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Thread: The Penn State Scandal: Shame in Happy Valley

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    Silas Redd talking to USC about transferring. While there's plenty of irony there, that would be the first big blow to Penn State as far as player defections go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wholly Schmidt View Post
    Is there any demographic more primed to be passionately, vocally, wrong about things than college students? ....
    The elderly. Well, OK, but what they lack in passion, they make up for in blinkered obstinacy and a fierce commitment to beets. Thankfully, being middle-aged, I have neither of these problems.

    An interesting father-son contrast between Christian Hackenberg -- "At the end of the day, if there's football at Penn State, I'm going to be there" -- and his dad: "There are times where you know you need to cut bait instead of keep fishing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Many Jars View Post
    More tearful undergrads on the news tonight. Were they majoring in football fan?
    It's Penn State. It's either football or fracking.

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    Hehehe, fracking, hehehehe

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    Fracking football!

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    University of Michigan has (re)offered scholarship to Ross Douglas. I'm guessing other schools have as well. He's coming to town this weekend for some sort of cookout the program is having.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleck View Post
    It's Penn State. It's either football or fracking.
    Or looking the other way ... AKA "The Paterno Way".

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    Quote Originally Posted by triggercut View Post
    Rich Cirminiello ‏@RichCirminiello

    Being told from those closest to program that (as expected) #PennState seniors have toughest decision... underclassmen most likely to bolt
    Yeah, it has to be tough on the seniors. It will be hard to transfer and be ready in time with another team. And then there's the whole degree thing. They'll have to be assured their credits will transfer and will apply to a similar degree.

    If I was a senior who didn't have pro aspirations I'd think about staying, keeping my scholarship, and not playing.

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    The constant images of grief stricken students and alumni crying and wailing about the unfairness of it all are really starting to annoy the shit out of me. Granted, there are a small group of students who I feel have every right to feel they've been treated unfairly, and that's the current players and incoming freshmen. Their collegiate lives have been turned upside down through no fault of their own and it sucks. The entire rest of the student body and all the alumni need to shut the fuck up like yesterday. They need to recognize the perspective here, the university itself is not banned from giving out degrees or educating students, it's a goddamn football team. If Joe Paterno and the Nittany Lions mean that much to someone not directly affiliated with the program then perhaps those people should reconsider their priorities in life.

    I also feel bad for every other student athlete at Penn State, as from the response in Happy Valley you would think football was the only sport at the school.

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    It isn't?

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    Penn has a really good women's volleyball program. Honest, it's one of the best in the country and almost certainly the best east of the Mississippi.

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    One of the best in the nation, actually.

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    We only had one sports program at my university worth talking about at the time, and that was basketball. I don't need to mention the school so much as the coach for anyone to figure out what happened: Jerry Tarkanian (who went on to accumulate suspensions for any school he coached at after that). Tark the Shark broke the rules, fled in advance of the coming investigations to Vegas, and left Long Beach State holding the bag. Shrug - I was there to get an education. Any school that pissed and moaned about how unfair it all was after that didn't get a whole lot of sympathy from me.

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    Football AND women's volleyball at one university? Penn State is, like, the Florence of our time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte Mhath View Post
    The constant images of grief stricken students and alumni crying and wailing about the unfairness of it all are really starting to annoy the shit out of me. Granted, there are a small group of students who I feel have every right to feel they've been treated unfairly, and that's the current players and incoming freshmen. Their collegiate lives have been turned upside down through no fault of their own and it sucks. The entire rest of the student body and all the alumni need to shut the fuck up like yesterday. They need to recognize the perspective here, the university itself is not banned from giving out degrees or educating students, it's a goddamn football team. If Joe Paterno and the Nittany Lions mean that much to someone not directly affiliated with the program then perhaps those people should reconsider their priorities in life.
    This pretty much sums up what I meant, I just chose to write it in a single sentence. Apparently that bothers some folks :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Many Jars View Post
    Football AND women's volleyball at one university? Penn State is, like, the Florence of our time.
    Their wrestling is top notch, national champs this year. So, I'd say Florence is the poor man's Penn State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiredgoons View Post
    Their wrestling is top notch, national champs this year. So, I'd say Florence is the poor man's Penn State.
    You can only say that because you've never seen Giovanni Boccaccio's single leg takedown or Michaelangelo bridge to a reversal.

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    Bad but still amusing:



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    HAhaha, totally stealsing.

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    I love rob's reply about the library, very apt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corsair View Post
    We only had one sports program at my university worth talking about at the time, and that was basketball. I don't need to mention the school so much as the coach for anyone to figure out what happened: Jerry Tarkanian (who went on to accumulate suspensions for any school he coached at after that). Tark the Shark broke the rules, fled in advance of the coming investigations to Vegas, and left Long Beach State holding the bag. Shrug - I was there to get an education. Any school that pissed and moaned about how unfair it all was after that didn't get a whole lot of sympathy from me.
    Tark also sued the NCAA over the way they treated him and won. Everyone forgets that part. He got Fresno State in trouble too, although it was the guy after him (Ray Lopes) who really crippled our basketball program.

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    Tweeted by Penn State:

    "This team has taken on more adversity than any team has faced in history, which is a testament to our commitment to our team's character, our fans, and our university."
    Umm yeah I think SMU was fucked over much worse than you guys. I don't think that's even open to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reemul View Post
    I love rob's reply about the library, very apt.
    And he got 82 likes to her 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuzz View Post
    Tark also sued the NCAA over the way they treated him and won. Everyone forgets that part.
    I didn't forget that part, it just didn't do a whole lot for the schools he got in trouble.

    He got Fresno State in trouble too...
    As I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Dunkin View Post
    Bad but still amusing:



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    That's great.

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    Former Penn State President, the AD, and a VP were charged with felonies today for the cover-up.

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    Yay!56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woolen Horde View Post
    Former Penn State President, the AD, and a VP were charged with felonies today for the cover-up.

    Is there any indication in the way these guys were charged that Paterno would have been indicted were he still alive?

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    That question was explicitly asked and the DA dismissed it as irrelevant, saying that Paterno's dead and these guys are alive.

    I wonder what effect this will have on Spanier's sooper sekrit government job?

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