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    Maybe there's hope for Jefferson(Baldur's Gate 3?)after all?

    http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nach...el-2530331.asp

    IRVINE, Calif., Sept. 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Interplay Entertainment Corp. (BULLETIN BOARD: IPLY.OB) announced today it has terminated its distribution agreement with Vivendi Universal Games ("Vivendi").

    Commenting on the announcement, Interplay Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Herve Caen said, "In the interest of our company and its shareholders, we had no choice but to terminate this agreement. After several notifications to Vivendi of its failure to perform in accordance with the terms of our agreement and in particular, in refusing to pay Interplay certain monies due following our latest release, Lionheart, we still did not receive the payments owed to us. We are currently evaluating several other distribution options. We fully expect to release two of our strongest titles, Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance 2 and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel for Xbox and Playstation 2 in the fourth quarter."

    Interplay also announced it is considering legal action against Vivendi to recover the payments it believes it is owed, as well as to address various other claims as a result of the alleged failure of Vivendi to perform under the terms of the agreement.

    Interplay Entertainment Corp. is a worldwide developer and publisher of interactive entertainment software for both core gamers and the mass market. Founded in 1983, Interplay offers a broad range of products in the action/arcade, adventure/role-playing game (RPG) and strategy/puzzle categories across multiple platforms, including Sony PlayStation 2, Microsoft Xbox, Nintendo GameCube and PCs. Interplay''s common stock is publicly traded under the symbol IPLY:OB. For more information about Interplay please visit our website http://www.interplay.com/ .
    If Interplay is now free of Vivendi, let's hope they can get distribution rights with Atari, who hold the D&D liscence. And just as long as they don't gut Jefferson (which is thought to be Baldur's Gate 3) like they did TOEE, then Jefferson might see the light of day. Of course I'm not sure how much of the original Jefferson team is left.

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    Re: Maybe there's hope for Jefferson after all?

    Quote Originally Posted by theblackw0lf
    If Interplay is now free of Vivendi, they can work out distribution rights with Atari, who hold the D&D liscence. And just as long as they don't gut Jefferson like they did TOEE we might see Jefferson make the light of day.
    Why do I have a vision of the end of Fragmaster's latest Flash opus?

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    What's Jefferson?

    On a related note, I want to see BG:DA2. I want a chance to f-up that bastard Lizard Man who stabbed me in the back.

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    Jefferson is the project black isle was working on and was almost finished worth before they found out they didn't have the distribution rights to it. It's heavily rumored to be Baldur's Gate 3

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    There's only one project Black Isle is working on right now -- it ain't BG3, it's Fallout 3.

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    Either BG3 or Fallout 3 make perfect sense. Jefferson was the 3rd US president, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desslock
    There's only one project Black Isle is working on right now -- it ain't BG3, it's Fallout 3.
    Yea, Fallout 3 is named project Van Buren, which was started after the work on Jefferson stopped when IP found out they didn't have the distribution rights. That doesn't mean work couldn't begin on Jefferson again, depending on how much they have to finish.

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    Thanks. I'm out of the loop. :)

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    Cancelling that game was the smartest thing BI ever did. Now Jefferson was/is/would be TEH BEST RPG EVARRRRRr, and they won't have to admit that they don't have the money or talent to finish it. Heck, I'm surprised they still have the $30 to plunk down for a wire service press release, or someone left in the office who could type it.

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    I like Black Isle... but why would I want "Baldur's Gate 3" from any company other than Bioware?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bub, Andrew
    I like Black Isle... but why would I want "Baldur's Gate 3" from any company other than Bioware?

    Damn right Bub. Now, since there still seems to be some confusion after all these years:

    For those people who don't know, Black Isle was the *publisher* for Baldurs Gate 1&2, not the *developer*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bub, Andrew
    I like Black Isle... but why would I want "Baldur's Gate 3" from any company other than Bioware?
    Well I wasn't really excited about Baldur's Gate 3, I was really exicted about Jefferson though. So whatever Jefferson ends up being I want to play it. However the main rumor is that it is Baldur's Gate 3. I'm not exactly sure how it works out but even though Bioware developed it supposedly Interplay at one point had the rights to it, since they did after all distribute it. And I could easily see Interplay telling Black Isle to make Baldur's Gate 3, since it has a huge built in fanbase. Personally I'm hoping Jefferson is something different then Baldur's Gate 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalle
    Quote Originally Posted by Bub, Andrew
    I like Black Isle... but why would I want "Baldur's Gate 3" from any company other than Bioware?

    Damn right Bub. Now, since there still seems to be some confusion after all these years:

    For those people who don't know, Black Isle was the *publisher* for Baldurs Gate 1&2, not the *developer*.
    True. However, Black Isle did the IWD games, right? And I think they did a good job with those. I wouldn't mind seeing what they could do with the BG series. As long as they don't screw it up like they did with Lionheart. I mean, trusting that they could do justice to BG is no more ridiculous than trusting they could do justice to Fallout 3. They aren't the same company in that case either (not really anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Sharp
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalle
    Quote Originally Posted by Bub, Andrew
    I like Black Isle... but why would I want "Baldur's Gate 3" from any company other than Bioware?

    Damn right Bub. Now, since there still seems to be some confusion after all these years:

    For those people who don't know, Black Isle was the *publisher* for Baldurs Gate 1&2, not the *developer*.
    True. However, Black Isle did the IWD games, right? And I think they did a good job with those. I wouldn't mind seeing what they could do with the BG series. As long as they don't screw it up like they did with Lionheart. I mean, trusting that they could do justice to BG is no more ridiculous than trusting they could do justice to Fallout 3. They aren't the same company in that case either (not really anyway).
    I'm not sure Lionheart is Black Isle's fault. It's obvious that Reflexive, the creators of the game, had to release it earlier then they wanted, but I'm not sure why it happened. I'm guessing Interplay told them they couldn't afford to keep financing the development of the game.

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    By the way here's a quote from a Black Isle employee

    Jefferson was pretty far along when we stopped working on it. I have no doubt that we could finish it if given the opportunity.

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    I'd *love* to see Jefferson make it to the shelves. It sounds like a tremendous game, a BG2 type of game from everything I understand.

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    You fools! Don't support Jefferson! If Jefferson is reinstated, what will become of Van Buren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by extarbags
    You fools! Don't support Jefferson! If Jefferson is reinstated, what will become of Van Buren?
    From what I understand Jefferson is basically done, it just needs some touching up. At the most it would take 6 months I'm guessing. It's been worked on for 2 1/2 years already. Do you really want the guys at Black Isle to have worked on a game for 2 1/2 years and nothing to show for it? Plus if this is BG3, it'll probably be the biggest selling Black Isle game ever and will help fund Van Buren.

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    I thought one of the rumors about Jefferson was that it took place in the dalelands or something.. it didn't really have much to do with the city of baldur's gate specifically?

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    Wow, what a confusing clusterfuck! :?

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    Interplay's CEO stated at last year's financial conference last year that they do not have the rights to make a Baldur's Gate game on PC, presumably due to the settlement with Bioware and of course the fact that they only grandfathered in the D&D license games that were in production at the time.

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    "True. However, Black Isle did the IWD games, right? And I think they did a good job with those. I wouldn't mind seeing what they could do with the BG series."


    The problem is BIS is a shell of its former self, and not the same group that made Fallout, Torment, and IWD.

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    I have inside information* that "Jefferson" is more literal than any of you believe --- it's actually about Thomas Jefferson. You have to commission the Lewis and Clark expedition while managing affairs at Monticello remotely from the capital during a cholera outbreak, but late one night, just before meeting with Napoleon's ambassador to discuss the Louisiana purchase, you discover a secret passage leading to an Illuminati hideout, and you must foil their evil plans using a smoothbore musket and your faithful manservant Hodges.


    *from the voices in my head

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    Wrong Jefferson.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Many Jars
    I have inside information* that "Jefferson" is more literal than any of you believe --- it's actually about Thomas Jefferson. You have to commission the Lewis and Clark expedition while managing affairs at Monticello remotely from the capital during a cholera outbreak, but late one night, just before meeting with Napoleon's ambassador to discuss the Louisiana purchase, you discover a secret passage leading to an Illuminati hideout, and you must foil their evil plans using a smoothbore musket and your faithful manservant Hodges.

    *from the voices in my head
    I hear they're going to have to take out slavery to get a Teen rating. Also the German version is worried about violence so they're going to replace Native Americans with robots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Becker
    The problem is BIS is a shell of its former self, and not the same group that made Fallout, Torment, and IWD.
    Exactly - the team that made Descent to Undermountain is still intact, hoever.

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    I wouldn't hold your breath for anything post-BGDA2.

    A few of the old guys are still at the studio, but I doubt Interplay will be even be able to pay them much longer.

    Black Isle's internally developed games include: Fallout (pre-studio founding), Fallout 2, Planescape:Torment, Icewind Dale, Icewind Dale 2, BGDA2.

    And yes, Descent to Undermountain. :) This was also done pre-studio founding, but like Fallout, a lot of the core BI people were on board at that point.

    Lionheart was externally developed by Reflexive.

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    I want a new Fallout so bad, sometimes I stay up at night and cry, thinking how the original team will never be together to grant my wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desslock
    Exactly - the team that made Descent to Undermountain is still intact, hoever.
    Are you serious?

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    Hey, you don't just let talent like that get up and walk away.

    Same basic concept as prisons.

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