Hey A&M, you hear that? The train's leaving the station, you better wake up!Originally Posted by Kraaze
Hey A&M, you hear that? The train's leaving the station, you better wake up!
AD Tom Osborne is saying that NU Athletic Department won't profit much from move to Big 10. Primary motivation to move was lack of confidence in the future of the Big 12.
With all respect for Dr. Tom, how can that not be PR spin? Neb should do much better by being a part of the Big Ten network revenue model.
I'm sort sort of curious about that myself. I guess a few years will show if that was spin or if we really think that the Big-10 revenues might be diluted by expansions.
EDIT: And with no surprise, the motion passes the NU board of regents unanimously.
EDIT 2: Reporters called Osborne and Perlman on this issue, and the response was that they are not allowed to discuss until something is signed but Nebraska approach has been to find a way to join the Big-10 without reducing distributions to any existing Big 10 teams and to not negatively impact Nebraska athletic budgets.
Last edited by Tortilla; 06-11-2010 at 12:32 PM.
Mizzou is in great shape now. They've just announced their 2012 conference schedule, in fact:
They're gonna play KEM house and the Pikes in 6-on-6 at Reactor Field. Should be scintillating viewing.
Coach Gary Pinkel (football) and Mike Anderson (hoops) have got to be *thrilled* they turned down offers from other schools over the last few years.
NU sounds like a bunch of whiny little douchebags.
Only three teams had the power to bring down the Big12: Texas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska. Every other school has a brand that could be replaced easily. Colorado leaving? BFD, hello Utah! Tech leaving? BFD, hello TCU!
UT and OU prefer to keep the Big12 intact. Why wouldn't they? They've both had great success in the B12. The money isn't the greatest, but that contract will get better when it comes up in a few years.
NU is gonna get killed in their final year of B12 play.
Wow, that's a, uh, great approach.
BTW triggercut, you're killing me! hehe
That was kinda my thinking--if the Big 12 knew someone would be leaving, I'd be hitting up TCU immediately, and if there was another, maybe UHouston.
--- Alan
Because why? Because we refused to commit to a conference that was obviously falling apart? Don't get caught up in the ultimatum nonsense, that was a contrived move by those who wanted the conference to fall apart to cause it to fall apart faster.
You just tried to handwave off money as a big issue in a college athletics issue?!?!? Okaaaay then.
Err, what?
Yeah, there's a lot of a noncommital vague statements in what Osborne was saying, but what I took away from it was a sense that we wanted in the Big 10 bad enough that we would take a smaller revenue share initially.
Well, even at that, they'll probably end up better financially in the long run.
Possibly. Like I said, I might be reading too much into vague statements but I'm getting the sense that Osborne was primarily worried about being left with Kansas and Iowa State as schools without a chair when the music stopped.
There were also several statement from Osborne and Perlman that they didn't feel it would be fair for the Big 12 to levy any fines on NU for leaving. So I'm guessing we might see some fun lawyering up happening.
So I've heard they have no official invitation from the Big 10, and that has to be done a year from now? I assume they wouldn't make this move without solid commitment behind closed doors.
Heh.
Nebraska needs to cry about being forced out of the Big XII as part of a concerted effort to lay groundwork to avoid the $10m penalty for leaving the conference.
Perhaps that's Mizzou's strategy: they'll just stick around and collect penalty money. (It takes 9 schools to vote to dissolve the conference, or you pay up when you leave. Allegedly. I doubt anyone's paying any money and everyone will lawyer up.)
The Big Ten "invites" no one; you apply to them for admission.
However: no one with Nebraska's prestige would apply for membership without some sort of binding agreement that the application would be accepted. NU meets all the Big Ten academic and athletic requirements, so all that is formality.
The Big12 wasn't failing apart. It fell apart because NU left. Period, end of discussion. Colorado leaving isn't a big deal. Mizzou leaving wouldn't have been a big deal either. There's several schools in mid major conferences near Big12 country that would die to replace CU in a BCS conference.
NU sounds whiny because they're "blaming" their leaving on CU, on Mizzou, and on the B12 south schools.
Get some balls and just say that the B10 is a better conference and you're moving on to greener pastures. The athletics are about even and the academics... well that's not even close.
It's less money for a couple of more years. Not a big deal either.
The rest of the north division is about to go from a BCS conference to a mid major. You don't think those players will be extra motivated when they play this year? (Assuming they still play)
Is this true? I'd heard rumors of the Big 12 breaking up long before any specific rumors of Nebraska leaving.
Yeah that's what I meant based on what I read. Too lazy to be semantically correct I guess.
Not to mention the possibility of an invitation to join the CIC, which helps the university at large.
I think it has more to do with how much Dan Beebe sucks.
If everyone leaves the conference, there will be no one left to collect.
"Tyrone, you know how much I love watching you work, but I've got my country's 500th anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, my wife to murder and Guilder to frame for it; I'm swamped."
What I'm hearing is that seven votes of Big 12 members would be enough to change the Big 12 bylaws and remove the penalties for leaving. Obviously Nebraska and Colorado vote yes. If the Big 12 south makes a mass rush for the exits in order to jump into the Pac 10 then they would probably vote yes as well and the Big 12 will just suddenly collapse with no recourse for those left in the rubble.
Yeah, you're hearing Delaware corporate law. Texas (who probably is cursing it) wrote a provision into the Big XII by-laws to specifically supersede this, requiring a 9-vote supermajority.
John Hoover of the Tulsa World explains that the exit fine isn't exactly a fine, but a loss of revenue share:
o clarify: CU, NU don't have to pay penalty to B12. Penalty comes out of revenue share. Inside 2 yr notice, 50%. Less notice, greater %.
Chip Brown/Orangebloods (which is being cited on Seattle local sports radio at this point, which is hilarious) are saying that the move of Texas, Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State to the Pac is pretty much a done deal. Whether A&M follows remains to be seen, but it does seem like an A&M/Texas package is not going to happen. It'll be interesting to see if the Big 10 or SEC still want A&M under those circumstances.
Well, at least not to the Big Ten or SEC, at least.
The Pac-10 still might get the package deal.
Yeah, I was referring to the Texas/A&M only package that both the Big 10 and SEC covet.
One thing Dan Boobe did say was: "Nebraska, Colorado, pay up."
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