Illuminated / Backlit Keyboards - Advice Wanted

**Slainte Mhath** · 10-23-2009, 09:33 AM

My son wants an illuminated (backlit) keyboard for his PC, preferrably in blue since his tricked out case LEDs are all blue. I've been scouring the web for such keyboards, and there are many choices and price ranges.

I really don't want to spend $75-$100+ on some crazy "gaming" keyboard. I'd rather spend $50 or less and get something that resembles a standard keyboard or multi-media keyboard with blue backlighting.

This Saitek one on Amazon seems to fit the bill: http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-PZ30AU-...6315091&sr=1-2

My questions:

#1) Anyone own this and care to comment on it? How is the backlighting, decent or dim? How is the keyboard in terms of ease of use and function?

#2) Anyone got an alternative they like that is under $50?

Thanks!

**rei** · 10-23-2009, 09:44 AM

i had one, was fine just didn't work in trackmania games since it detects as multiple usb devices. only works if you disable one of the usb hid devices in device adapter.

this is an old model so should be cheaper (i see that it is, at that link) although the eclipse IS a gaming keyboard.

**mystery** · 10-23-2009, 09:48 AM

I use the Microsoft Reclusa, which is a real workhorse, considering the awful things I do to it.

**WarrenM** · 10-23-2009, 09:52 AM

I'm using a Saitek right now and the backlighting is, honestly, kind of hard to notice. I guess if the room was pitch black it would mean something but in general use you won't see it much.

In terms of use and function, I LOVE these Saitek keyboards. Good solid feel for typing.

**rei** · 10-23-2009, 10:10 AM

The Logitech Illuminated one is the one I use currently.

**Gendal** · 10-23-2009, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by rei

The Logitech Illuminated one is the one I use currently.

This one?:
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news...-non-gamer.ars

Bought a few for the family awhile back and they all love it. The only reason I don't use it myself is because for obvious reasons it's not wireless.

**Ben Sones** · 10-23-2009, 10:30 AM

I use the Saitek one, and like it a lot. It has just the right level of backlighting for me. Enough to make the keys easy to see when the room lights are out, but not enough to be annoying (especially with the color set to red). I also like the key action quite a bit, but that's more of a subjective thing. I think you should always try out keyboards in a store before you buy to see if the key action is to your liking.

**barstein** · 10-23-2009, 10:30 AM

Last week I started using the Logitech rei and Gendal are talking about, and I'm very happy with it. Three different backlight intensities (including off, naturally) and very easy to use.

**Slainte Mhath** · 10-23-2009, 10:43 AM

For those who own the Saitek and Logitek (non-gaming) keyboards, are the keys "quiet" (i.e. they can have a tactile click, but not be clunky noisy when you type)?

**WarrenM** · 10-23-2009, 10:56 AM

Slainte

The Saitek isn't silent but it certainly doesn't have a "clack". It feels great though.

**barstein** · 10-23-2009, 10:58 AM

I would venture a guess that the the Logitech Illuminated sits somewhere in the "stealthy" part of the keyboard noisiness spectrum. No actual sharp click, per se, but there is a soft sound. And it feels good to the touch.

Caveat: My previous keyboards were mostly Logitech Internet models (all noisier) and the cheapies that ship with new PCs.

**Slainte Mhath** · 10-23-2009, 11:34 AM

He's got one of those "cheapies" now, so any improvement over the CLACK! will be noticeable. Given the reviews on the site, the comments here and the price ($35 with free shipping) I think we'll try the Saitek model. I'll let him be the guinea pig, then get one for myself later if he ends up liking it. =)

Thanks guys!

Now, for Christmas perhaps a Microsoft Habu mouse?

**Omniscia** · 10-23-2009, 11:58 AM

I have the Eclipse in red, and I quite like it. Typing action is decent, the backlighting is neither too bright nor too dull, and it's fairly compact.

**Adam Altmann** · 10-23-2009, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Slainte Mhath

#1) Anyone own this and care to comment on it? How is the backlighting, decent or dim? How is the keyboard in terms of ease of use and function?

I own that keyboard. The backlighting has two brightness settings. The most dim setting is...pretty dim, the higher setting is good. It's not going to light up the room or anything, though. If there's enough ambient light in the room the backlighting is practically useless, but if you're using it in a room with all the lights off you'll be able to see which keys are which. I wouldn't complain if the backlighting were a little brighter, but whatever.

The keyboard has a great feel to it. I don't regret the purchase at all.

You can get it for a few bucks cheaper at Newegg.

**ARogan** · 10-23-2009, 12:48 PM

I have a saitek but I only use it at lan parties. The adjustable light levels is a nice touch. It feels good. I have no problems with it. Just for everyday use I prefer split keyboards.

**Lizard_King** · 10-23-2009, 08:37 PM

The logitech is great. It's slightly louder than the dinovo it replaced, but a hell of a lot cheaper and the only option now that I've gone all wired. I think it was rei that recommended it to me in the first place, and I've never looked back.

**barstein** · 08-18-2010, 07:27 PM

Even though I've only been using the Logitech Illuminated Ultra since October and I'm mostly happy with it, I'm glad to see some new competition in the form of the Razer BlackWidow and BlackWidow Ultimate (currently first page of engadget.com).

My only complaint about the Logitech is that the keys don't have a high enough profile and/or are spaced a little too close together, and so are harder to distinguish by feel. I've pretty much adapted, but it still distracts me sometimes.

I'll wait for the reviews but I'm already gearing up to buy the non-ultimate version and pass my Logitech Illuminated onto my daughter.

**RyanMichael** · 08-18-2010, 07:51 PM

Are any of you Logitech owners (I'm assuming we're talking about this one) fast typists? I've heard that model has keyblocking issues that can be problematic in gaming or fast typing situations.

I want a solid illuminated keyboard, wired or wireless doesn't matter, I just can't put my money on something with such an obvious design flaw.

**Lizard_King** · 08-18-2010, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by rei

The Logitech Illuminated one is the one I use currently.

I went with rei's recommendation on this, and now own one for each computer. I have never had any keyblocking issues in gaming or my average-speed typing. FWIW, my wife hasn't either, and she's a pretty damned fast typist. I think for the money it's hard to beat, and I appreciate that it's relatively quiet and short distance "laptop-style" keys rather than CLACK CLACK CLACK.

I tried a variety of wired gaming keyboards including the Razer Lycosa, but much like their mice they seem to be an acquired taste. I just didn't need ninetey percent of the features, didn't appreciate the aesthetic, and didn't like the feel and sound of it.

**RyanMichael** · 08-18-2010, 07:59 PM

Hey LK, mind running some tests using this software?

http://uberoptions.net/logitech-keyblocking

I'm wondering if perhaps they might have re-engineered the keyblocking on that keyboard to be less horrible.

**barstein** · 08-18-2010, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by RyanMichael

Are any of you Logitech owners (I'm assuming we're talking about this one) fast typists? I've heard that model has keyblocking issues that can be problematic in gaming or fast typing situations.

I want a solid illuminated keyboard, wired or wireless doesn't matter, I just can't put my money on something with such an obvious design flaw.

Depends on how flexible you are, and what kinds of games you are playing with your keyboard. I'm a fast typist and I notice the keyblocking issue from time to time, but it's far from being a dealbreaker for me because I didn't have to sacrifice anything in order to adapt. And I was warned in advance and braced myself for possible problems.

Some typists (or gamers, more likely) who are more dependent on (or just in the habit of) pressing more than two keys at a time on a regular basis will have a much harder time with that than I did, so if you have a local reseller I think a buy-it-and-try-it strategy would be wisest.

**Lizard_King** · 08-18-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by RyanMichael

Hey LK, mind running some tests using this software?

http://uberoptions.net/logitech-keyblocking

I'm wondering if perhaps they might have re-engineered the keyblocking on that keyboard to be less horrible.

So, I'm not sure what exactly I'm looking for, so I just held down keys simultaneously to see if they registered. For instance,
A,S,D,F,G could all register simultaneously, but no adjacent letter keys could be held down (J, however, could make it in as the sixth.

Modifier keys (space, shift, etc) could be held down at the same time as the sixth key, and and many combos were stackable on top of that (alt, ctrl, space, shift + 5 letters).

And true to the website, only 3/4 of each block of function keys up to (again) the max of six total keys.

Everything on the numeric keypad counts towards the 6 key total, irrespective of num lock, as well as the arrow keys and home,insert, delete, etc.

**RyanMichael** · 08-18-2010, 08:34 PM

Hrm, that sounds totally usable then. I'll have to grab myself one of those puppies.

**rei** · 08-18-2010, 08:55 PM

my illuminated one gets greasy/dirty though that i can't seem to clean. there's a new backlit one from logitech out.

**rei** · 08-18-2010, 10:04 PM

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...xaNPs32n3rUirQ

$59.99 from dell canada.

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