11-23-2011, 01:54 PM
This is the dumbest criticism of the show I have read. You're a moron.
Originally Posted by Aeon221
11-23-2011, 02:03 PM
"WHY WON'T HE DIE!"
Neither are you.
Originally Posted by Aeon221
11-23-2011, 02:16 PM
I keep forgetting that the show is a documentary about zombies in Georgia. That kind of inaccuracy is unforgivable.
11-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Bingo! I agree. I think Lori is repulsive -- she looks like a zombie. I was thinking that most of the cast characters are not attractive at all.
Originally Posted by Angrycoder
then I realized my mistake. I have been programmed to think that every character on a major TV show should look like 90210/Dawson's Creek/Melrose Place types. It's actually refreshing that the main characters are not attractive. It makes it a little more real.
11-23-2011, 02:28 PM
Things I would like to see:
When they go into town for supplies, how about hitting a store other than the pharmacy? Sure, we're all supposed to care about Lori and her mood swings, but how about if they pick up some stuff from the hardware store or the feed shop? A modern farm is not totally self-sufficient. Especially when they're running their generator all the time.
Somebody needs to actually see the opportunity in all of this. Aside from Andrea stealing a necklace and Shane getting a nicer car out of the highway traffic jam, nobody has done any serious looting. They've still got the same shitty RV, Darryl is still the only one with a weapon that can kill silently, and the farm people have trucks that were old before I was born. I want to see somebody taking stuff just because it's there, and they can. Like when Glenn went joyriding in the Mustang. The entire world is a dollar store, let loose a little.
Lori, dead. This should probably go at the top of the list.
11-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Well you're Lori, so neener neener!
Originally Posted by Raife
11-23-2011, 03:19 PM
how about just cleaning out the pharmacy all at once since its a safe bet they are going to need most of that stuff? the characters on this show make the dumbest choices ever.
11-23-2011, 04:45 PM
I think having them do some sustained looting is a great idea. Besides the fact that it's what people in that situation would really do, it gives the characters a chance to be pro-active. They can still have their character drama. Lori/Shane/Rick still plays out the same, just against a backdrop of them looting, instead of them loafing around the farm.
Even if Herschel didn't want anything, they can still be outfitting themselves since they aren't doing anything else except searching for the kid(and not all of them are even doing that). It occurs to me that Herschel, living there, may well have whatever he wants by this point. For instance, I can see myself just sticking with my trusty tractor if I was him, instead of immediately getting another one. Assuming my trusty tractor does the job of course.
11-23-2011, 06:57 PM
I find it funny that someone is criticizing the show for not looking like Atlanta. I've recognized almost every location they've used. Of course, I used to work in the building they did the roof shots on (used to be Norfolk Southern's primary offices in Atlanta), so I probably have an unfair advantage and am not relying on them using fapping fan service shots of landmarks for no reason at all.
I bet Aeon is upset because they didn't show the Big Chicken!
11-23-2011, 07:10 PM
I bet Aeon is upset because he has a tiny zombie penis.
11-24-2011, 01:50 PM
He's a walker, not a talker.
11-24-2011, 04:16 PM
Throw me in with not understanding the Atlanta complaints. I've been through the city numerous times... you can see that it has a decent built-up portion. Yeah, most of it is sprawl, it's not exactly Philadelphia in terms of scope of skyline, but they didn't really try to portray Atlanta as something that it's not, either.
The only legitimate complaint is that the group goes to center city to get supplies when they should be hitting up any number of Wal Marts in the surrounding suburbs.
11-25-2011, 07:19 AM
Originally Posted by Tin Wisdom
The suburban scenes were the best ones in this episode in my opinion. From the first glimpse with the garbage sitting by the curb, to the final shot of the zombies closing in from all sides it was the creepiest thing they've done since season one. I longed to hear more about what happened in that house, from the walled off hallway to the stairs with the dead zombie pileup tot he garage with the burned corpses. Did the owners try to make a stand and fail? Did they escape? It would have been a great 5 minutes or so to have Shane looking at the scene and narrate what he thought might have happened based on the evidence, and it wouldn't even have been a stretch given that he was a police officer prior to the ZA. The whole thing reminded me so much of my own neighborhood that I could not stop thinking about what I would do to protect my kids if something like that happened here, and THAT is good TV.
This show needs less Lori/Rick/Shane melodrama and far more of the thought provoking and creepy scenes of the ZA both before the show's timeline and after. The webisode was a perfect example of this, and that sort of thing could be easily incorporated into the show by having other survivors recount their experiences in the first days of the ZA and by having the merry band do a little more exploration and looting (as mentioned in previous posts) with a little bit of exposition laid over the top so that we get a feel for what happened in the places they visit.
Bottom line, this show is stalling big time. It's gone from being an exciting and geniunely scary story about a zombie apocalypse (remember how those first couple of episodes with Rick waking up and the Lennie James side story felt?) to a mostly boring and trite character melodrama about relationships and how people fall apart under stress. That stuff is fine, as long as you don't lose site of the reason said people are under stress, the zombie freaking apocalypse. Either they pick things up in the second half of the season, or they should just chuck it and go with the brilliant idea someone suggested of having Daryl and Glenn star in a spaghetti western set in the ZA.
11-25-2011, 09:05 AM
I really enjoyed the suburban scenes too, but the one thing that annoyed me was how neatly lined up the garbage cans were. They should have been knocked over and more torn apart by the wildlife.
11-25-2011, 09:41 AM
Because that fucks over everyone else in the area. I think Maggie mentioned that on the first trip .. something about how the town had agreed, "take what you need but no more". So it's a shared resource.
Originally Posted by Vivianne
11-25-2011, 10:19 AM
I agree with everything you said except one thing: Shane explaining it would've completely ruined the scene, just like Shane talking has ruined so many other scenes in this show. It's a more powerful statement when all that stuff is just there, sort of in the background but more interesting than what's going on in the foreground. If Shane stops looking for Sophia and starts breaking down game film on every house they walk into, it would instantly go from powerful to annoying. Some things don't need to be explained. In fact, I would say this show would be a lot better if they cut out half the dialog.
Originally Posted by Slainte Mhath
11-26-2011, 03:14 PM
Who else in the area? Shared between who? When was this decided, at the town council meeting? "Issue 1: The world ended, what should we do with our remaining antibiotic supples?"
Originally Posted by WarrenM
Like, are there other random people just chilling at their strangely undefended houses in the middle of the apocalypse that we haven't seen? if so, why would you decide to store critical supplies in a dangerous area instead of at someone's house?
11-26-2011, 03:57 PM
I think they're going for a rural small town 'everyone knows everyone' vibe.
It's likely everyone who lives in that area goes to the same church, and so on.
So when this disaster hits, they all bunker in their respective locations which they've prepared for this purpose. I bet most of the supplies they make runs for are of the type we've seen. Totally off the wall unexpected stuff. Does anyone think Herschel ever planned to do surgery? I don't. So why the hell would he stockpile surgery supplies?
Now repeat that for any neighbors still around. They only make runs due to unforeseen circumstances. In that scenario it makes sense to leave everything where it is and don't waste your time or space on stuff you might not ever need. A side benefit is it allows the town to remain quiet and therefore as zombie free as possible.
11-26-2011, 07:48 PM
I finally got around to watching the webisodes, and I thought they were pretty good.
I could watch ones on every zombie we've seen killed!
11-26-2011, 09:22 PM
The sign in the window of the pharmacy has been referenced like a dozen times in this thread. The people at the farm were pretty clearly honoring that. I think the main survivor group would have a totally different looting approach if they were on their own.
I liked the suburb scene too, as well as the pharmacy scare. More zombies, dammit.
Also, anyone else think farm girl is going to die a grisly death soon causing Glenn to get more jaded? They've been spending a lot of time setting that up.
Last edited by Raife; 11-26-2011 at 09:27 PM.
11-26-2011, 09:32 PM
Thanks for reminding me to watch the webisodes. Only 6 so far, right?
Originally Posted by drewl
I watched them all.. pretty sad actually. yuck.. .poor kids.
11-26-2011, 09:32 PM
No, I dont think she is going to die anytime soon. I think the two will hook up for a bit longer.
Originally Posted by Raife
11-26-2011, 11:54 PM
My money's on Lori. And by that, I mean that I am offering money to the person who kills Lori.
11-27-2011, 12:06 AM
If you widen that to include zombies, it's more likely to happen. Unless you were using the Hershel 'person' definition, in which case, you're a weirdo.
Originally Posted by Shadarr
11-27-2011, 08:28 AM
What do zombies need with money? Offer brains.
Originally Posted by Shadarr
11-27-2011, 12:21 PM
Just another nitpick: I'm watching a repeat of Rick and Darryl cutting open a Zombie stomach to see if it ate the missing little girl, these people are in way too close contact not to have been infected by now.
Whether smearing zombie guts on themsleves or close contact head splattering, the chances are they would have swallowed some zombie molecules flying through the air.
11-27-2011, 03:34 PM
Some director guy on The Talking Dead said the issue of whether zombieism (sp?) can be transmitted by something other than a bite will be addressed this season ... and there's not exactly much of this season left (well, unless he's calling this a half-season).
11-27-2011, 05:47 PM
Naw, tonight is episode 7 of 13, so we've got plenty of screen-time to introduce that little chestnut this season.
11-27-2011, 06:45 PM
Talking dead is 1hour tonight... Set yer pvrs
11-27-2011, 07:10 PM
I guess it's because we never really got any backstory to the whole reason or cause we're left to fill in the gaps with our own speculations or theories.
Originally Posted by Dan_Theman
Aww...man....tonight's ending was just brutal....