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    Minecraft! (first person fortress constructor)

    I ran a search and didn't find a thread for this, much to my surprise.

    Minecraft. You can play the classic (older version) for free or purchase the development version in that payment model that's become surprisingly common lately (pay a little now for alpha, or more when the full thing comes out).

    The game's very charming visually, being made solely of pixelly blocks. You start out with nothing but your punching fists, with which you can dig up dirt or chop down trees. Every material you make a tool out of lets you get resources from one material higher in quality (wood pickaxe lets you get stone, stone pickaxe lets you get iron, etc, more or less), and there are "recipes" in the game that actually resemble the tools you end up making.

    I haven't delved very deeply into it yet, but I did get killed by a skeleton archer at night, so I am suspecting that building some sort of defenses will be vital at some point. I already have a small cave dug out, with a door preventing entry, a work bench and a furnace.

    Anyway, I posted this to ask a question of those playing - how do you use a furnace? I built it, I stuck some coal in the smelty bit and some ore (or at least I think it's ore, a little hard to say, but it certainly has flecks in it of some sort) in the top part, and nothing happens, it just sits there. When I used a stick earlier I got it to light but I'm not sure what I did and I can't get it to happen again ...

    Link to succession game name list, further in this thread.

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    Do you mean multi-player?

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    Hah, right, I forgot that legacy mode is there too. It doesn't work yet in the alpha.

    If you know that, how about them furnaces ... ?

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    How do I use my workbench?

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    I love Minecraft but haven't played it in a few months. Looks like a lot has changed since last I played (the developer pushes updates like crazy) but this link describes how to use a furnace. Basically you put fuel (wood or coal) in the bottom slot and an object you want to smelt or cook. I used it to turn sand into windows for my little house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiohn View Post
    How do I use my workbench?
    Assuming you built it?, you approach it and left-click to use it. That will give you a 3x3 block to play with, which you fill in according to the recipes (linked in OP). Oh, you "deploy" it by left clicking on an empty patch of land as well.

    Furnace works the same way, except when I fill in the things I think should work (coal + ore), nothing happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcin View Post
    Assuming you built it?, you approach it and left-click to use it. That will give you a 3x3 block to play with, which you fill in according to the recipes (linked in OP). Oh, you "deploy" it by left clicking on an empty patch of land as well.

    Furnace works the same way, except when I fill in the things I think should work (coal + ore), nothing happens.
    I've built it and I can either wield it like anything else and use it to hit things with a left click, or I can right click and place it somewhere. Approaching and left clicking just causes me to hit it.

    Ah ha, I have to right click on it.
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    You know, fluid dynamics are much more ... surprising ... when viewed in first person. I've flooded many a fortress, but it is certainly different when the deluge happens right in your face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcin View Post
    Anyway, I posted this to ask a question of those playing - how do you use a furnace? I built it, I stuck some coal in the smelty bit and some ore (or at least I think it's ore, a little hard to say, but it certainly has flecks in it of some sort) in the top part, and nothing happens, it just sits there. When I used a stick earlier I got it to light but I'm not sure what I did and I can't get it to happen again ...
    You just put fuel (coal or wood) in the lower box, and whatever you want to smelt in the upper box. Your problem was probably that the 'ore' wasn't really ore. Maybe it was gravel? That kind of looks like flecked up rock to me. Also, check that your coal is really coal. Flint looks a lot like coal.

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    Is there any way to drain water?

    (Also, bought, now... and what's the deal with 'Secret Fridays'?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta View Post
    (Also, bought, now... and what's the deal with 'Secret Fridays'?)
    On Fridays (for the past few weeks), Notch releases an update with some of the features being undocumented. Last week it was buttons, pressure plates, red ore that could be used to transmit electricity, etc. This week it's a chance for a new world to generate as a snow world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorin View Post
    You just put fuel (coal or wood) in the lower box, and whatever you want to smelt in the upper box. Your problem was probably that the 'ore' wasn't really ore. Maybe it was gravel? That kind of looks like flecked up rock to me. Also, check that your coal is really coal. Flint looks a lot like coal.
    Yeah, this was it. It must be gravel and not ore - I tested out sand and got glass as expected. Hmm, that means I haven't seen iron yet. I guess I have to dig deeper, heh.

    I actually got a snow world as my first one ever - very nice looking, the falling effect really is that of a thick, slow snowfall. I like that you can punch off a layer of it from the ground and a bit later it'll be covered again.

    As to draining water, I'm not sure but I did see somewhere that a square of flowing water can cover the entire world right now, so I'm guessing that's a no(t yet).

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    I don't get it. I played the freebie version in the browser in the link. Crappy graphics with which I can lay down or destroy various multi colored blocks. I don't understand the point. Where's the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    I don't get it. I played the freebie version in the browser in the link. Crappy graphics with which I can lay down or destroy various multi colored blocks. I don't understand the point. Where's the game?
    I can't get the classic version to load for me, but gather that the alpha has a lot more stuff in it. Basically, the game is a big sandbox that has a lot of the same building appeal that Dwarf Fortress has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    I don't get it. I played the freebie version in the browser in the link. Crappy graphics with which I can lay down or destroy various multi colored blocks. I don't understand the point. Where's the game?
    The classic version used to be called Creative Mode, and yeah, all you do is build things with blocks. It's only really interesting in multiplayer, I find. The real game that's in development is the Alpha version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckessel View Post
    I don't get it. I played the freebie version in the browser in the link. Crappy graphics with which I can lay down or destroy various multi colored blocks. I don't understand the point. Where's the game?
    As mentioned in the OP, the Alpha mode is where the "survival" portion is. Like Skorin said, the unlimited "build" mode is only entertaining in multiplayer.

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    I cannot stress enough how much everyone is going to love this if they give it a try. This thread should be at least five times longer than it is.

    Not to mention the fact that notch pushes out serious, incredible updates weekly, and it's only in alpha.

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    Yeah I played the browser 'free' version too and it seemed interesting yet dead and boring overall. I had no idea there was a DF-type of game being built here.

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    The free version doesn't have any of the crafting. The amount of craftable stuff in this game is getting huge.

    Its a survival sandbox game. The game world size is nearly infinite. Between crafting, mining, farming, fighting, exploring, and building there is plenty to do.

    Despite the retro graphics this is easily the most interesting game I have bought all year. Its a real classic in the making. The only thing keeping me from playing it all the time is that its changing so quickly that I don't want to sink too much time into really building something huge.

    The game can be scary as hell too. There is nothing like digging through a mine and finding a cave full of zombies and skeletons. Its a 'real' kind of scary that is unlike other games. I mean if you play a game like Undying you know something scary is going to happen so when it does you're not caught off guard or anything, but in Minecraft your thinking about your tree farm or the tower you are working on or trying to layout enough torches to see the mine tunnel you're in then all of a sudden 'ssssssssssss' *BOOM* and you crap your pants.

    A single thread at QT3 with a couple dozen posts isn't doing the game justice. Its a much bigger deal than that.

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    Oh boy is there a Dwarf Fortress game being built here. Already there's so much potential - very recently Notch added the ability to program circuits. And cars and boats are essentially being developed. There's also a really active suggestions forum, so if you have an idea and it's cool, it's likely to be added.

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    To give a sense of what this game can be like, check out this video from Something Awful's LP that started about a week(?) ago:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0hZHqjlD4

    It's narrated by Dr. Evil, I guess, but it's a pretty cool setup they've got going on.

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    I'd also like to voice my support for Minecraft. It's a slowly developing labor of love and absolutely worth a look. I'm hoping there will be more mission oriented tasks, as besides building the other fun of Minecraft is exploring. I'm always eager to explore other people's creations. Adding simple quest could go a long way with this.

    Try for example exploring this little map I was chipping away at:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/myt5mu...necraft10.mine
    (You just need a free log in to be able to open local saves.)
    and imagine that kind of thing with some 'go to location' or 'find item' quests. Real quick and easy fun with tons of players making more worlds.

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    Is there a good tutorial somewhere for it? I've been searching and can't seem to find anything.

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    Nice. I kept meaning to start this thread awhile back but for whatever reason it refuses to run for me anymore on W7 x64 and a Radeon 5870. Anybody else have some combination like that working? It works but is too slow on my laptop and I hate impotently watching all the awesome dev announcements (mine carts, seriously!?)

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    Re: tutorial: Not that I found. Most important recipes to start with are: processed wood, sticks, workbench, furnace, pickaxe. Once you have that, I suspect you'll have enough going (zombies, spiders, sheep :)) on to consider next steps.

    I'm playing it on my macbook with "fast" rather than "fancy" graphics. You could try those on your laptop ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gendal View Post
    Nice. I kept meaning to start this thread awhile back but for whatever reason it refuses to run for me anymore on W7 x64 and a Radeon 5870. Anybody else have some combination like that working? It works but is too slow on my laptop and I hate impotently watching all the awesome dev announcements (mine carts, seriously!?)
    Have you tired the download client? The browser one was a little choppy, but the standalone client works great.

    BTW, I am pretty sure that the secret update with snow and ice was the first step toward seasons. Sometimes I'll spend days digging through caves. It would be cool to come out and see that it changed seasons. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorin View Post
    To give a sense of what this game can be like, check out this video from Something Awful's LP that started about a week(?) ago:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0hZHqjlD4

    It's narrated by Dr. Evil, I guess, but it's a pretty cool setup they've got going on.
    I still just see a big sandbox. I guess that's great if you like sandboxes, but is there an actual game in there somewhere? Bad guys to fight, dwarves to manage, goblin raids to repel, etc?

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    So, can we set up a MP QT3 server of this or something?

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