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    I was just thinking that. Maybe it took a full week of lobbying before they signed him just to shut Palmer up. I predict it won't help Palmer at all, because familiarity matters less than being old and washed up.

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    Don't count your chickens and all, but guess who may be upgrading his ticket to the Pats game from upper-level to corner-of-the-endzone seating?

    Since this may be the only time I actually make it to a game in the Brady era, I think I'd be crazy not to upgrade my ticket, right?

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    Makes sense to me!

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    Done.

    Going from this:



    To this:



    The first offers a slightly wider view of the field, but I want to get in close. Both offer transportation to and from the game, plus a barbecue tailgate party (BYOB) before kickoff.

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    I've had both upper and lower deck seats Om, and the difference is staggering. Upgrade.

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    Relevant new meme.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallapuctus View Post
    I've had both upper and lower deck seats Om, and the difference is staggering. Upgrade.
    Done. Row 17, here I come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkus View Post
    blah blah blah vikings los angeles lalalala
    Ramsey County decided against the referendum. The ball's back in the state legislature's court; there's some disagreement about how much the state will kick in but the county is on board.

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    But how can they raise taxes? I would think all the Republicans would be against it.

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    County level politics don't really split along party lines.

    The state itself, of course, has all kinds of problems best left to P&R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mightynute View Post
    Relevant new meme.

    This is not a bad idea. The surprise onside kick is one of the more successful gambits a coach can make. Now, trying one with San Diego's special teams might not be the best idea, since they're awful, but overall, a surprise onside kick with a narrow lead early on is not a bad idea.

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    This, however, is dumb.

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    Oh wow, news on the Vikings that I had missed makes me wrong. Boo.

    Apparently the state gov't decided that neither Ramsey County nor Minneapolis can raise their sales tax to pay for a stadium without a popular referendum. Sigh. I'm generally opposed to *any* business soaking the taxpayers for cash, but losing the Vikings would be a huge, huge blow to the Twin Cities and Minnesota in general.

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    The Metrodome will make a lovely parking lot.

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    The constituent molecules currently configured as the Metrodome will be put to better use as literally anything else they could possibly become.

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    Prince will save the Vikings, don't worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam B View Post
    Oh wow, news on the Vikings that I had missed makes me wrong. Boo.

    Apparently the state gov't decided that neither Ramsey County nor Minneapolis can raise their sales tax to pay for a stadium without a popular referendum. Sigh. I'm generally opposed to *any* business soaking the taxpayers for cash, but losing the Vikings would be a huge, huge blow to the Twin Cities and Minnesota in general.
    Yeah, that was what happened yesterday to change things. So now its up to the state legislature to come up with some funding, and they won't call a special session unless they think they have the votes for something. So it gets pretty dicey for Vikings fans now, especially now that the House speaker has come out against a special session this year.

    The sad thing is that the NFL doesn't want that team to move. But its been years and years and meanwhile Minnesota figured out how to build a baseball stadium and a new small dedicated football stadium for the University of Minnesota. So they've made their choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seventimessix View Post
    Prince will save the Vikings, don't worry.
    Are you suggesting there's room for two Purple Jesuses?

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    While I'm not saying Andrew Luck shouldn't be the #1 pick, I do wonder if maybe the hype is getting out of hand. This article indicates that not everyone is convinced he's the second coming of Elway or Peyton Manning, and I kind of agree. For one, at some point the system and talent in Stanford has to be considered in the success Luck has had. Most think that team has more then one NFL caliber offensive lineman and plenty of talent among the receivers. And the success of Jim Harbaugh in San Francisco supports the idea that the system is good as well. Luck undoubtedly has talent, but its perhaps unrealistic to expect early dividends, especially if he ends up on a team like the Dolphins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam B View Post
    Oh wow, news on the Vikings that I had missed makes me wrong. Boo.

    Apparently the state gov't decided that neither Ramsey County nor Minneapolis can raise their sales tax to pay for a stadium without a popular referendum. Sigh. I'm generally opposed to *any* business soaking the taxpayers for cash, but losing the Vikings would be a huge, huge blow to the Twin Cities and Minnesota in general.
    When the Twins were brought up as a possible target for "contraction," the federal government got involved. I swear I remember Senate hearing. I think the Vikings are safe, and are ultimately trying to use the fear of relocation to get tax payers to fund a new stadium.

    Here's a nice write up of teams that are likely targets for an LA move: http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/s...-seven-wonders

    As a Cleveland Browns fan, I think LA can take its stadium and play professional hacky sack there before robbing another region of its history. That being said, the Jaguars appear to be a dead franchise, if only there lease weren't so iron clad.

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    The thing is that there are only two teams that can easily move after this season, where there are no lease or other issues involved: the Vikings and the Chargers. And you have two big money stadium groups in LA ready to sign a deal. So unless you have a strong ownership committment in Minnesota and San Diego to wait around some more after waiting around for years already, you are at risk. Even if the NFL probably wouldn't view either as an ideal relocation situation. In an ideal world the NFL would rather lose a relatively small market instead of a the bigger ones in play here.

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    I think the QB position is one of the harder slots to draft for. Anyway, there have certainly been a lot of first round busts or picks who are no better than journeyman QBs.

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    If the Chargers moved at least it would be easy enough for San Diego fans to go to the games. Maybe instead of naming the team the LA whatevers they could be the Southern California whatevers.

    Anyway, it's getting ridiculous with the stadiums. How can Minnesota and St. Louis afford to build billion dollar stadiums like the bigger city teams are doing? The St. Louis stadium is only about 25 years old, too.

    Edit: Er, the stadium is only about 16 years old! Think about that -- needing to build a new stadium so soon. It's crazy.
    Last edited by Mark Asher; 11-02-2011 at 02:58 PM.

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    And of course the main feature of the stadium for the AEG bid in LA is that it will be 'privately funded'. But of course not really, as the taxpayers will be on the hook for the re-do of the Los Angeles convention center (currently a piece of shit) which will directly support the stadium Now that Al Davis has passed away, there is more likelyhood of the Raiders moving somewhere as Oc stadium apparently is also a piece of shit. Naturally if I have to put up with a team, I'd rather it be the Raiders, but seriously I'd rather not have a team at all.

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    I suspect the NFL wouldn't mind having the Raiders move back to LA now that Al Davis is gone, but thats obviously up to his son and wife to decide so who knows.

    Robiskie ended up with the Jaguars, who put Sims-Walker on IR.

    And Beck was officially sacked 10 times last week? And has 13 sacks in 83 passing attempts? And people thought Grossman (9 sacks, 165 attempts) was bad . . .
    Last edited by Sarkus; 11-02-2011 at 04:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorini View Post
    And of course the main feature of the stadium for the AEG bid in LA is that it will be 'privately funded'. But of course not really, as the taxpayers will be on the hook for the re-do of the Los Angeles convention center (currently a piece of shit) which will directly support the stadium Now that Al Davis has passed away, there is more likelyhood of the Raiders moving somewhere as Oc stadium apparently is also a piece of shit. Naturally if I have to put up with a team, I'd rather it be the Raiders, but seriously I'd rather not have a team at all.
    Just a guess, but I bet there are a lot of tax incentives too. That's lost revenue.

    The NFL is a monopoly. They use that power well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkus View Post
    And Beck was officially sacked 10 times last week? And has 13 sacks in 83 passing attempts? And people thought Grossman (9 sacks, 165 attempts) was bad . . .
    A Skins fan site had a breakdown of the sacks, and it became pretty clear that all but 1 of the sacks really was on Beck. Brutal.

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    Are you pining for the halcyon days of the Sex Cannon yet, Bowyer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omniscia View Post
    Are you pining for the halcyon days of the Sex Cannon yet, Bowyer?
    Not Bowyer, but I'm starting to pine for the days of even a QB like Tony Banks...

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