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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatius P. Reilly View Post
    Where Canon and Nikon have an advantage in lenses is in super-expensive, professional lenses, notably their telephoto offerings. You can buy a $29,000 Sigma telephoto zoom for a Canon mount that is not available for Pentax. If you are planning on "growing" into a $29,000 lens down the road (or even an $8,000 one, like the Canon 600mm f/4 with image stabilization) I would definitely go for Canon, or, second choice, Nikon. If you don't think you are ever going to spend more than $1,500 per lens I believe you'd find Pentax's offerings every bit as good as the Canon/Nikon stuff.
    I don't mean to nitpick but Canon/Nikon have some fantastic non-telephotos. On the Canon side there's the 85mm F1.2, 135mm F2.0, 35mm F1.4 and the awesome 17mm/24mm/90mm TS-E tilt shifts plus others. I've got a coworker who's totally happy with his Pentax, however I can rent any one of those lenses for $20/day on no notice. No knocking your choice, it's just something to be aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravalen View Post
    I don't mean to nitpick but Canon/Nikon have some fantastic non-telephotos. On the Canon side there's the 85mm F1.2, 135mm F2.0, 35mm F1.4 and the awesome 17mm/24mm/90mm TS-E tilt shifts plus others. I've got a coworker who's totally happy with his Pentax, however I can rent any one of those lenses for $20/day on no notice. No knocking your choice, it's just something to be aware of.
    I never said Canon and Nikon don't have fantastic non-telephotos. I said that their big advantage over Pentax was in their "super-expensive, professional lenses", *most notably* (but not limited to) their big, long telephotos -- because Pentax doesn't make anything longer than 300mm, and at 300mm they don't make anything as fast (or as expensive) as Canon's $4,400 f/2.8 lens. I would consider, for example, the 17mm tilt-shift lens you mentioned, which sells for $2,500, to be exactly the kind of lens that I would refer to as a very expensive, professional lens, which, if in one's budget, represents an area where Canon has an advantage over Pentax.

    However, apart from very specific areas like tilt-shift lenses, extreme telephoto lenses (500mm, etc.) and the like, I believe that Pentax's lenses stack up very well with Canon and Nikon, even taking into consideration their pricey selections like the $2,000 85mm f/1.2 you mention. The Pentax Limited 77mm f/1.8, while a stop slower, is very highly regarded and costs about 1/3 of the Canon lens. While it's true that the rentability of Canon lenses that might be otherwise out of reach should be a factor if you shoot in a manner that renting lenses for a single day makes sense (I am decidedly not that type of photographer), you can't dismiss the price differences entirely by invoking rental prices. (For me, those Canon lenses rent for $40 (US) per day, by the way, so you've got a much more generous rental house than me.)

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    I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but one advantage to buying Pentax that may or may not apply to the other manufacturers is that their lens fittings are backwards compatible with older lenses. I bought a second-hand 55mm f1.2 manual focus lens last year for about €50; the lens was manufactured sometime between 1977 and 1984. That lens is potentially older than I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dermot View Post
    I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not but one advantage to buying Pentax that may or may not apply to the other manufacturers is that their lens fittings are backwards compatible with older lenses. I bought a second-hand 55mm f1.2 manual focus lens last year for about €50; the lens was manufactured sometime between 1977 and 1984. That lens is potentially older than I am.
    Nikon's been using the same lens mounts since 1959. Any lens made in the past fifty years will fit onto Nikon bodies.

    Canon on goes as far back as 1987, when they introduced the EF format.

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    As far as the Pentax, Nikon, Canon debate goes, I switched from Pentax to Nikon because (1) Pentax lenses are getting almost as expensive as Canon lenses, (2) the long-term financial health of the companies, and (3) buying Nikon lenses is an investment that will reap benefits across multiple DSLR bodies over time. Until my d80 I was a long time Pentax user from back in the 35mm days. But I feel more comfortable investing $1,000s in lenses in Nikon because I am pretty sure I am looking at a good decade with these lenses. I am not so sure about Pentax's longevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajah sulayman View Post
    Nikon's been using the same lens mounts since 1959. Any lens made in the past fifty years will fit onto Nikon bodies.

    Canon on goes as far back as 1987, when they introduced the EF format.
    That's interesting about Nikon, very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dermot View Post
    That's interesting about Nikon, very interesting.
    Mind you, on consumer bodies (d90, d80, d60, d40, et al) pre-1986 lenses won't meter, which means you'll need a light meter of your own (or just wing it using the Sunny 16).

    Pro bodies (d200, d300, d700, and up) will meter just fine.

    There's a pretty comprehensive article on it the different lens types over at Ken Rockwell.

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