People are only going to explain this to you so many times. Both the public and private sector are big heterogenous groups encompassing many different jobs. Some that have become less labour intensive, some not.
I don't imagine there are a lot of people outside of the Rand Paul mailing list who suppose that the public sector is supposed to shrink on a decade-by-decade basis as policemen, teachers, public health workers and so on are all replaced by cyborgs.
EDIT: And please consolidate your replies into single posts where practical. It's a general web forum etiquette thing, whether or not it's a rule here.
Social Security employs about 1/2 the number of workers that it did in 1960 yet there are far more people on Social Secutiry now than in 1960.Originally Posted by Timex
Government also enjoys the luxury of creating jobs by legislation as opposed to a need that people are requesting and are willing to pay for.
Requesting via what, the National Suggestion Box?
Or via, you know, elections, which produce, wait let me think, the government?
Maybe it's not practical in the forums you frequent but in the ones I have it makes it easier to see what you are replying too when someone jumps all over the place in their replies. Plus I needed to get to 50 post to even quote a link.
Do I ask you if you are on the Daily Kos mailing list? So why would you imply I am on someones mailing list?
You mean like the most recent elections where those advocating a much smaller government won gobs of seats?
It's practical here too, which is why it's mostly what people do. If X, Y and Z are all being replied to, you just quote the first one and then use quote tags and copy-paste for the rest. Anyway, it's just a suggestion.Maybe it's not practical in the forums you frequent but in the ones I have it makes it easier to see what you are replying too when someone jumps all over the place in their replies. Plus I needed to get to 50 post to even quote a link.
Do I ask you if you are on the Daily Kos mailing list? So why would you imply I am on someones mailing list?
I am on the Daily Kos mailing list. "People on the Rand Paul mailing list" was just a facetious way of saying "particularly zany libertarian ideologues." Nothing personal, I just think it's a deranged political movement.Do I ask you if you are on the Daily Kos mailing list? So why would you imply I am on someones mailing list.
I will try to figure it out. Most likely you'll be BEGGING me to go back to my old way though, I can screw up boiling water!
The party which exploded the size of government upwards got a bunch of seats, last I checked.
Sadly, the smaller-government party (that's the Democrats, for those of you in the wings), which happens to be tax-and-spend, lost a bunch of seats to a big-government, borrow-and-give-to-the-rich party (that'd be the Republicans).
Shit happens when people don't want to inform themselves, and when entertainment outlets masquerading as news sources create a false context for political decisions.
I think you're straining credibility a bit by describing Democrats as "the smaller-government party."
In comparison to what? The Republicans?
In comparison to the Republicans, they absolutely are the smaller-government party. Not by enough, but the whole framing of Republicans as being smaller-government is total bullshit.
Really? Can you show me the time when either of these parties have shrunk government?
Can you show me the time when the Republicans grew the government less than the Democrats?
Smaller is a relative term, you know.
Apparently some of them are for a small government. At least that is what they ran on to get elected.
So you believe the claims of Republicans over their actions, but hold the Democrats to a different standard?
Fascinating.
Look at your watch.
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Can you point out where I said anything remotely like that? Heck I'll even take a tin foil hat type connection!
Ah, you're right, my bad. You didn't say you actually believed the Republicans' lies that they were, in fact, in favor of smaller government.
I apologize.
The little multi-quote button (quotation mark and a plus sign) to the immediate right of the "Quote" button helps immensely. Click that on each post you want to respond to, then click "Quote" on the last one. That'll automatically quote each of the source posts, saving you copy/paste hassles.
I believed them as much as I believed in Hope and Change, Country First, The Original Maverick and It's All Bush's Fault.
How about you, which one did you believe?
Thanks. I will do my best to not screw it up!
I believed that the possibility of getting some meaningful reform into the system was better than the certainty of of getting no such reforms.
While I still believe that McCain would have been a worse President than Obama, I'm disappointed that I was right, and that none of the top four meaningful reforms I thought possible will happen.
It's tough being right, sometimes.
Pretty much the only solid platform.
Maybe then, not now.
Don't they all promise possibilities?
Sure, but if I promise you a dollar and a homeless bum off the street promises you a million, you're going to discount the latter and possibly believe the former.
Not if they are one and the same!
Don't take that wrong. I'm not saying you're a homeless bum or that you wouldn't give me a dollar. It's just that there hasn't been much difference between the two partys in the past 50 years or so.
Pffft. Hello? Tie color, anyone? You got served.
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Is there any way possible to find out of Eric C. Heartle or his brother David contributed to the Republican campaign's in Wisconsin?
They were pushing for government deregulation at the same time they were producing bacterial infected alcohol wipes and "sterile" sanitary products. CEO Eric Heurtle refused to cooperate with the FDA, refused to clean things up, refused to shut the plant down - so it took U.S. Marshalls to come in and shut them down.
Lord knows how many people they've killed and it being attributed to other maladies.
http://www.huliq.com/10473/h-p-indus...al-us-marshals
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm247658.htm
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AboutFD.../UCM249480.pdf
Okay, jesus fucking christ. Are you planning on wading into EVERY single thread and filling it up with meaningless generalities and platitudes? We get it: you're not a "thinker" kind of guy. That's fine, but trust us when we say we'll remember and you don't need to remind us once every five minutes.
For the record, I already think you should go back to your old way of posting: on different forums.
Government responsibilities are in general going to have more of Baumol than private sector jobs; the government does very little manufacturing and technology by comparison to the private sector because most of its responsibilities are service, unautomatable, and little productivity gains are available from adding capital. Education is a poster child for this.
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