Hatoful Boyfriend - A dating game about pigeons.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-05-2011, 10:23 PM

Seriously, do birds just not believe in grief counseling or something? For all that I am poking fun, the guy is pitiable.

That's for goddamn sure.

Holy shit, I have conversational whiplash! We've gone from "I CANNOT FEEL THIS EMOTION CALLED LOVE" to "I will wait for you forever?"

And seriously, forever? That's quite the assumption given that Fat Bird is lurking about.

... but you totally just did.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-05-2011, 10:27 PM

You know, I have been playing this game so much that the fact that we're talking to birds doesn't even register as a point of objection except in circumstances like this. He's not objecting to putting his bird ponos in her human vagoo because BIRD-HUMAN RELATIONS, but because of age difference? What? Really?

Aw man! I was actually kinda getting into the story of his total breakdown and dysfunction and now it's over.

Nothing good will come of it, that's for sure. Poor fucked up teacher.

Well, that's it for this route. Not at all what I was expecting, of course. This game keeps managing to surprise me, even when telling a rather traditional story it takes twists and misleads with music to keep me guessing.

**Strange Quark** · 12-05-2011, 10:32 PM

Angie, have you ever thought of streaming your playthroughs of these things? You could go ahead and post your comments on the forum for perpetuity, but we could also watch and comment LIVE as you come up with this stuff. You're only giving us four screenshots per post, so we've got to be missing some ridiculous stuff. I hope that isn't too presumptuous of me to ask, I know I just joined this site...

**browneyedrecluse** · 12-05-2011, 10:34 PM

fffffffffffffff how is this a dating sim if none of the endings are even concretely romantic? Seriously, the options are death, more death, and ambiguous possible future relationship. :C WHY CAN'T WE JUST LOOOOVE?

**Angie Gallant** · 12-05-2011, 10:35 PM

I've thought about it, but it would essentially mean doing two playthroughs for each route, and I think that would taint my commentary for the thread since I would be going in with detailed foreknowledge, while I've been mostly spoiler free and posting my instant reactions here. It would be more of a possibility for me if I were doing a game that wasn't so text-heavy, where there'd be more benefit from video vs screenshots.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-05-2011, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by browneyedrecluse

fffffffffffffff how is this a dating sim if none of the endings are even concretely romantic? Seriously, the options are death, more death, and ambiguous possible future relationship. :C WHY CAN'T WE JUST LOOOOVE?

Well, this is the demo! And the creator said that the full game has about two and a half times more content and a bunch more endings, in addition to a new character. So maybe this is just to whet your appetite for bird romance and murder.

**Strange Quark** · 12-05-2011, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

I've thought about it, but it would essentially mean doing two playthroughs for each route, and I think that would taint my commentary for the thread since I would be going in with detailed foreknowledge, while I've been mostly spoiler free and posting my instant reactions here. It would be more of a possibility for me if I were doing a game that wasn't so text-heavy, where there'd be more benefit from video vs screenshots.

Well, I was thinking more you could both comment verbally AND do the forum thing. I don't think those of us watching would mind you pausing every five minutes or so to post to the thread.

**browneyedrecluse** · 12-05-2011, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

Well, this is the demo! And the creator said that the full game has about two and a half times more content and a bunch more endings, in addition to a new character. So maybe this is just to whet your appetite for bird romance and murder.

Oh, I hope you do the full version whenever it occurs! This is seriously so amazing.

I started reading this because a friend linked it and I was like, "What is this? Is it a parody of something? I don't understand the reference and I'm CRANKY >:C." And about half a page later I could not stop reading it and I was laughing so hard. XD

(Eeee~ Look at us having a correspondence! I'm so glad I commented. <3)

**featherbrained** · 12-05-2011, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

He's not objecting to putting his bird ponos in her human vagoo because BIRD-HUMAN RELATIONS, but because of age difference? What? Really?

This was pretty much my reaction exactly. Forget the age gap... WHAT ABOUT THE SPECIES GAP?!

**Tiber** · 12-06-2011, 05:56 AM

Allow me to point out that by my recollection of Greek myth, Zeus knocked up at least one woman while pretending to be a bird (thus giving rise to a series of classic paintings that made me go "Wait, what? What's happening in this picture?..." (try looking "Leda" up on Wikipedia. Shudder.) when I was nine and getting dragged through the Great Art Museums Of The World by parents who were determined to give me Slightly More Culture Than They Had.)

I suggest the great mystery in the sequel out to be "WILL CLOACA WILL BE THE MOTHER OF A NEW RACE OF DEMIGODS?"

...In which case she should start chasing San, because damn.

**Aeon221** · 12-06-2011, 06:13 AM

This thread needs more guts! Yay guts!

**Dean** · 12-06-2011, 07:29 AM

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but these are not just pigeons, they're GIANT pigeons.

For the perspectives we see in the environments, they're actually 6-foot tall pigeons, which means they're pretty damn big.

I wouldn't want a giant pigeon ponos anywhere near me. Does that make me homophobic?

**Brian Seiler** · 12-06-2011, 07:30 AM

And racist.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-06-2011, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Strange Quark

Well, I was thinking more you could both comment verbally AND do the forum thing. I don't think those of us watching would mind you pausing every five minutes or so to post to the thread.

I think you underestimate the amount of sausage-making you'd be witnessing, since I have to trim the screenshots, etc. I don't know, I'll keep the idea in mind when Tokimeki Girls Side 3's english patch comes out, because that has voice acting that you guys could enjoy, you can see the touching mechanics, and I can screenshot that game without needing to go into photoshop and trim things.

Originally Posted by browneyedrecluse

Oh, I hope you do the full version whenever it occurs! This is seriously so amazing.

Oh, I will definitely do Fat Bird's full route, assuming that his "I want someone more intelligent" means that I can actually join his murderous ways without being killed. And I'll do at least a glimpse of the new birdy. But I kinda want people to actually give these people some cash for their brilliant insanity, so I'm not gonna do the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Dean

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but these are not just pigeons, they're GIANT pigeons.

For the perspectives we see in the environments, they're actually 6-foot tall pigeons, which means they're pretty damn big.

I wouldn't want a giant pigeon ponos anywhere near me. Does that make me homophobic?

You monster!

**CLWheeljack** · 12-06-2011, 07:49 AM

Have we been explicitly told they're giant birds? I guess they'd have to be for some of the mechanics of things we've seen to work out.

Anyways, it's not like them being pigeon sized, and the player being person sized would be weirder than what we've already got going on.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-06-2011, 07:55 AM

We know that their brains got physically larger when they got smarter, so I've been assuming a size increase, but not a 6 foot one. After all, when Yuuya got cooked he was the same size as a large chicken or a turkey.

**CLWheeljack** · 12-06-2011, 08:08 AM

Plus, they're big enough to use a broom, at least in some fashion. So turkey sized sounds reasonable.

I missed this in the beginning, but does the game explicitly state that you're in a (poorly made) bird disguise, or is that also just an assumption?

**Angie Gallant** · 12-06-2011, 08:14 AM

That was my own cold medicine and fever-induced assumption, but I am not the only player who has come to that conclusion, as evidenced by AWESOME JAPANESE FANARTIST.

**Shellfishguy** · 12-06-2011, 09:09 AM

You know its both scary and awesome, but as I was out shopping for new Christmas decorations this weekend every time I saw something that had Ho Ho Ho on it made me think of that damn doctor.

**Vivianne** · 12-06-2011, 10:13 AM

This is the most awesome game evar. I mean I don't really want to play it but the fact that there are people in the world that want to make a love story dating game with the cunning use of pigeons just tickles my whimsy in every way possible. I am amused.

**Vivianne** · 12-06-2011, 10:14 AM

double post gah

**RichVR** · 12-06-2011, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

We know that their brains got physically larger when they got smarter, so I've been assuming a size increase, but not a 6 foot one. After all, when Yuuya got cooked he was the same size as a large chicken or a turkey.

Will you stop mentioning that? It always makes me so hungry.

**Strange Quark** · 12-06-2011, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

I think you underestimate the amount of sausage-making you'd be witnessing, since I have to trim the screenshots, etc. I don't know, I'll keep the idea in mind when Tokimeki Girls Side 3's english patch comes out, because that has voice acting that you guys could enjoy, you can see the touching mechanics, and I can screenshot that game without needing to go into photoshop and trim things.

I am... deeply ashamed that I actually want to see these things. But it's just SO ridiculous, it's ENTRANCING. But uh, since I"m new to this site, is there some schedule to these things? Right now I'm just showing up each evening because you seem to be posting at around 10 or 11pm my time, but how am I supposed to know when you start a new one of these?

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

Oh, I will definitely do Fat Bird's full route, assuming that his "I want someone more intelligent" means that I can actually join his murderous ways without being killed.

YES PLEASE

**Sjofn** · 12-06-2011, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Angie Gallant

I think you underestimate the amount of sausage-making you'd be witnessing, since I have to trim the screenshots, etc. I don't know, I'll keep the idea in mind when Tokimeki Girls Side 3's english patch comes out, because that has voice acting that you guys could enjoy, you can see the touching mechanics, and I can screenshot that game without needing to go into photoshop and trim things.

After reading your playthroughs of the first two Tokimeki Girl Side games, I cannot wait for the third one's patch to come out, dammit. I sort of wish I wasn't so hugely lazy, otherwise I'd totally start playing these games myself. :P

**MetManMas** · 12-06-2011, 06:38 PM

Count me as another guy who registered to comment.

I have never played a full-on dating sim game before this, but Hatoful Boyfriend caught my attention when I saw a screencap of Shadowgate's Grim Reaper as a bird on another forum, and once I read through the Fat Bird arc I just couldn't stop reading. I even downloaded the demo and patch myself to experience it firsthand.

Keep up the good work documenting this crazy, wacky game, Angie. I know I'm looking forward to buying the translated full version when it comes out.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-06-2011, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Strange Quark

I am... deeply ashamed that I actually want to see these things. But it's just SO ridiculous, it's ENTRANCING. But uh, since I"m new to this site, is there some schedule to these things? Right now I'm just showing up each evening because you seem to be posting at around 10 or 11pm my time, but how am I supposed to know when you start a new one of these?

There is no schedule, I just start a thread when I am entranced with a weird game and want to share the joy. I suppose I could use my extremely neglected twitter account to announce when I am starting a new game. Or my even more neglected blog. I have no idea.

You could just hang out with us on Qt3.

And I totally cannot wait for TMGS3 to be translated either. The whole love triangle mechanic is hilarious and I am sure to botch it up in epic fashion.

I'll be starting up Ryouta's route in about 20-30 minutes here. I have NO IDEA how to get him since I don't know what stats he cares about or how to meet up with him, so this'll be interesting.

**John Many Jars** · 12-06-2011, 06:59 PM

Japan delenda est

**CesspoolofHatred** · 12-06-2011, 07:26 PM

When the translated full version of the game comes out, I trust that you will, of course, post a link to buy it, as well as a link to the patch?

Or maybe a better idea would be to edit the first post and put the links there.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-06-2011, 07:36 PM

So our first bit of development for Ryouta comes when it's time for people to select their afterschool activities.

So pretty much anybirdie who isn't going to kill me has to have a tragic tale filled with woe?

Oh god, I did the birdie thing again.

He's certainly doing a good job of living up to the childhood friend cliche, what with the taking care of the clueless protagonist and everything.

Anyway, the sports festival comes around and I decide to do the three-legged race because I haven't chosen that one yet and Ryouta mentioned something about possibly trying it out.

YES. I CANNOT SEE ANY FLAWS WITH THIS PLAN.

Wait, why is the BIRD running for them both? I was picturing him flapping around uselessly tied to her leg while she just took off.

**Angie Gallant** · 12-06-2011, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by CesspoolofHatred

When the translated full version of the game comes out, I trust that you will, of course, post a link to buy it, as well as a link to the patch?

Or maybe a better idea would be to edit the first post and put the links there.

I'll probably bump the thread and edit the first post, just to be kind.

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