I've been trying to get access to TEST jabber and forums for about an hour. I never thought I'd see an auth app harder to use than ours!
Edit: Finally figured it out, the auth password isn't the same as the external services password by default. Argh.
Last edited by CaldeDan; 09-26-2011 at 04:35 PM.
My 10 hour hero is in the cooker, going to shoot some Mackinaws.
Arrr! wish I knew to buy a bunch of oxy isotopes before this! then I could be a rich man!
I had a little advance warning, but I didn't bother resubbing to take advantage of it. Anyway, if things go seriously nuts you could still jump in. This is just the first wave of speculators.
New devblog with sneak peek at Winter Expansion - some nice stuff there, including, joy of joys, the long-awaited balancing of hybrid weapons.
Also linked there is a rather moving blog from Hilmar, acknowledging that it was all his fault.
Hybrid weapons balancing
Factional warfare
Assault ships
Capital ship balancing
New T2 modules
Starbase logistics management
New EWAR-Drones
T2 Rigs manufacturing
Ship spinning
New font
More captains quarters
Time dilationYEAH.Factional warfare
There's more here: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2672Dear Followers of EVE Online,
The past few months have been very humbling for me. I’ve done much soul searching, and what follows is my sincere effort to clear the air with all of you.
Please bear with me as I find my way through.
The estrangement from CCP that many of you have been feeling of late is my fault, and for that I am truly sorry. There are many contributing factors, but in the end it is I who must shoulder the responsibility for much of what has happened. In short, my zeal for pushing EVE to her true potential made me lose sight of doing the simple things right. I was impatient when I should have been cautious, defiant when I should have been conciliatory and arrogant when I should have been humble.
This soul searching took me back to when EVE was just an idea. Bringing her to life in 2003 was, in many people’s minds, impossible. But we found a way because EVE is something unique in the world. Getting her to 100,000 subscribers was an even more fantastical feat. Before long, we were launching in China, making DUST 514, merging with White Wolf to build World of Darkness, building Carbon, growing the company to 600 people, increasing our subscriber count beyond that of the population of Iceland and on and on, one resounding success after the next despite earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and even a world economic collapse.
Somewhere along the way, I began taking success for granted. As hubris set in, I became less inclined to listen to pleas for caution. Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans. Mistakes, even when they were acknowledged, often went unanalyzed, leaving the door open for them to be repeated.
You have spoken, loudly and clearly, with your words and with your actions. And there were definitely moments in recent history when I wish I would have listened more and taken a different path.
I was wrong and I admit it.
but that's the most impressive part
That dev blog from the CEO of a company with 600 employees. Holy shit .... real, tangible improvements do need to happen but ... holy shit ....
I'm tempted to re-sub ....
shit ... this is quite something
Also, as somebody else mentioned:
the subscription numbers must be terrible
Last edited by farfrael; 10-05-2011 at 12:12 PM.
"Those suckers will lap that shit up"
Hell if they actually do those things...save teh eve I know and love.
EWAR drone fix! glad they realize that it is a problem. FW could use a shot in the arm, I would like null sec to be more exciting. blah blah blah. I will wait and see. also fix my diemost bro.
It's hybrid weapon balancing, not crappy gallente ship balancing, for that you have to wait until 2014.
Yeah, I qualify for this description :(Originally Posted by JM
He was the guy who said "watch what the players do, not what they say". Well, the same applies to CCP.
Yep, which at least he acknowledges that his words mean shit without action.
I cancelled my EVE sub with the whole Incarna debacle, specifically in regards to those comments he made. I've got no plans to resub now, but if the Winter expansion is awesome and they keep rolling out good things I can see myself coming back. Time will tell, but I need proof before they get a dime from me ever again.
I still had the client installed so I fired it up just to see the number of players online: 23,000. That seems pretty low, no?
Well, it is a Wednesday night -- but yes, I think PCU counts have been generally plateauing or going down over the last few months, which was one of the things the Mittani pointed to in his post talking about how CCP's neglect of the flying in space part of the game was a generally horrible idea.
PCU will pick back up if CCP really manages to turn shit around. Good word of mouth does more than ten million euros spent on flash banners.
Goonswarm is considering reimbursing outsiders who join in the ganking of miners.
If they do indeed start issuing Letters of Marquee, I'll be resubbing, scamming cash for an orca and a pilot who can fly it, and then bringing death and destruction to all of hisec.
I just love the idea of floating about with a mini-carrier, destroying everything in my path.
Plus I can do even more hilarious things like join a mining alliance with my orca pilot and then fly off with the entire load in my hold. Man, the possibilities for trolling with an orca are just mind boggling. Why didn't I think of this sooner?
Oh, and Hilmar's OMG PLEEZ RESUB WE SURRENDER blog constitutes an acceptable level of submission, so I feel that victory is mine and that of my fellow protesters.
I'll be watching these developments really carefully, as I'm too considering resubbing if they fix what they say they'll fix.
Would you like to join my rampage through hisec? I think I'll judge myself a failure if I don't have at least three threads dedicated to hating me within my first week -- gotta get money somewhere, and I sure as hell don't intend to work for it! A couple people on the K.com forum are interested in privateering for the Goons, what with the promise of payments for ganking and much higher ones for "Dread Pirates' who rape their way through space. It should be way fun and very profitable (loot + insurance + Goon payout == gud munies), and also filled with lots of people saying funny things hating on you. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE.
Plus I need to raise, uh, I think like 2.5b to get an orca pilot + orca. I figure a couple decent corp thefts with ten hour heroes and I will be solid. Just train em up to gank quality, stick em in a corp, get rights through hard core "being myself" and then take everything that isn't nailed down. Follow the theft with contracting it to main, burning alt and wasting a few blues for laughs in a cheapo cane. Victory is mine, burn alt and remake. If necessary run a few contract scams. Keep people confused by hiding transactions through regular exchanges between various same account alts so that I can launder cash to the clean nosed orca pilot.
Or I could do another pump and dump on the eve market forum. I have a well established poster on there who made out like gangbusters by promoting an alt's IPO, only to follow up by denouncing the whole thing as a scam when he "took a look at the numbers". That was entertaining as hell, made me good money and allowed me to keep my credibility intact! Nothing like a shell game scam.
Last edited by Aeon221; 10-06-2011 at 01:47 PM.
you are one evil motherfucker aeon. Remind me to never ever do bussiness with someone who has numbers in their posting name.
But but but he said Perpetuum was "already better than EVE" and was really busy leading fights and stuff in that...
Surely it wasn't a predictable 2 week fling :)
Perpetuum, much as it has possibilities, is basically empty.
And, sadly, kinda boring.
If it gets better later, I'll have some adequately skilled characters to play with.
Perp is better than EVE, but empty and dominated by a BoBalike. I formed a new alliance out of the ashes of one we destroyed, established a coalition of the willing against CIR and led a bunch of gangs to generally rape and pillage the landscape.
So I had a pretty interesting impact on the game, but I couldn't keep our numbers up and I can't be asked to do something in an empty game. Especially when we had no meaningful mechanism to really harass and annoy them other than the odd gank or burning their potatoes (Perp's industrially vital plant crop that must be grown and can be harvested or destroyed by anyone). Conquests are handled in a system that utterly eliminates the possibility of surprise attacks, meaning large but underskilled and funded groups have no chance against groups with a six-nine month head start. And since I _love_ leading big fleets, much as it drains me and I say otherwise, and our numbers were down so I got bored.
My other problem? Lack of cash. I couldn't scam (had too much of a rep to uphold to do that), couldn't take reimburse from corp (despite the hours I put in) with a clean conscience when asking others to make cuts, and don't have the temperament of a grinder. So I got really really poor compared to everyone else. I'm a con man (in games) by habit and experience, and when I can't steal my way to wealth I get bored fast.
So with no route to military victory, no chance of a diplo victory without at least a few military gains against the dominant coalition, and no means of earning cash or stemming the flood of members hitting the unsub button, I left. I did have the one military victory under my sleeve (forced the collapse of the Norhoop Alliance, gained three of their member corps as allies in new alliance SQUID and lost one to Novastrov Alliance) but that was entirely through keeping total pressure on their island with ganks and preventing them from importing goods or generating resources. Plus whenever they looked likely to pull out of negotiations I led a gang through and slaughtered a bunch of their guys (like one day when I wiped out a sequer train holding their entire industrial input for the week. Whoopsie. Ceasefire Requested). But I couldn't shake the alliances in Nova without some big wins against CIR, and those were functionally impossible with our gears, numbers and experience. Nothing else mattered.
Anyway I've lined up an Orca through a guy on K.com who knows a guy. Both are interested in ganking, but idk how much trust I can put in them. We'll see! But I've got an Orca on tap and a desire to hurt things. Anyone interested can pm my fav alt, AeonThePiglet, and join in this weekend. I've been told by the Goon CFO that they want to let their guys pad their numbers before they let neuts on, but if we're particularly kill happy they could see their way to making something happen. Always a possibility. And in any event I will be working my balls off to scam some fools.
http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread...l=1#post309423
Mittens is proud of his accomplishments in making CCP bend over and obey.
as he should be. are you proud of being an asshole in games? are you one outside games as well? you dont happen to work on wallstreet do you?
Sure! And no, I work in Long Island (and live a few stops from Wall on the subway). What? I have an impact on the lives of others, sometimes positive and sometimes negative. I change the game from a static experience of accumulation to a dynamic one of creation or destruction on a large scale.
In Perp, I changed the dynamics of the beta space entirely just by moving in and doing my thing. Three independent power blocks exist where once there were two.
In EVE, countless tiny alliances knew my alts and feared! I also ran a tiny merc corp around the galaxy, having taken over for the existing CEO just two weeks after joining the game. We fought the NC and PL in X-7, extorted cash from tiny bearcorps in empire, lived in Insmother under Atlas where we fought the Russians daily, stole a wormhole, and generally died anywhere and everywhere. Until I joined and took over, they hadn't had a single contract and mostly faffed around in Amarr space doing missions. Our first combat op ended in us losing our entire "fleet" when our camp got crashed.
If it weren't for folks like me out there causing chaos on a small scale, EVE would be dull as shit. What is there to write about if not the experiences of thieves and warlords, pirates and mercenaries? Certainly not carebears grinding away, no one wants to hear about that unless they're in a wormhole.
Mittens is good at making the game change. He's able to influence it with jabber and skype, and has a sufficiently well managed profile that gaming media cover his little speeches and CCP listens. That's an impressive accomplishment for someone who plays internet spaceships, especially when that person no longer really logs in.
edit: Also, I think my proudest achievement in Perp was getting a reputation as super sneaky with my gangs. No one was ever sure how many I had out, so it got to the point that even really good pvpers didn't like engaging me. Even our carebears are generally safe thanks to my hardcore mindfucking and regular ambushes. Plus, I took a a six man gang out and killed a hmech after two weeks in game, and got our guys a name for being willing to fight against the odds and still do pretty well.
Last edited by Aeon221; 10-07-2011 at 12:08 PM.
yes, quite right. even on a large scale. nothing gets the heart going like having some asshole threaten to kick over your sandcastle. game needs bullies.
assholery such as yours makes building anything in eve a real achievement. its still sociopathic, no matter how "neccesary" it is.
anyway, game on. you dont mind if i call your gaming style sociopathic barbarism if you call mine carebearing huh?
There's no need to get personal. The EVE developers have created an environment that not only tolerates but actually encourages scammers. It's just a form of economic warfare between corporations. And given that no one who loses an EVE fight actually dies, all warfare in EVE is economic warfare. Complaining about scamming in EVE is like complaining about backstabbing in Diplomacy; it's part of the game.
If the rules of Monopoly allowed theft from the bank it would be silly to complain when people robbed the bank. But it would be perfectly fair to complain that the rule allowing bank robberies was a bad rule. You can complain about scamming in EVE. But claiming that scamming is a sign of bad character is silly.
i'm not complaining. just calling it out as sociopathic bully behavior. i agree with him that its a part of the game. perhaps even an essential part.
i just hate to think thats what the game is all about. because it isnt. not to me at least.
ok i shouldnt have played it ad hominem perhaps. trolled succesfully though. so its ok because it worked, right?
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