2 or more in stock. If you have a Fry's near you go to their website see if the store near you has one in stock. If they do then you could be using it today.
Well, my most recent order has actually been shipped, so it should be on its way now.
The biggest thing I was asking in this thread was whether or not anyone has heard anything about a successor product. Now that I've actually ordered this, I'm sure they'll announce that some totally awesome and infinitely better product is going to hit the shelves tomorrow.
Don't know about successors ... I'm using Nostromo units at work and at home and they work well enough for me. Would like to try this G13 though and compare some day...
Interesting looking device. Ever since I started using the 360 controller, going back to keyboard/mouse has been painful because going to digital/analogue is a pain after experiencing analog/analog on the controller, even if the right thumbstick is not as accurate as the mouse. With this device, you can use the left thumbstick and the mouse, so it's best of both worlds, analog/analog.
My question though, is whether game developers actually use the left thumbstick on this device as an analog stick, or do they just emulate WASD + shift. In other words, is it just 8 direction and 2 speeds, or more of a continuum than that? Playing F.E.A.R. 1 on the 360 was painful because it was a bad console port of a PC game. They basically took the two speeds and 8 directions of WASD, and mapped it badly onto the left thumbstick.
You can set the thumb pad to whatever you want. It isn't really analog but it feels like it is. I love the thumb stick and it works well for every game I've thrown at it.
Also its really only 4 direction but pressing say down + right uses key press SD.
Still love the stuffing out of my Nostromo. I have one of the newer ones (n52te) these days.
So, what I'm thinking is that I'd want to use the thumbstick to replace the ASDW keys, for primary movement.
Originally Posted by Marcus
Is that at all feasible? It seems like it should be.
Yes that is what it is for and it works great for that.
Originally Posted by Timex
I'm one of the possibly 3 people in the universe who uses a thumb-controlled trackball for a mouse, so this seems like it'll be a good pairing.
You can also program up to 96, 100 if you count the button on the stick, different key strokes and you can also create macros that simulate multiple keystrokes.
Like you I'm probably one of two people using the Logitech cordless trackball. It' the one where you use your fingers to move the ball, thumb to press the LMB and your little pinky to press the RMB. Love both and won't play first person games with out them.
Came in the mail today, and it's pretty cool. There's no built in config for SWTOR, so I'll have to play with it.
Originally Posted by Demorve
The thumbstick seems good. A little stiffer in the middle than I'd like, but it'll break in.
I use Logitech's cordless trackball, but I use the one where your hand sits on it like a normal mouse, and your thumb moves the ball. Been using this style mouse forever.
I used to play mechwarrior with a mouse like that and a keyboard, and folks didn't see how I could possibly make it work... but I gotta say, and I'll take this belief to my grave.. not ever having to lift the mouse up is KEY.
The WoW profile works pretty good for ToR but you can make a custom profile as well that better fits your needs.
It's pretty easy to make your own profiles. One thing though, once you make a profile for a game copy it and store it someplace safe just in case your system drive goes down. I've had that happen a couple of time and I forgot to back up the profiles. Luckily I had most of my profiles on the G13 itself and I was able to recover most of them. That is one nice feature about this device, it stores the profiles you use on the G13 and keeps a copy on your computer. Have fun with it, once you get use to it you may never go back to using a keyboard for gaming. One more thing you don't have to keep it on your desk, I place it on my chest and bulging stomach when I use it.
Ok, so here's a thing...
The manual included with this is a 3 page fold out, with no actual words, that tells you to install the software and then plug it in.
Durr. Figured out what that button did. Flips little LCD apps. I had actually used it without even thinking, and then later looked at the thing and was like, "What does THAT button do?" forgetting that apparently my subconscious figured out what it did.
Anyway, still would have liked to have had SOME manual describing the functionality. But oh well, save the trees and all that.
Last edited by Timex; 01-18-2012 at 06:12 PM.
Wow, the little thumbstick actually can function as a regular analog joystick? I had gotten the impression that it couldn't, but it does.... that's kind of nifty.