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    So is the ball carrier allowed to facemask or what? I already complained about it once in the Lions game, and then later that game the receiver, after the catch, literally reached up under the defender's facemask and shoved him by his chin. No flag. Then in the later game yet another receiver running with the ball grabs the GB defender by the facemask and shoves him, no flag.

    Of is it just that the refs aren't calling shit at all? Tillman is on top of the pile throwing punches into the pile--he clearly threw two punches, and the only reason his third didn't land is that a defender grabbed his arm to stop him.

    No penalty /boggle

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    There was an obvious face mask to Manning earlier today. The refs were behind the play and couldn't see it.

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    Are the Raiders always this boring?

    Great game against Philly. I never expect the Giants to win, and following that second quarter I was frustrated, but what a great win.

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    Kenny Britt out for the year, having torn both his ACL and MCL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheesyPoof View Post
    Are the Raiders always this boring?
    Um, what? :) Sure glad the Jets brought Cromartie. He's really helped us out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorini View Post
    Um, what? :) Sure glad the Jets brought Cromartie. He's really helped us out.
    Well, it was pretty boring until I posted. You're welcome.

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    When was the last time the Bills or the Lions were 3-0, let alone at the same time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woolen Horde View Post
    When was the last time the Bills or the Lions were 3-0, let alone at the same time?
    1980, the Lions individually and both teams together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woolen Horde View Post
    When was the last time the Bills or the Lions were 3-0, let alone at the same time?
    I have a soft spot in my heart for the Bills. The last time the Bills played in a playoff game it was the Music City Miracle (January 8th, 2000). That's a hell of a hangover.

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    Go KC! Go KC!

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    I find most of the throwback unis to be absolutely hideous, ditto a lot of the alternate jerseys that aren't technically throwbacks. I think with teams that are really iconic like the Cowboys, Packers, Bears, Steelers, etc. it's that much worse. The Jets are probably the worst offenders.

    That said, I think the Panthers' best look is their alternate electric blue jerseys.

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    I may have just seen the single dumbest play in the history of football. It was so impossibly dumb, if I was the owner, I might fire the owner tonight just on principle.

    The Chargers are leading 20-17 with under 2 minutes left. The Chiefs have no timeouts, and it's 4th and inches at the 33. The Chargers opt to go for it -- which I have no problem with -- but with the clock running, they run the play WITH 20 SECONDS ON THE PLAY CLOCK.

    They don't get the first down, and they've just gifted the Chiefs with an extra 20 seconds to move into field goal range, which is just one of the all time stupidest things I've ever seen in 35 years of watching football. Why wouldn't you run the clock down under 5 or at least 10 seconds? How can you possibly be that dumb?

    I've been watching the Chargers for the last few years, and it's my opinion that with the talent they have on that team, if they had a real head coach, they'd have at least made it to 1 or 2 Super Bowls in the last 6-7 years. It is no coincidence that this team looks sluggish out of the gate every year, that they constantly make awful special teams mistakes, and lose games to bad teams. They're going to win this one thanks to an INT, but I'd just fire Norv Turner and find a real coach ASAP.

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    Wow, a great Raider win. I listened to it on the audio pass. Can't wait to see it on Rewind.

    Dare I hope we can beat NE next week??

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    I'd like to see that nifty fake punt return by Hester again, because damn, judging from the views they showed in the replay, I certainly couldn't see the hold that negated Knox's runback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggo View Post
    I may have just seen the single dumbest play in the history of football. It was so impossibly dumb, if I was the owner, I might fire the owner tonight just on principle.

    The Chargers are leading 20-17 with under 2 minutes left. The Chiefs have no timeouts, and it's 4th and inches at the 33. The Chargers opt to go for it -- which I have no problem with -- but with the clock running, they run the play WITH 20 SECONDS ON THE PLAY CLOCK.

    They don't get the first down, and they've just gifted the Chiefs with an extra 20 seconds to move into field goal range, which is just one of the all time stupidest things I've ever seen in 35 years of watching football. Why wouldn't you run the clock down under 5 or at least 10 seconds? How can you possibly be that dumb?
    This is how the Norv laughs at you.

    I've been watching the Chargers for the last few years, and it's my opinion that with the talent they have on that team, if they had a real head coach, they'd have at least made it to 1 or 2 Super Bowls in the last 6-7 years. It is no coincidence that this team looks sluggish out of the gate every year, that they constantly make awful special teams mistakes, and lose games to bad teams. They're going to win this one thanks to an INT, but I'd just fire Norv Turner and find a real coach ASAP.
    They had a real head coach right before Norv; I've still never heard a good reason for getting rid of Schotty and then hiring Norv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Clements View Post
    This is how the Norv laughs at you.


    They had a real head coach right before Norv; I've still never heard a good reason for getting rid of Schotty and then hiring Norv.
    I have no idea why the Chargers felt Norv was a good hire. He failed miserably in DC, and had plenty of time to learn how to be a head coach there. Instead, his teams continually did stupid things, and committed egregious error after error. Nice to see how that pattern hasn't changed.

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    Crazy NFL predictions:
    AFC End of Year Seeds:
    1. Patriots
    2. Steelers
    3. Raiders
    4. Texans
    5. WC- Ravens
    6. WC- Bills (haha Jets)

    NFC End of Year Seeds
    1. Packers
    2. Saints
    3. Eagles (barely going to get in)
    4. 49ers (7-9 maybe)
    5. Lions
    6. Buccaneers

    Wild Card Games
    Ravens over Texans
    Raiders over Bills
    Lions over 49ers
    Eagles over Buccaneers

    Divisional Games:
    Raiders over Steelers
    Bills over Patriots
    Saints over Lions (best game of the season, ends with Matt Stafford leaving the game to deliver multiple babies)
    Packers over Eagles

    Conference Games
    Raiders over Bills
    Saints over Packers

    Superbowl
    Raiders over Saints

    BELIEVE

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsam View Post
    Hasselbeck has thrown to eleven different receivers today. Eleven.

    Philly looks all set to choke. "Dream Team", eh?
    I am loving Matt's renaissance in Tennessee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Clements View Post
    They had a real head coach right before Norv; I've still never heard a good reason for getting rid of Schotty and then hiring Norv.
    My thoughts exactly. The best I could tell, there was a lot of friction between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith, and so after a 14-2 season, they fired Schott and brought in Turner, I guess so they'd have someone more obedient? I really think the Chargers would have had a much better last few years if they still had Schott or any number of other coaches instead of Turner.

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    Nawid, whatever you're smoking you need to pass that shit around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggo View Post
    My thoughts exactly. The best I could tell, there was a lot of friction between Schottenheimer and AJ Smith, and so after a 14-2 season, they fired Schott and brought in Turner, I guess so they'd have someone more obedient? I really think the Chargers would have had a much better last few years if they still had Schott or any number of other coaches instead of Turner.
    The justification for firing Schottenheimer was that he wasn't winning in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffd View Post
    The justification for firing Schottenheimer was that he wasn't winning in the playoffs.
    No, that's not what they said. Bold is mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chargers CEO/Pres Dean Spanos
    Events of the last month have now convinced me that it is not possible for our organization to function at a championship level under the current structure. On the contrary, and in the plainest possible language, we have a dysfunctional situation here. Today I am resolving that situation once and for all.

    ...

    ...the process of dealing with these coaching changes convinced me that we simply could not move forward with such dysfunction between our head coach and general manager. In short, this entire process over the last month convinced me beyond any doubt that I had to act to change this untenable situation and create an environment where everyone at Charger Park would be pulling in the same direction and working at a championship level.

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    Huh I guess my memory sucks. Either way it was a ridiculously stupid move.

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    Dysfunction is highly overrated in sports teams. There have been plenty of championship teams full of guys who hatde each other, but, goddamn, they strapped it on at game time and got the job done.

    Turner strikes me as one of those failing upward coaches, like Mora Jr. He was crap in DC. He was crap at Oakland. I totally view San Diego's failings under Turner as proper karma.

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    Wow, Roflsberger is giving it away.

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    So the Colts lead 13-10. The capable arm of Kerry Collins shall lead them to field goal attempts, leave the touchdowns to the defense.

    I really like Tomlin, but damn it's fun to see Pittsburg suck.

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    Seems like Tomlin's team just has too much arrogance. They should not be losing to this team even with the turnovers. I don't think Tomlin is arrogant but they seem to want to dismiss their opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorini View Post
    Seems like Tomlin's team just has too much arrogance. They should not be losing to this team even with the turnovers. I don't think Tomlin is arrogant but they seem to want to dismiss their opposition.
    I agree with you, but most NFL teams would approach this Indy team expecting an easy win. Hell, I didn't expect the Colts to grow a spine and play defense like kamikaze maniacs tonight either. Maybe they've accepted that Saint Peyton isn't going to be there this year to bail their asses out, so they better take care of their own business. Or maybe the Steelers just aren't that good, they sure looked like wusses against Baltimore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robsam View Post
    Or maybe the Steelers just aren't that good, they sure looked like wusses against Baltimore.
    They definitely look like they've lost a step.

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    So we may see Painter yet.

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