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    Figurin' and using numbers, without a license!

    Cox and his North Raleigh neighbors are lobbying city and state officials to add traffic signals at two intersections as part of a planned widening of Falls of Neuse Road.
    After an engineering consultant hired by the city said that the signals were not needed, Cox and the North Raleigh Coalition of Homeowners’ Associations responded with a sophisticated analysis of their own…
    The eight-page document with maps, diagrams and traffic projections was offered to buttress their contention that signals will be needed at the Falls of Neuse at Coolmore Drive intersection and where the road meets Tabriz Point / Lake Villa Way.
    It did not persuade Kevin Lacy, chief traffic engineer for the state DOT, to change his mind about the project. Instead, Lacy called on a state licensing agency, the N.C. Board of Examiners for Engineers and Surveyors, to investigate Cox…
    Cox has not been accused of claiming that he is an engineer. But Lacy says he filed the complaint because the report “appears to be engineering-level work” by someone who is not licensed as a professional engineer…
    Lacy said he had told the group last year that it should hire an engineer to make its case. He said he was surprised to see engineering-quality work in a report that was not signed by a licensed professional. “When you start applying the principles for trip generation and route assignment, applying judgments from engineering documents and national standards, and making recommendations,” that’s technical work a licensed engineer would do, Lacy said.
    There oughta be a law against that kinda figurin' without proper approvals! Oh, wait.. There is!

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    If Cox is found to have practiced engineering without a license, Ritter said, the likely action would be a letter telling him not to do it again.

    Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/02/...#ixzz1D28bD0Dh
    Nooooooooooo!

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    He was probably exposed to element flashcards as a kid.

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    I think the idea behind engineering licensing is (being charitable) to prevent people from committing fraud and having subpar work cause safety issues. Of course presenting work to a city official, they should have a person (or team) that can properly asses it, regardless of licensing.

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    Yeah, engineering licensing itself isn't all that controversial, but a layperson isn't going to be aware of all the proper requirements, so an "um, that's not how it's done" letter is appropriate. They just need to hire their own engineer to back it up and take on the responsibility. If they can't find one, well...maybe their numbers aren't as solid as they think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugitive View Post
    Yeah, engineering licensing itself isn't all that controversial, but a layperson isn't going to be aware of all the proper requirements, so an "um, that's not how it's done" letter is appropriate. They just need to hire their own engineer to back it up and take on the responsibility. If they can't find one, well...maybe their numbers aren't as solid as they think...
    Or maybe they just don't have that much money?

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    as long as they didn't actually call themselves engineers nobody should give a flying fuck

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