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    360 Xbox Hard Drive Question

    I heard that 3rd party memory cards aren't going to work on the xbox soon does that apply to hard drives as well?
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    What?

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    yes it does

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    link here.

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    I believe the "What?" is more about third-party hard drives. Who sells those?

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    No one. But you can, with the right know how, hook up a non-360 drive to your 360 that doesn't exceed 120 gigs and use it as your memory, thereby getting around the need to pay $200~ for a proprietary hard drive.

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    I'm asking because shelling out 199.00 dollars for 120 gig hd is robbery. I can find it on ebay for a 1/3 of that, but if it's going to be bricked my microsoft I don't want to buy it.

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    It would still work fine if you only plan on using your xbox offline. Otherwise you pretty much have to pay out the ass for the HDD

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    Typical
    That pretty much sums it up.

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    Stores just started selling Elites with 250GB drives. I expect the standalone to be the price of a PS3 :)

    Now somebody please try hacking in a 250GB drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon G Sides View Post
    No one. But you can, with the right know how, hook up a non-360 drive to your 360 that doesn't exceed 120 gigs and use it as your memory, thereby getting around the need to pay $200~ for a proprietary hard drive.
    From what I've read, that 'hack' works if the HDD in question is a very specific type (i.e. same part number as an MS branded HDD). You overwrite the drive's firmware with the firmware from an official 120GB 360 HDD. doesn't work with any other HDD and what you're left with is indistinguishable from the real thing because for all intents and purposes it *is* the real thing. In which case it seems unlikely that MS could somehow disable it but I stand to be corrected on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shieldwolf View Post
    I'm asking because shelling out 199.00 dollars for 120 gig hd is robbery. I can find it on ebay for a 1/3 of that, but if it's going to be bricked my microsoft I don't want to buy it.
    FWIW the 120GB drive is $135 on Amazon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpug View Post
    FWIW the 120GB drive is $135 on Amazon.
    About $80 more than i'd like to pay for it.

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    Agreed. That's why I'm so tempted to buy the 69 dollar one on ebay.

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    69 dollars to get blacklisted?

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    About $80 more than i'd like to pay for it.
    Seriously. The ONLY reason I have a 120GB drive is because we got some extra Gears cash at one point and I thought I would grab one with that. It's ridiculously over priced.

    And then my 360 died and I replaced it with a 120GB Elite so now I have an extra drive sitting around. Damn you, universe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dermot View Post
    From what I've read, that 'hack' works if the HDD in question is a very specific type (i.e. same part number as an MS branded HDD). You overwrite the drive's firmware with the firmware from an official 120GB 360 HDD. doesn't work with any other HDD and what you're left with is indistinguishable from the real thing because for all intents and purposes it *is* the real thing. In which case it seems unlikely that MS could somehow disable it but I stand to be corrected on that.
    That's my understanding of how it works as well. I don't think such a drive is usable on a 360 at all without overwriting the drive firmware with the 360 HDD firmware, so as demot said, the 360 already thinks a hacked drive is an MS drive. I'm not sure how they'd single those out. If the next dashboard update bricks a bunch of hacked hard drives, we'll certainly hear about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon G Sides View Post
    About $80 more than i'd like to pay for it.
    Well, the MSRP sucks but they were all over the damn place for $60 when they brought out the 60gb one (most retail stores only carry the 60gb now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenM View Post
    Seriously. The ONLY reason I have a 120GB drive is because we got some extra Gears cash at one point and I thought I would grab one with that. It's ridiculously over priced.
    Overpriced and with no other viable alternative. That's why I got it. Needed/wanted extra storage so what to do..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenM View Post
    And then my 360 died and I replaced it with a 120GB Elite so now I have an extra drive sitting around. Damn you, universe!
    Can't you and Shieldwolf work something out? He's willing to pay $69.

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    No worries. Cloned hard drives continue to work as normal with the latest update.

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    If you're not concerned about getting caught with a modified drive then you might as well do it yourself instead of paying someone on ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpug View Post
    FWIW the 120GB drive is $135 on Amazon.
    Thanks for catching the price drop. Just ordered one. Should hopefully be a big upgrade from the current 60GB (which seemed so big when I had a 20GB). Hate the MS price gouging, but don't want to have my xbox banned either.

    Diego

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenM View Post
    Seriously. The ONLY reason I have a 120GB drive is because we got some extra Gears cash at one point and I thought I would grab one with that. It's ridiculously over priced.

    And then my 360 died and I replaced it with a 120GB Elite so now I have an extra drive sitting around. Damn you, universe!
    Yeah, my 120GB drive appeared due to a dead xbox needing replacement. I went with an elite since I thought they were less prone to dying...sadly this was not the case.

    I do like the extra space for installing games though, it's nice not listening to that racket while I play a game.

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    My Xbox has a 20GB drive, and I absolutely refuse to upgrade it until Microsoft decides to be reasonable with the prices. I know I'm not the only one, either. It somehow seems wrong that I have to pay through the nose for a device that does nothing but store other stuff that I'm also paying for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Majkut View Post
    My Xbox has a 20GB drive, and I absolutely refuse to upgrade it until Microsoft decides to be reasonable with the prices. I know I'm not the only one, either. It somehow seems wrong that I have to pay through the nose for a device that does nothing but store other stuff that I'm also paying for.
    Agreed. That and i'm broke, so I don't really have a choice.

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    I'm trying to think of any other industry that charges you so heavily for the container that stores their product. For example, if you get a propane tank for your grill, they're pretty much just charging you for the fuel in it. They care so little about the containers that you can just swap them out instead of refilling the one that you have. The propane companies understand that the money is in selling propane, not propane tanks. You practically give the containers away, and then make all of your money by selling people gas to put in them.

    Does this analogy suck, or not? :)

    I could understand if the hard drives could be used for anything. Like a PC hard drive, for example. When Western Digital sells you a drive, they have to make their money on it because you can put anything you want on that drive. They have no way of generating revenue from the software that you're going to install on there. However, when Microsoft sells you a drive for your 360, the one and only thing you can store on there is Xbox stuff. Saved games, games that you paid for and installed to the hard drive, content you've paid to download, etc. They're double dipping, in a sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Majkut View Post
    It somehow seems wrong that I have to pay through the nose for a device that does nothing but store other stuff that I'm also paying for.
    MS is nothing if not masters of irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Majkut View Post
    Does this analogy suck, or not? :)
    A little. Hard drives are reusable - propane is not. Your analogy would only work if they sell you magnetic tape by the yard and you then reel it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Seiler View Post
    A little. Hard drives are reusable - propane is not. Your analogy would only work if they sell you magnetic tape by the yard and you then reel it up.
    Actually, in his analogy the hard disk is the tank, not the propane itself so it still works. Of course, it still sucks as well.

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