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    Inside the "mind" of the AZ shooter

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread593100/pg1

    He is the OP, Erad3. His argument is that it is too cold and airless in space for human life, therefore the space shuttle mission have all been faked in front of a green screen.

    Does schizophrenia make one retarded as well?

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    Opinions like that are not terribly uncommon on that site. Besides, some people have mental problems. It happens.

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    Recent events cast all the posts mocking the guy in a different light, I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datter View Post
    Opinions like that are not terribly uncommon on that site. Besides, some people have mental problems. It happens.
    Read not just the opinion, but his actual posts. It is like he is struggling not only with his thoughts, but he seems to be unable to form coherent sentences. Was he an idiot before the mental illness set in, or is he one because of it?

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    Who would've thought that the Arizona shooter was crazy? A little unbalanced perhaps, but crazy? Naw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114 View Post
    Read not just the opinion, but his actual posts. It is like he is struggling not only with his thoughts, but he seems to be unable to form coherent sentences.
    I did read them (or as much as I cared to anyway) and your summary seems accurate. He does in fact seem to be struggling with his own thoughts, and also having trouble being coherent. Given his later actions, I could certainly see mental illness coming into play in his trial.

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    Was he an idiot before the mental illness set in, or is he one because of it?
    You fall down right there.

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    If the design of the NASA Space Shuttle keeps the black body temperature of −454 °F from the outside orbit then the NASA Space Shuttle is at a temperature for human life.
    The NASA Space Shuttle isn’t at a temperature for human life.
    Hence, the design of the NASA Space Shuttle doesn’t keep the black body temperature of −454 °F from the outside orbit.

    If the air supply supports the NASA Space Shuttle mission for the time in orbit then the crew is able to breathe with the correct amount of oxygen for the time in orbit.
    The crew is not able to breathe with the correct amount of oxygen for the time in orbit.
    Consequently, the air supply doesn’t support the NASA Space Shuttle mission for the time in orbit

    If the crew of the NASA mission uses a green screen then they are able to fake the mission.
    The crew of the NASA mission uses a green screen.
    Therefore, they are able to fake the mission.
    I find it interesting, his thought process. Or lack of one.

    OK fine clearly he is crazy. If you want to leave it at that, whatever. I found it an interesting glimpse into the reasoning process of someone with a mental illness that caused him to become a psychotic killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datter View Post
    I did read them (or as much as I cared to anyway) and your summary seems accurate. He does in fact seem to be struggling with his own thoughts, and also having trouble being coherent. Given his later actions, I could certainly see mental illness coming into play in his trial.



    You fall down right there.

    Meaning what? I'm wrong? About what? That he's an idiot, or that he was an idiot before he got sick, or that the illness caused him to become an idiot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114 View Post
    I found it an interesting glimpse into the reasoning process of someone with a mental illness that caused him to become a psychotic killer.
    No, you didn't find it an interesting glimpse into anything. You heard about the guys posts on ATS and thought you'd be the first to share it here complete with the "come see what this idiot retard has to say!" in order to win friends and influence people on QT3. It's no surprise the man might have some issues, but mental disorder is not a side show.

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    Meaning what? I'm wrong? About what? That he's an idiot, or that he was an idiot before he got sick, or that the illness caused him to become an idiot?
    I mean that questioning whether a person who is possibly suffering from a severe mental disorder is an "idiot" or "retard", is a pointless exercise. You posted this to be the one who posted it.
    Last edited by datter; 01-11-2011 at 03:59 PM. Reason: clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114 View Post
    Inside the "mind" of the AZ shooter
    Invariably, there are always people who want to know why someone did something terrible.

    He was ill and did not get the help he needed.

    Digging much further, I think, either leaves folks frustrated or brings them that much closer to madness. Takes one to know one, and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datter View Post
    No, you didn't find it an interesting glimpse into anything. You heard about the guys posts on ATS and thought you'd be the first to share it here complete with the "come see what this idiot retard has to say!" in order to win friends and influence people on QT3. It's no surprise the man might have some issues, but mental disorder is not a side show.

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    I mean that questioning whether a person who is possibly suffering from a severe mental disorder is an "idiot" or "retard", is a pointless exercise. You posted this to be the one who posted it.

    I did what now?

    Don't tell me what I do or no not find interesting. How is this thread going to win me friends here? Are you serious with this?

    Let me ask you, why do you post here? Please, I need a valid reason to make a post. You have to help me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114 View Post
    It is like he is struggling not only with his thoughts, but he seems to be unable to form coherent sentences. Was he an idiot before the mental illness set in, or is he one because of it?
    I'm sure you're just stirring up shit but in the unlikely event that you aren't I'll bite. It's very common for people who are mentally ill to not only have problems with their thought processes but to have difficulty forming coherent sentences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warning View Post
    I'm sure you're just stirring up shit but in the unlikely event that you aren't I'll bite. It's very common for people who are mentally ill to not only have problems with their thought processes but to have difficulty forming coherent sentences.
    It was a real question. Did you read his writing? I did some research and found some journal entries from someone with schizophrenia:

    I- I just don't want to be a Human anymore!

    We are such an evil people! Our glory, our ambition, our struggles are nullified; all is for naught, for we are inherently vile! Who has turned us? Was it you, Azazel? Have you planted this seed, with your vanity and whorishness? Could it have been you, Mephistopheles, using us unwittingly? Or you, Iehovah, you yourself, with your war against Ba'al?

    It was certainly not Ioakim! He is but a pawn in all of this, a victim, he is going to die for you all! And where shall you cast his piece?

    ----
    Infection continues. Arm is yellow on underside. Jaw locking. Taking more penicillin, taking ibuprofen, increasing fluids.
    ----

    They try to trick me, try to rob me, try to make me turn vanilla- but it's real, and I won't, and I'll hang on to my thread.

    I woke up with gashes in my arm. Claws had dug deep into me. Were they human fingers? If they were, they were working with some fervor. I'm confused. I wore long sleeves. Oh God, what have I become?

    But I continue with greater fire, maintaining my regimen. Drinking naught but water and tea, eating naught but fruit and bread. Studying art, language, literature, botany, and religion. Changing my guilt and desire for my own undoing by punishing myself with intense physical regimens.

    Some day I will be great. And until that day, I cannot be destroyed.

    A, T, C, and G. One of those hosed me up, and I'm betting on G, the crazy bastard.
    Clearly the writer is having trouble parsing reality into something his mind can make sense of, but the prose is still somewhat coherent. Jared's is like trying to walk through deep mud.

    And I did not mean to offend anyone with this thread, it was a real question and I did in fact find it interesting to read his posts.

    And I feel bad about the girl who lost her life, and the rest of his victims. It is horrible what happened.

    At least this isn't a "HA! He wasn't a teabagger you libtard" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114 View Post
    I did what now?

    Don't tell me what I do or no not find interesting. How is this thread going to win me friends here? Are you serious with this?

    Let me ask you, why do you post here? Please, I need a valid reason to make a post. You have to help me.
    • You posted this to be the one to post it, along with the spirit of "come see the idiot retard!"
    • I will tell you exactly what I like, you can listen or not. That's up to you.
    • It is not.
    • Yes.
    • I post on this forum because I like the people who contribute to it.
    • You don't need a valid reason to make a post (google up "datter+shirt" for an example), but having a point beyond reveling in the "idiocy" of a mentally disturbed individual who just murdered several people might be wise.
    • I do not have to help you, not any more than I already have anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datter View Post
    • You posted this to be the one to post it, along with the spirit of "come see the idiot retard!"
    • I will tell you exactly what I like, you can listen or not. That's up to you.
    • It is not.
    • Yes.
    • I post on this forum because I like the people who contribute to it.
    • You don't need a valid reason to make a post (google up "datter+shirt" for an example), but having a point beyond reveling in the "idiocy" of a mentally disturbed individual who just murdered several people might be wise.
    • I do not have to help you, not any more than I already have anyway.
    You are one snotty motherfucker, you know that? And if you don't like my threads for whatever idiotic reason you tell yourself, then stay out of them, okay? If I need your "help" with anything you'll be the first to know.

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    I haven't read a single post of yours before this, so I can't comment on whether I like your threads in general or not. This one, not so much.

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    Titan against a titan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datter View Post
    I haven't read a single post of yours before this, so I can't comment on whether I like your threads in general or not. This one, not so much.
    Well I'll save you some time then.

    Get out.

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    Bunnies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKeil View Post
    Titan against a titan.
    Damnit, I was just about to post that same line.

    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114
    Well I'll save you some time then.

    Get out.
    I'll do what I like thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKeil View Post
    Titan against a titan.
    I was thinking more "cripple fight".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylon View Post
    I was thinking more "cripple fight".
    South Park. Hilarious.

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    I thought that was a rather mild exchange by internet standards. Anyway, thread is hopelessly derailed at this point, thanks for that datter.

    This thread is now about smiling women eating salad alone.


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    The latest internet meme: Way funnier than a South Park reference.

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    At least it is fresh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSys114 View Post
    At least it is fresh...
    The salad, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKeil View Post
    The latest internet meme: Way funnier than a South Park reference.
    A dead crab: way funnier than Matt Keil.

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