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Qt3 Movie Podcast: Robin Hood
With a little help from director Ridley Scott and screenwriter Brian Helgeland, Russell Crowe is Robin Hood! Or is he?
If you haven't seen Robin Hood, join us for this week's 3x3: movies that made you like an actor or director you previously loathed. It starts at the 52-minute mark.
Next week: The Messenger...
I'm just going to listen to the whole thing... don't have high hopes for Robin Hood.
.........and the podcast is over.
Glad I listened. My soul doesn't need to watch another bad Ridley Scott movie.
Last edited by Chris Dunkley; 05-17-2010 at 03:52 AM.
Geez. Don't like Iron Man 2. Don't like Robin Hood. Only seem to like indie/arthouse films that nobody has heard of. What a bunch of hipsters.
About the hammer Robin Longstride wields on Omaha Beach: it's not funny that a medieval warrior is using one. The handle of Robin's hammer is not exactly carpentry length. It's a war hammer and it's a good weapon against armoured opponents. Where a blade bounces off hardened plate armour, a hammer still breaks bones.
Then again, it's funny that he's using one as they only became popular a couple of hundred years later than the events of the film...
The siege in the beginning was good because it showed Richard's host as a bunch of roving thieves. Nicely subversive compared with the usual depictions of knights, almost George R. R. Martin territory.
Kingdom of Heaven (director's cut only) is quite watchable if you like medieval fight scenes.
Good show. Heard enough bad things about the movie that I didn't see it, now I won't go out of my way.
One thing about the show, though. I grew up and currently live in Gloucester, VA, so imagine my surprise when the theater at York River Crossing is mentioned! I was driving down Jefferson, but I'd passed that shopping center fifteen minutes before. Always good to hear the existence of my little home town acknowledged.
Best arthouse film of all time: Zapped.
Originally Posted by Mr_PeaCH
Goly Miss Wand, it sounds like seeing "Zapped" has really been a profound, life changing moment for you.
Originally Posted by Kelly Wand
After your "Post-Zapped" awakening, movies have never been the same since huh?
I'm with you on The Survivors, Kelly. That movie was a big hit in my dorm, and it got quoted about on par with Monty Python. "That's good chicken, kid!"
Why can't a common man like Robins father, a mason, be responsible for the Magna Carta in a movie... you think only blueblooded people can have profound thoughts...? OK, in real history it looks like King John pissed off too many of his royals that they put the pressure on him to sign the Carta. But don't underestimate the common man...
Hammers are great!
I saw the movie, it's as terrible as the podcast suggests. What happened to Ridley Scott? This is the same guy who directed Blade Runner? I saw the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, it's a much better movie and worth watching for the battle sequences. I loved the Total War style siege sequences.
You have to be educated to write the Magna Carta don't you? I assume the common man of this period doesn't know how to read and write?
well, this particular common man could read and write... ;-) and I don't know what happened to Scott. His great time was the 70s and 80s. The Duelists, Alien and Blade Runner... excellent.
Scott's done decent work in later years -- Thelma & Louise, KoH, arguably Matchstick Men. Some would put Gladiator in there as well though I am not a fan (despite Crowe's being perfectly cast in the lead role).
I think KoH is the closest we've come of late to an intelligent medieval epic in the '60s tradition, though its storyline is a bit diffuse and Orlando Bloom, while trying mightily, just doesn't have the the star power to stave off the presence of superior supporting players like Ed Norton, David "Dependable" Thewliss, Liam Neeson, and Ghassan Massoud (who plays Saladin -- talk about presence!).
I've never thought Scott was much of an action director -- not compared to naturals like Spielberg, Cameron, Bigelow. But when it comes to atmosphere he's hard to beat, especially back in the day.
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He gets a lot of shitty scripts along with buckets full of money, and he never seems to mind filming those shitty scripts as long as the buckets full of money pay for lots of pretty pictures. Which is sad because he can make great-looking films with an intelligent script on a shoestring budget, as The Duelists demonstrated.
Originally Posted by skyride
I finally caught a podcast after seeing one of the movies -- I liked Tom's assessment of the movie's muddled politics. But you guys didn't think the knight/night line was funny? That's too bizarre. I loved that line.
I took my son who sat in the front row with some of his friends and now he wants to see it again this weekend - ouch. Not sure I can take it.
I think I need to stop listening to the the podcast for these types of films.
I was convinced I had had an enjoyable evening watching a slightly flawed film until it was pointed out to me in great detail that the film had no redeeming features what so ever.
And now I feel like an idiot.
Just you wait; in a couple of years, and after the first DVD/Blu-Ray release, there will be a Director's Cut edition available and it will be OK to enjoy that version. Possibly.
Originally Posted by NI
Sorry about that.
Originally Posted by NI
In the future, if you ever feel that way while listening to us, just remind yourself that we're the idiots. It's us, not you.
"I woke this morning with a tumescent glow."
Listening to this podcast before seeing the film increased my enjoyment in the theater tenfold. Being prepared in advance for such groaners as knight/night somehow made it tolerable.
Strange as it may sound, I wasn't really complaining about the podcast as such - just me listening to it. I'll grant you that the movie has issues and all the criticism I heard before I turned the podcast off, might be valid.
Originally Posted by XtienMurawski
It's just that sometimes I'm not interested in a "good" film with great portrayals of sadness and despair, I'm just interested in being entertained for a while. Which may require suspension of disbelief and even some slight self delusion on my part. That only works until someone points out that the emperor has no clothes on. Sadly, movies like Hurt Locker, Fantastic Mr. Fox and Moon don't get released every week, so I have to make do with what's available.
The idiocy was me listening to the podcast of a movie which I enjoyed but also suspected might not stand up all that well to close scrutiny.
"I don't know where you get your delusions, laser-brain."
Was it in this podcast or the Iron Man one where Kelly Wand mentioned The Island? Anyway, I've been meaning to post this forever. I tried to send it to Kelly Wand, but since this is my first post I couldn't send any private messages:
Dear Mr. Wand,
Many many podcasts ago you made reference to a movie called The Island, and specifically to a scene that has haunted me to this day.
I remember I was around 10 and I was at the drive-in, sitting the way-back of my parents' station wagon, pretending to watch The Rescuers. But in actuality I was watching The Island on the screen behind us. I couldn't hear anything but I could see it, and I'm fairly sure I saw some boobies. So I was hooked.
At some point there's a scene where the pirates board a yacht of some kind and start killing and abusing the passengers, some of whom were lovely and female. I was horrified. But then a dude pops out of the hold and starts doing all this amazingly cool kung-fu and kicking pirate ass. I was way into Bruce Lee and any film where Elvis used his karate skills, so I was enthralled.
The pirate captain sends one pirate after another to take out the handsome, tanned, kung-fu dude and he easily vanquishes each one with a flourish. I wanted to be this guy. He was the coolest guy ever. And it reinforced my idea that if you knew kung fu you were unstoppable.
Until at some point the pirate captain becomes bored and sends his scariest looking dude, who quickly skewers the kung fu dude.
I was completely crushed. It freaked me out. And I remember it to this day. I haven't managed to find the movie since, partly from lack of trying but I think deep down I'm still a little freaked out by it.
Anyway, good job on the podcast, I'm a big fan.