Overlord has some interesting news.
The next step will most probably be long-awaited Historical battles. This kind of entertainment, being a variation of company battles, is going to be available for organized teams (we do plan some simplifications for individual players of how to find the suitable company). Visually the mode will resemble Clan Wars "in miniature". Expected time of completion a single scenario (battle) is going to be up to 2 hours. Consequently, in terms of time "consumption" and player commitment, Historical battles are expected to take place somewhere in between Company battles (with 1h per day) and Clan Wars (with 3-6h per day). Currently we are polishing the concept of this game mode to prepare it for the production. The main feature of Historical battles is obviously historical setups of the vehicles, broken into periods. Playing a 1941 battle, there will be no Tigers and IS's available, in 1943 you won't see any T-54s and E-50s... Actually, there will be no T-54s and E-50s at all in this mode :). At first Historical battles are going to be limited by World War 2 time line, later on the period can be extended (eg include Korean War and the respective vehicles fought there).
i really love my type 59. its a fun tank. Still it pisses me off to no end that my T-44 gets its ass handed to it everytime it meets a type 59. This is not how it should be for an elited regular tier8 tank vs a premium tier8.
I mean a regular KV-1 wipes the floor with a churchill or a T-14, and my IS-3 and king tiger fuck up lowes something fierce.
I tend to have decent luck with my T-44 vs. Types, but the Types bounce a lot of shots. On the flip side, the blow up real good unless they have the wet ammo rack. So does the 44 though.Originally Posted by schurem
At a guess, if they can afford a 59, they also have some gold ammo. That could be the difference maker in your one on one battles with them.
Maybe, maybe not. I have had a Type forever but never use gold ammo in public matches, and rarely in CW, as I can't afford it. Mostly it's the bounciness of the tank and the decent gun I think. Also, while some players are lousy, a lot of long-time Type drivers are very good.
Too true. Darn you long time players! *shakes fist*
On a different note, can I just say how much I love ramming things? It took a while to get used to doing but now... E-50 destruction ahoy! With Controlled Impact, just... wow. Destroyed a half strength E-75 the other day. One shot, one ram, a thousand damage and he's out of there. So, so sweet.
Remember, just like shooting, try for the back if possible.
Yeah, the E-50 gets up a real head of steam, and Controlled Impact makes sense if you're an aggressive player.
Oh, another thing on the Types--because there are no other Chinese tanks, the crews never get moved out of the tank, so they tend to become monsters over time.
I rammed a 4502B from behind with my E-50 for 550+ dmg and then shot him for 400+. It was awesome.
And I never use gold ammo in the Type59, most people don't. Its really expensive given how fast that thing eats through ammo. I often end matches with 0-6 shells left, I can't imagine how much money that would cost over time.
Some clans, like [RUS] for instance, seem to use gold ammo a lot in public matches; their top players get a healthy allotment of gold from their territories I guess.
Thanks for the tip about ramming. I managed to kill three people last game with my KV5 just by building a decent head of steam.
I got killed by a Hummel ramming me in either my Leopard or my T-50. That was a first.
Driving my type for money has given me back that je ne sais quoi for driving high tier mediums. agressive. fast. intelligently reacting to the flow of the battle. I fell back in love with my T-44 and Pershing.
I got me a Lorraine, but that really is one paper thin bitch tank. She can put a lot of hurt downrange, but is a huge target with fucking cardboard armor. I hope it gets better with practice. The things that worked well in the AMX-13 90 get me wtfpwned in the lorry.
How do you guys like the new and improved KV-1? I'm loving it. Just the right amount of armor, firepower and manouverability for its tier. It's bigger brother, the T-150 is really fun as well, and quite a decent moneymaker.
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I'm really enjoying the KV-1 as well. Playing it a lot lately. And winning. Not so with the new KV-2, damn.
Sold my KV-1, KV-2, KV-3. See no reason to play them, as I don't like them much, and I have the IS-4, IS-8, and IS-7. Then again, I generally don't keep too many lower tier tanks around, though I probably should. Now that I have a decent stable of top-tier vehicles, I'll probably start to back fill lower tiered, elited tanks as sales roll around, or new lines open up. I still need to grind up to the Maus, for instance, from the 3001P, though the way the Germans have been savaged by the nerf bat I'm wondering why bother.
I think they could be fun in historic battles.
I think the mid tiers provide a fun diversion from the high tiers. Low tiers are fun as well of course, but matches play very quick. I rarely ever see the end of any match when i play a light tank ;-)
On mid-tier you can get some real tactics going and make some bank as well.
Actually any tier except 4 and 7 are fun. Heck at 7, heavies are fun, and tier 4 tank destroyers rock as well.
At the top tiers one often has to hit an enemy like ten times to get a kill. Or just watch arty do the work. At mid-tier, you can kill most things with three or four solid hits. Even a fellow KV. You are less dependent on the rest of your team to actually make a difference, increasing the tolerance for idiot teams.
One of the things that frustrate me most about high tier games are other people. That idiot in a lowe hiding with the artillry. Those fools in IS-8s drip feeding themselves one by one into the jaws of a solid entrenched defence. The thundercunt driving an IS-4 with the default gun. l'enfer c'est les autres
I've seen KV's in matches in which they are the top tier tank. They are fearsome beasts when faced with only their historic opponents.
Oh, I agree the mid tiers are fun. I tend to like mediums in that area, and arty, rather than the (mostly mediocre) heavies. I just don't like the KVs, period, and while I'll eventually backfill some mid-tiers, I actually prefer high tier matches, except for the cost.
What's the best Soviet credit farming tank if you aren't on premium?
T-34-85 with the 100mm is pretty good from what I hear.
KV used to be the king, but I'm not sure how the KV-1 is for making cash.
Su-85 is probably the best now. Decent MMing and a simply insane gun for the tier.
I don't know how it is for credit farming, but I'm not really a fan of this tank. It's got a better gun than the T-34, but it's still got the T-34's very weak hull, and it's slower than a T-34. As far as Tier VI mediums go, the T-34-85 is my least favorite (and I believe I've played all the non-premium Tier VI mediums at one time or another).
I'm just going off of a buddy of mine thats never had premium. He plays the T-34-85 and other lower tier tanks for money and likes the 34-85 for it. The gun is pretty insane for its tier and has cheap ammo, so you're looking at a likely high return. I didn't mind the tank, but I preferred the T-43 because of the increase in speed.
I'd lean towards the SU-85 though. The 107 in tier 5 is just insane and you'll penetrate anything you see and one/two shot pretty much everything. And if you get tossed into a high tier match you can hurt/kill anything in the game with that gun short of a Maus. Hell you can handle tier8s frontally without many issues if it comes to it. Good credit farming is generally a matter of doing a lot of damage with cheap ammo/high damage shots. The KV-1 with the 57mm is probably a solid money maker. The ammo is basically free and you shouldn't die too easy, but heavies tend to have higher repair costs.
Didn't they nerf the income of the SU-85? It still might be worth playing for credits though.
The T-34 and T-34-85 are my favorites of the russian medium line. The T-43 feels like a downgrade after the 34-85 because while it has more armor and hitpoints, it's comparatively sluggish and has the same gun, so you'll evade less while doing the same damage.
I kept an elited SU-85 around for a long time, very fun tank to play.
The feature I really wish they would add are more clan wars battle times. I went to join a clan for doing clan wars and found that pretty much every clan requires availability between 7pm-10pm which is when 95% of the action is, and that is the only time of the day I'll never be able to commit to for the foreseeable future. Where are the 10pm-1am battles? It would be like if WOW only had raiding and arena during a 3 hour stretch each night. It's ridiculous.
IS-8 is fast becoming one of my favorite tanks. It has speed and has a beast of a main cannon when fully upgraded.
It's certainly a finesse tank, with the paper side armor! It gets penned by arty HE rounds if they can hit something other than the prow. But yeah, great mobility for that awesome gun.
Yeah, I'm trying to like the Lorraine but I'm failing. The T59 seems to suit my play style better (i.e. suicidally aggressive).
Yeah the Type 59 can take a massive beatdown and keep on running. I've only had mine a while, but it had a few times where I have run through a group of 2-3 tier 8 heavies, taken a few shots and sailed on pass.
Su-85 is an absolute monster with the top gun, if you get towards the top of the matchmaker you can look at the list and reliably think "Yep, I can one shot that guy" for 80%+ of the opposing team.
Referring back to the Tier 7 hate, so far I am enjoying my T-20 medium :-) It was mostly unlocked though, only needed 16,000 odd xp to unlock everything. Its fun running around with a 90mm, one of the few times with a medium you feel like you can actually dish out some damage. I've had at least one time let loose in the artillery park to rampage so far as well :-)
On the mid-tier (~6) mediums I have played VK3601H, Easy-8, and T34-85.
VK3601H is my most successful on average XP and is basically a super Pz IV or a junior Tiger. It's a great tank, but obviously rewards the patient sniper box style of play, rather than charging forward. it generally loses out in a close quarters brawl / knifefight, it just doesn't turn quick enough. The short 88 is great for its tier. (Its less impressive on the VK 3002DB, but that is another story)
Easy -8 is the most "FUN". It zooms and booms - quick moving, corners/turns well, decent gun that fires / reloads fast. Get this thing in close and circle strafe! Have taken out lone Lowe's a few times.
The T34-85 was my least favourite. It's not particularly nimble or fast moving and the gun is "OK". I don't think I ever really figured out the play style for this one. You cant play a sniper (too inaccurate, slow reload) and it cant "knife fight" like the Easy -8. Moving at the back of a pack or seeking flanks is probably the best way.
I didn't really notice much different in earning rates, but didn't really pay close attention. I suspect the T34-85 is probably right as a good earner, with cheap ammo and ample opportunity to actually damage. Easy-8 is fun, but times you can damage might be limited.
Still no love from me for the arty, but thinking of jumping back in with a Grille. Is there any standout best / stupid / worst artillery line out of German / USSR / USA?
CW timing sucks for a lot of folks. The times for battles seem to be a function of where on the map the battle is (some areas are in different time zones depending on what territory you're fighting in) and how many people put in chips for the battle (the more people who are in the tournament, the longer the damn thing goes on). So, say, if you're invading the Canary Islands landing zone, your first battle is probably going to be around 9-9:30PM Eastern, and if you win through you won't take the territory until after 11 probably. But if you're defending you probably won't be done until midnight or thereabouts. For folks in the Eastern time zone it gets prohibitively late, and pushes it for working folks in the Central time area. My clan has a few West Coast players but more in the east, plus a coterie of Australians, and it's not that often we can fields a full team for late events. So we often take a territory, then lose it because no one is around to defend.
One issue is that the territories that have earlier battle start times are either way too heavily contested for us or, more importantly probably, have start times too early for Pacific and Mountain zone players. So it's a choice of definitely excluding West Coast players, or inconveniencing East Coast players, and we have to do the latter usually.
As an aside, though there are still the occasional teams that field a bevy of E-100s, most of the time all I see now is T110E5s, IS-4s. and IS-7s, with a smattering of Bat.Chats or AMX-50Bs. Once in a while a Maus lumbers up, and there's often a few heavy TDs lurking about, but most of the mobile battles are fought now by the American and Russian heavies it seems.
Yeah, the problem is that the map has territories with so few time slots. My best play time is 9:30pm-2am these days, but clans I have talked to want availability earlier.
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