Reply With QuoteSo Steve Young is saying Grossman will be a "Top 10 QB" by the end of the year. Top 10 in years old, right?
Basically, what it boils down to is that the Colts aren't going to go anywhere with Collins, Panter OR Gerrard, so why bother spending the extra dough for no real benefit.Originally Posted by Sarkus
The players may not be in the "Suck for Luck" sweepstakes, but the management is probably already thinking that way.
So Steve Young is saying Grossman will be a "Top 10 QB" by the end of the year. Top 10 in years old, right?
I sincerely believe that Rex Grossman will be a Top 10 NFC East QB by the end of the year.
What's so complex about it? Get the team up to the line of scrimmage with the play you called in the huddle, do a fake count, look at what the defense is giving you, change the play with a lot of hand-waving and shouting, throw the ball to Dallas Clark or Reggie Wayne or Austin Collie or Pierre Garcon. Duh; anybody can do that.
It's a next level offense. You can't teach that to just anybody.
I think I'd rather have Marc Colombo over Scott. Seriously. Of course, now that Scott is hurt, the Steelers will be starting perhaps the worst backup tackle in the league, Trai Essucks. A rookie on one side and Essucks on the other....Ben is gonna get killed.
NFL Game Rewind, I'm torn. On the one hand, I want to see Blaine Gabbert's first start. On the other hand, it's Carolina vs. Jacksonville. On the one hand, Carolina's had a crazy offense in the first two weeks. On the other hand, Jim Mora is calling the game.
But on the one hand...
I love terrible weather in football games. I'll watch it tonight!
Apparently Vick is hypersensitive:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...bunch-of-bull/
Well, apparently they think they can teach it to Dan Orlovsky or Brodie Croyle since they will probably sign one of them this week.
Last edited by Sarkus; 09-27-2011 at 11:07 AM.
They complain because they are in Philly and that's what Philly people do. :)
In 2008 Texans rookie running back Steve Slaton ran for 1282 yards, a huge upgrade over Ron Dayne the previous season. In 2009 Slaton still lead the team in rushing, but was slowed by injuries. And then last year Arian Foster had his monster 1600+ yard season. Ben Tate leads the team so far this year.
Slaton was cut by the Texans today. Pretty crazy sometimes how things turn in the NFL.
And Arian Foster only got his opportunity last year because of Ben Tate injury. How ironic Tate is getting his chance to reclaim the spot due to a Foster injury.
I think the lesson that everyone learned from the Broncos in the late '90s is that running backs are really pretty interchangeable, and that only a very few ultra-awesome guys (Barry Sanders, say) can actually consistently outperform a random replacement by significant amounts.
When you've got a team that's getting decent running yards year after year, with different running backs, you've got a team that has a great offensive line.
What's interesting is that McFadden's runs were both enabled by the WR blocking he got as he entered the Jet's secondary. Apparently the Raider WR's work on run blocking now. Who knew?
Looks like they're going with Orlovsky.
I'm sure that will work out marvelously for them.
He's better than Croyle!
(And now Talisker and I have the dumbest of all sports fight - the battle over which of our teams' horrible backup quarterbacks was worse.)
Yeah, I love that Raiders play full time. Extremely fun to watch. I love Hue Jackson.
Damned by the faintest praise possible. Also both are better than Curtis Painter. I think I'm better than Curtis Painter.
I don't think Orlovsky is legendarily bad or anything. But yeah, I don't think we're looking at the second coming of Brady or anything.
He was picked up today by the Dolphins.
Bad Quarterback League anyone?
You be nice to Painter. He is going to light it up this week! /me smokes more crack
Go for 2, Dan.
It's been my opinion for a while that Curtis Painter has for several years held one of the greatest jobs in pro football history. I think he's a guy who probably isn't anything close to an NFL-quality QB but has been picking up a regular paycheck and praying weekly that Peyton never gets hurt so no one ever finds out.
From that Bad Quarterback League link aboveI chuckled. Probably even sniggered.While in sports bars across America, the Bengals-49ers game was relegated to the dusty Standard Definition TV outside the bathroom, BQBLers were locked in and hoping for the worst. Alex Smith facing Andy Dalton — what could go right?
Hey, if Orlovsky was good enough to play for the Texans last year*, then he's good enough for the Colts. Amiright?
* where he got no snaps.
Some crazy NFL passing numbers:
The NFL record for 300+ yard games by QBs after three weeks was 21. This year we had 33. Nine QBs are averaging more then 300 yards a game so far, and five of them are on pace to break Dan Marino's record of 5084 in 1984.
Tom Brady is on pace for over 7000 yards passing. When he passes for another 600 yards or so in the next couple of weeks, he will exceed Steve Grogan's numbers from all of 1976, a year when the Patriots were a very good 11-3.
Drew Brees, Cam Newton, Phillip Rivers, and Matthew Stafford are the other QBs on pace to break Marino's record, but they are "only" charting out to numbers in the 5200 to 5600 range.
So what does this mean for their teams? Not a Superbowl win if history is a guide. On the top 100 single season passing yardage list of all time, only four of those QBs lead their team to victory at the Superbowl.
I think this is one of those trends that you can't reliably use past performance to measure. The NFL has undergone a complete one-eighty and become a quarterback league instead of a running-back dominant league. You can list 'feature backs' on one hand, it's all about running-back-by-committee now. Still that is pretty shocking that only 4 out of 100 in the past have won it all when you think about it.
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