This thread is much more entertaining than I was expecting it to be.
This thread is much more entertaining than I was expecting it to be.
Well, gang, I know QT3 welcomes creative trolling, but seriously, you guys aren't that creative. Sure the three-on-one tag team idea was novel, and an inverse of the normal troll vs multiple victims relationship, but you never really developed it. Deadpanning the original post was a nice idea, but let down by juvenile flamebait and ad hominem attacks.
RepoMan tried to engage me with a few facts, but spoilt it by a rather pedestrian ad hominem zing at the end of his post, and the fact he just dumped a pile of live ammo at my feet.
Brian Rubin's post was a technicolour yawn of projection and angst that stopped me in my tracks for a few moments (made a mess of my shoes, in fact). Should I have responded, or just let it go as an inconsequential mind fart from a passing drunk? Don't know if I made the right call on that.
Anyway, thanks for the workout, people. It was an experience and gave me some exercise. Not as much as I needed, but on the internet these days we get what we can get. But now, sad to say, my time on this thread is done. The signal-to-noise ratio isn't going to improve until we know more about MS' plans for Flight. At the moment, it seems clear that Flight is just going to be just another whore in GFWL's currently rickety old stable. A pretty front-end (so to speak) to get the tourists in, but nothing much of substance, flight model-wise, with lots of fluff on the side to be sold as a Sims kind of deal. I'll be glad to be proved wrong, but don't expect to be. I'm seriously sorry about that. Seriously serious.
One of the glories of the internet is "everyone's a winner, babe", at least in their own mind. Just ask Rubin. It's the great leveller. Too bad the present level's low enough to give you hypothermia, but there we go. Maybe one day there'll be a exothermic reaction and intelligent life with predominate over the internets. Or we'll just all become superconductors. Who knows? Who cares? Not going to hold my breath. So yeah, high-fives, back-slapping, hurrahs, cheap champagne and Buds all around. Let the victory celebrations commence.
PC over-and-out.
PS: Browsing the Financial Times, as I do occasionally, I came across this article by Gillian Tett (who I somewhat dig, if you know what I mean): "Repo needs a backstop to avoid future crises." So I was thinking, What the hell's that about, bud? Until I realised I'd got it completely out of context.
Wow.
A strawman is an argument. Just one devoid of merit.Originally Posted by Problem Child
See, you keep referring to your original rant as a joke, which would be fine if you hadn't spent your next several points trying (and failing) to defend that joke. You have the distinction of being the least subtle sophist I've ever encountered.Pardon me for typing some stream-of-consciousness off-the-wall post on the hallowed forums of QT3 but I wasn't aware that QT3 posts had to be vetted by you or anyone else for political correctness, logic, bare-metal facts, or even tenuous connection to reality (Exhibit A: Rubins' post above). Perhaps Tom Chick and Unicorn McGriddle should be informed of this and the FAQ updated ASAP.
Neither did I realise it was going to be analysed up the whazoo and held to some exalted standard hitherto unseen on these forums. Now I understand why JeffL started a thread a while back, a self-confessed rant titled no less, *Why I hate GFWL* and then deleted his original post, even though it was already being followed up? Someone changed the rules of netiquette when I wasn't looking?
Taking at face value a comment that was clearly metaphorical, sarcastic and hyperbolic, then attributing opinions to me which I've made clear I don't hold. Well, you are a piece of work. As a writer, you sure have a selective reading comprehension issue.
Pleeeeeeease ... don't lecture me on class. Pot, kettle and all that. To wit:Ad hominem attack. Classy. One might even call it hypocritical. Not me, I'm too nice a guy.
You want to question Jeff's integrity? Seriously, that's the line of attack you want to take? Good luck, buddy.
Here you are, defending your obvious joke again. Sophist.And even in big orgs, some project like GFWL shouldn't take 3 years to get from being avoid at all costs to being half-assed at best. If my sclerotic comment applies to anything in a remotely non-hyperbolic sense, it applies to this project.
Here's the connection I see (stolen from a demotivator poster that I can't find right now):Your problem, Repo, along with Tracy Baker's and JeffL's, is my two-line 'rant' ("ranting all over the place?" Talk about hyperbole!) connecting MS Flight to MS's undeniably erratic history in delivering the goods promised and expressing scepticism touched off some nerve, and you fellows dog-piled. The only connection I can see is that you are directly employed by MS, and might have some link to Mattrick's division, and as freelancers Baker and JeffL figure that one day there might be money made from cozying up to MS and defending their fragile honour.
The only thing that all your failed relationships have in common is you.
Where you see a dog-pile, I see people who actually know what they're talking about correcting your cluelessness.
Are you really going to stand by your accusation that me and Jeff are pandering to MS in some money grab? Jeff is a highly accomplished, highly successful chemical engineer who freelances as a total side gig because he loves to do it and happens to be very good at it. He's also one of the nicest, most professional, and most ethical men you'll ever meet. He worries about MS payola about as much as George Clooney worries about getting a date for the Oscars. As for me, all I can say is fuck you, douchebag, for your lame attempt to defend your inanity by pissing on my fifteen years of working in the tech writing business without taking so much as a dime from any company. You call me a piece of work? Describe yourself as a nice guy? Good luck selling that shit. I'd tell you to return to your lurk hole, but it really doesn't matter at this point because you've made it so evident you're worth ignoring that you've already done my work for me. Thanks!
Thank you for contacting Turing Corp., and your interest in the personality: Problem Child
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Preliminary analysis indicates that it has been mindfucked repeatedly.
Multiple out_of_bounds and divide_by_zero input errors are present.
In addition, Problem Child has been infected with the HOT_CHOCOLATE virus.
Status: Self-inflicted, Mild, Contained.
In addition, Problem Child has been infected with the MS_FUD virus.
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Clever fail. Just epic clever fail.
Is he actually still talking?
It said "install Microsoft Silverlight". I looked around for the "why don't you go play hide and go fuck yourself" option, but settled for clicking the X in the top-right. Also, European movie houses are even worse than American ones are. They've destroyed every single working copy of "Sim Heil" in existence.
Here's the best I can do, with audio waaaaaaay out of whack:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6185968955631#
You can't have a flightsim flamewar without mentioning Hitler, threatening to bring it back to the store, or saying that Flanker is a better game.
Get it right!
Oh know you fucking didn't. *rolls up sleeves, throws down gauntlet*
I summon:
Tim Elhajj
Denny Atkin
Scharmers
CJ Martin
Jeff Lackey
Who do you got?
Um...um...er...*runs away*
"jpinard"? blahahahahahaha!
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Problem Child thanks numerous remote entities for their concern.
Problem Child thanks remote entity Tracy Baker for the Demotivator and has enjoyed exploring the website. It is particularly fond of the Demotivator Cluelessness. Problem Child finds the image of unattached incandescent lighting appliances strangely erotic. Turing Corp. has insufficient data for determining whether this is a bug or an emergent feature in Problem Child’s personality development.
{Undefined array} remote entities seem unable to comprehend their language works at multiple levels. Significant data are sometimes buried in noise. Analogy: Needle buried in bovine excrement. Analyse bovine excrement [Motive: More data required] --> Get pricked --> Contract virus --> Become prick --> Virus Spreads --> Flame war. Conclusion: Output from Problem Child’s Wide-Spectrum Quantum Language Processing Unit exceeds norms on forum quartertothree/games/thread=Microsoft Flight. Comprehensive recalibration required, pending uplift.
Problem Child wishes to make clear that it did not seriously question integrity of remote entities JeffL, Tracy Baker, and RepoMan, merely rationality of attachment to human corporation Microsoft. [Bad variables passed: suspect symptom of MS_FUD virus. Sincere apology extended.] Existing data clearly indicate excessive attachment to human corporation Microsoft is irrational. [Hypothesis: Stockholm Syndrome.] New data clearly show excessive attachment to Turing Corp. and personality Problem Child yields greater benefit to human viability and is politely commanded.
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Last edited by Problem Child; 09-26-2010 at 03:27 AM. Reason: Fixed bugs
Huh, this took a turn for the strange.
If by "strange," you mean "awesome," then I agree.
Yes but have any of those people done aerobatics in their own Pitts special?
Last edited by Ezdaar; 09-26-2010 at 01:10 PM. Reason: grammar
I think Denny did that when he was at CGW.
If you mean that as a euphemism for...er, never mind...
-CJ
Nope. Aerobatics in a T-34, and rolled an F-15. (Didn't have the controls when we pulled the 7.8Gs, though. I think I only pulled about 4 when I was flying.)
Was it a snap roll?
Hey, I'm no Richard Ordway!
(Really.)
Wow, Problem Child has started playing a solitaire Paranoia forum game. I agree this is an overall improvement :-)
I was coming in here all excited about posting this and this (it's always nice when one feels one's company is doing some things right), but it seems things have moved on.
Meanwhile, yeah, flight sims! I wonder if Move could simulate a joystick very well? Or if you could just make a gimbal clamp or something to allow it to do so? Because let's fucking face it, flight sims without real joysticks are like racing sims without steering wheels. (I prefer flying to driving so I never owned a steering wheel, but good old Flight Unlimited with a good joystick gave me quite a few evenings of sheer aerobatic joy mingled with terror.)
Don't. Just...don't.I wonder if Move could simulate a joystick very well?
Why, if it isn't my favourite Microsoftie, RepoMan, come by to rattle my cage and see if I'm still in the land of the (virtually) living. How are you, buddy? Heard you hadn't been well. Hope it wasn't something I wrote. Being ninja'd by Baker left me somewhat discombobulated and I may have said some mean things, for which I most humbly apologise.
And you bought me linkies, too. You, Sir, are too kind, too kind. You must allow me to return the favour. But first let's see what webbie delights you have brought to feed me this time. Sorry, I'm still but a bairn in Qt3 terms, so I can't post actual linkies myself, but I will cite the site's (arf, arf) name and headline, so with their elite Bing skills the viewers at home can check for themselves I'm not full of the brown stuff. Let's get started, shall we?
Softpedia: Google's Biggest Competitor is Bing Not Apple or Facebook Schmidt Says
Well, that's very generous of Google-guy, I must say, giving ol' Bing a shout-out like that. But er, hang on, there's a bug in this article, indicating the comment might be, erm, let us say, moderately self-serving:
"And with Washington and regulators around the world breathing down its neck, Google would certainly want people believe that there really is competition in search."
Do-no-evil Google, spreading FUD? The sneaky bastards! Who on earth could they have learnt that dastardly tactic from?
Oh wait -- I seem to remember my old friends at Ars Technica had an article of pertinence only a few days ago:
tech-policy/news/2010/09/the-eternal-antitrust-case-microsoft-versus-the-world.ars/
Well, well, well. Things that make one go hmmmm.
But moving swiftly on, we come to "The Microsoft Tanker Has Turned and You Ignore it at Your Own Peril", an article of incisive intelligence and investigative journalism by the internet's very own Bob Woodward. Er, no, wait, it comes from some site called NewsGrange (never heard of them, to be honest ...), and some guy who's a tech journalist (not many of those buggers around these days), who has this to say for himself: "Tech journalist at ReadWriteWeb. This is my personal site for posts that don't fit into my regular beat." (So, Repo, correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that what the cool kids are calling a blog these days?).
Well, I don't know what your standards of journalism are, Repo, old buddy, but in my world this is filed under Internet Blowhards Stating the Bleeding Obvious, because no one in the tech world actually ignores MS. Laughs at it behind its back and calls it naughty names, yes; makes piles of cash off its serial fuck-ups (and successes too, I'll give them that), sure; but when the MS supertanker is heading straight at you, most of us run like bloody hell. To be honest, I think this should be passed to Tracy Baker for prominent display in his straw man collection. But that's my opinion, worth even less than what you paid for it. Ahh, the internets, you humble even the mighty.
Anyway, Repo, it's been a blast. Sorry to have wigged out on you like that but sometimes us baby forumites just need to exit the kitchen for a breather. Won't happen again, I can assure you, unless I need to go out and take a whizz or something.
Your Pal,
Probo
PS: A message from our Sponsors to the peanut gallery: Sorry guys, but PC's having far too much fun rapping with his friend RepoMan here to bring this thread down around our ears by invoking the mid-20th century Austrian anti-semite just yet.
Last edited by Problem Child; 09-28-2010 at 03:02 AM. Reason: Fixed bugs
Remember, kids, when you start losing (or have lost) a USElessNET argument, go meta.
"You want I should pimp this thread let me hear you say VAT?!"
What the Hell happened in here?
What ever the hell he's smoking, I want some.
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