Reply With QuoteWho is this "God" you mention?
I never much cared for Christopher Hitchens prior to 9/11, but he has been the one indispensable political writer ever since. The only left-leaning commentator of any worth, and a better proponent of engagement than any of the "neocon" straw men.
Most importantly, Hitchens has been fearless and eloquent in raking his political compatriots through the coals -- the "chief moral losers," as he puts it.
From his new Slate column:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2088025/It's perhaps a little easier for me to be reminded than it is for some others: My apartment has a direct view of the flight path to Washington National Airport, and I go past the White House or the Capitol several times a week. But never—quite literally never—without imagining how things would be if that flight from Newark hadn't been delayed and if the United Airlines passengers hadn't got the word in time and decided to make a fight of it.
If our Congress or our executive mansion had been immolated that morning, would some people still be talking as if there was a moral equivalence between the United States and the Taliban? Would they still be prattling as if the whole thing was an oblique revenge for the Florida recount? Of course they would. They don't know any other way to talk or think. My second-strongest memory of that week is still the moaning and bleating and jeering of the "left." Reflect upon it: Civil society is assaulted in the most criminal way by the most pitilessly reactionary force in the modern world. The drama immediately puts the working class in the saddle as the necessary actor and rescuer of the said society. Investigation shows the complicity of a chain of conservative client states, from Pakistan to Saudi Arabia, in the face of which our vaunted "national security" czars had capitulated. Here was the time for radicals to have demanded a war to the utmost against the forces of reaction, as well a full house cleaning of the state apparatus and a league of solidarity with the women of Afghanistan and with the whole nexus of dissent and opposition in the Muslim world. Instead of which, the posturing loons all concentrated on a masturbatory introspection about American guilt, granted the aura of revolutionary authenticity to Bin Laden and his fellow gangsters, and let the flag be duly seized by those who did look at least as if they meant business.
Who is this "God" you mention?
What is this "left-leaning" commentator that you mention?
You know, I've seen a lot of "left-leaning teenagers" driving ricers lately.... could that be it? Maybe they have a spine problem that precludes them from sitting up straight?
Sorry, what? Christopher Hitchens? Left leaning? You must have become dissassosciated in time and space, my man.
Jesus, Hitchens is really operating in outerspace there, fighting SPACE strawmen.
Nah, they just don't know you can turn the A/C vents.Originally Posted by Midnight Son
:lol: :lol:Nah, they just don't know you can turn the A/C vents.
This is what we've devolved to. Jason can't even be bothered to write his long winded sophistries anymore. He just tosses off a quip and exists.
Whatever. What's for lunch?
So, this is a political commentator complaining about other political commentators? The whole thing's sort of "masturbatory" isn't it?Here was the time for radicals to have demanded a war to the utmost against the forces of reaction, as well a full house cleaning of the state apparatus and a league of solidarity with the women of Afghanistan and with the whole nexus of dissent and opposition in the Muslim world. Instead of which, the posturing loons all concentrated on a masturbatory introspection about American guilt, granted the aura of revolutionary authenticity to Bin Laden and his fellow gangsters, and let the flag be duly seized by those who did look at least as if they meant business.
Hitchens isn't worth treating seriously. He's got that annoying British public school writing style (Andrew Sullivan does to a lesser degree) that drives the amount of work you need to debunk him to 100 times the amount he put into it. It's not worth detangling the web of slander and lies.
On a wholly unrelated note, did you attend British public schools?
Ooooooooooh!
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I say, chaps, this has all taken a rather ugly turn....
Yeah, sounds like they're about to solve this little argument like good ol' British students.
I do believe you are trying to take the piss out of this conversation!
So far most of the major bases are covered....now I just need Preston to show up with his "Christopher Snitchens" riff.
There's less buggery here. Or possibly more. I don't know, it's difficult to tell sometimes.
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