Reply With QuoteHmmm, have Mitt suck my dick or have Rick fuck me in the ass? Given that choice, I suppose...Originally Posted by W Wiley
Wait...I can vote for Obama, right?
The nets won't make a call that someone has definitively lost a race, but I will: Romney is not going to win Mississippi. Gingrich has a chance, but that grows slimmer as well.
Fire up the spin machines, Team Santorum!
Hmmm, have Mitt suck my dick or have Rick fuck me in the ass? Given that choice, I suppose...
Wait...I can vote for Obama, right?
At the rate votes are counting up in MS, they may be able to call it for Santorum very soon.
What's the delegate allocation rules for these states? I know not a lot were at stake to begin with (something like 80 between the two...)
AL is only winner take all if someone clears 50%. Since that won't happen, 21 delegates are awarded by congressional district, 26 delegates are apportioned by total vote count, and 3 are held by state muckity-mucks who can wait to declare at the Convention.
Mississippi works the same way: 3 delegates per winner of the congressional districts (12 total) and 25 at-large delegates apportioned by vote totals in the state. 3 state muckity mucks have independence in declaring their support, like in Alabama.
Good God, Romney outspent the other two by massively huge amounts, and he's running third!? He really is trying to just buy this election. Sadly, he may do it.
Nets finally call MS for Santorum.
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Mate, no need - he's already pretty much rooted himself.
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What reality am I living in when someone like Santorum actually has a chance at getting the nomination? Is this the future of Republican Presidential politics? Candidates that make Reagan look like a flaming liberal?
I'm not sure if Santorum is to the right on Reagan on economic issues. To be honest I have no idea if Santorum knows what his economic positions are.
WRT Jesus, Santorum does seem hard right to Reagan, but then again I don't really remember how often Reagan talked about God. I'm guessing that means he didn't try to shove it down people's throats.
Reagan beat Carter because inflation was out of control and the Iran hostages thing, and then in '84 the economy was better and Mondale made a campaign pledge to raise taxes, which was a stupid thing to say, so it's hard to know just how popular Reagan really was.
Reagan didn't campaign on dismantling government agencies though. That's the new thing with Republicans -- actually get rid of, instead of cut back, on social programs.
No problem. Someone* will tell him what his positions are later, if he wins the nomination.
* the guys paying for his campaign
Because of the proportional delegate allocations and the fact that Gingrich won't quit the race, Santorum really didn't do much more than tread water with his narrow wins last night.
That said, it really looks pretty bad for Romney that he came in THIRD behind the no-account Gingrich at this stage of the primary season.
Arguably, isn't this how the primaries should work, with every state having an impact until the end rather than super Tuesday actually deciding everything, and it just being fait accompli from there on?
What I can't help thinking is - if he has this much trouble mustering core support in his own party to defeat the likes of Gingerich and Santorum, how likely is it that he really stands a chance against Obama in November?
Obviously, it is a different electorate and the economy plays its part, but still... Gingerich is a joke candidate, and Santorum has no organization worth speaking of. In November, he'll be going up against an incumbent president with almost limitless money and who is a much more capable campaigner than either of those two. Observing from the outside, it is hard to understand how this is even a contest.
What is even worse for Romney, if Gingrich wasn't backed by some sugar daddies and had to drop out, Santorum would likely pick up all those votes and have absolutely blown Romney out of the water.
Of course, I think no one should be surprised that a guy who is hardcore religious right would beat a super rich guy (thought they are both wealthy, Romney just flaunts it more) from the northeast in the deep south.
Has Romney managed to win any states in the Deep South yet? Besides Florida (which, culturally, doesn't seem to really count).
The vast majority of people voting for santorum or even gingrich aren't going to vote for obama though obviously. That doesn't mean they will turn out, but The Cult of Santorum is pretty firmly convinced that Obama is at war with Good Old Religion so i doubt their turnout will be too low.
Mitt "top 1%" Romney might have no positions of his own and might be the stereotypical politician, but at least he doesn't hate religion (although this might change if santorum changes the focus of his attack ads later on).
"Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum would be a powerful team against Barack Obama," the adviser said in an email late Tuesday."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/14/politi...ies/index.html
One could only hope.
No. The closest he's come is Virginia, which is barely "South" and certainly not "Deep South". Plus, he and Ron Paul were the only ones on the ballot.
Louisiana is next up on the 24th of this month, and then North Carolina, Arkansas and Texas are all holding their primaries in May.
Interesting. For the most part I'm not sure how significant that is; it's not like there's any chance of Mississippi or Alabama going for Obama in the general election. On the other hand, his relative weakness in that region might have an effect down the ballot.
I am not sure if Romney's appeal in the Deep South compared to other Republicans matters...it isn't like Obama is going to win Alabama and Mississippi in November, even if the Republicans nominated Kodos. On the other hand, as Andrew Sullivan pointed out in his analysis, the fact that Romney can't even take a close second with his massive money advantage doesn't bode well for excitement among people he does need to vote for him in more marginal states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida.
I think Reagan was farther left than many people think he was. His hero worship by many in the right are by people who weren't around when he was president.
Ah -- Have we finally reached the point where folks on the Right are repudiating Reagan for not being conservative enough? Delightful.
Back in the Reagan days I still voted democrat. Although I came to respect Reagan the Iran-Contra thing drove me over the edge. However the Saint Reagan thing does glorify him for attributes he never had.
Hell, I voted for Clinton in the 90's. :)
That's really my thought. If there is this little traction and interest for him even in his own party, how is he ever going to muster enough interest among those voters who matter? Especially given that the message he is going to need to sell to them is 100% at odds with all the crap he is spouting at the moment.
Well - if nothing else, it is going to be interesting to see what he actually will say when the real elections come around.
True, but turnout matters a great deal. Although it looks like turnout in Mississippi might have been up a bit from 2008, in general the voter turnout in the primaries has been lower in most states (the few states that have had higher turnout generally have "open" primaries where Democrats and independents can vote too). If Romney cannot gin up a modicum of support in his party's "gimme" states, then how likely is he to be able to deliver Ohio or Pennsylvania in the general election?
Yeah, the amount of money he's spending compared to Santorum or Gingrich (or even both together) is just silly. And his ROI is woefully low for a guy who was supposed to waltz into the nomination.
And again, he's up against a bunch of walking failures here. Ron Paul is only in the race to keep his ideology on the table (and since he's failed to do that, he really ought to leave). Gingrich is literally in the race to sell more books and drive up his speaking fees -- maybe we can be impressed with his capitalist motives, but Romney should not be contending with the guy in ANY race, much less one for the POTUS. And Santorum is simply unelectable after his theological bent is reveled -- which it has been! For months!
A close race is justified when you have two worthy competitors and the public realistically needs more time to decide: Clinton and Obama; McCain and Romney; Ford and Reagan.
This is not such a race.
The Republican really, really value Latino voters, and are not shy about speaking out on ways they can improve themselves: Santorum tells Puerto Rico that they'll need to learn English in order to be a state.
"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language. There are other states with more than one language such as Hawaii but to be a state of the United States, English has to be the principal language."
However, the U.S. Constitution does not designate an official language, nor is there a requirement that a territory adopt English as its primary language in order to become a state.
Congress would have to give approval if Puerto Rico is to become the 51st state. Although Congress has considered numerous proposals to make English the official U.S. language, none has ever passed.
However, some states have passed their own laws declaring English the official language, including heavily Hispanic Florida.
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