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    Yeah, looks like God doesn't like this bunch of characters either. I like the production value, but am still having trouble following any particular character. The lead sheriff is boring and the actor has pretty much 1 note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Bunny View Post
    This is where I have to link:

    http://zombieshootersassociation.com/

    Yes, this is a real thing and they just held a combo match/wedding last weekend. Clothing is available, Cliff Walsh wore a ZSA hat throughout the World Shoot.

    H.

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    Thanks for ruining zombies forever, internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe Lewis View Post
    Thanks for ruining zombies forever, internet.
    Or, more specifically, Max Brooks.

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    Seriously, they couldn't spot 200 freaking zombies shuffling up the highway behind them?

    They could have atleast shown them emerging from the woods or something, to make it slightly less ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalle View Post
    Seriously, they couldn't spot 200 freaking zombies shuffling up the highway behind them?

    They could have atleast shown them emerging from the woods or something, to make it slightly less ridiculous.
    Less rediculous THAN THEIR EXISTANCE!? Sheesh. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. Your over-thinking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedTheFreak View Post
    Less rediculous THAN THEIR EXISTANCE!? Sheesh. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. Your over-thinking it.
    Dude, you need an editor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mystery View Post
    Dude, you need an editor.
    Unless the misspellings were some kind of intentional meta-thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedTheFreak View Post
    Less rediculous THAN THEIR EXISTANCE!? Sheesh. Sit back, relax, and enjoy. Your over-thinking it.
    Are you twelve? Genre conventions are no excuse for scripted stupidity or production oversights and if your only response to a mildly critical examination of a work of fiction is "IT'S NOT REAL DURR" then I wonder why you even bother coming into a thread where people discuss said works of fiction.

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    They made a point of showing the guy on top of the RV looking around constantly, with binoculars. Then this mass of zombies shows up out of nowhere. That's just sloppy writing/directing.

    At the zombies' speed there is no way they got that close in the short time he was looking the other way. With that amount of zombies there is no way they all manage to stay hidden on the highway till they are that close. They needed to reduce the number of zombies so we could at least believe they could stay hidden that long. It could still be too many for the survivors to kill quietly, since tons of gunfire would bring too many new zombies.

    Other than that I liked the episode. I don't blame Andrea for wanting a gun and being pissed off they wouldn't give her one. It's not their place to make that decision for her.

    One thing that made me laugh, the "my knife is sharper" reasoning, followed by a full strenth Hassan chop gouging. Dude, ANY knife would work if you use it like that. Heck, a pointy stick would work then.

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    That's kind of silly to criticize. Daryl has a little bit of an ego, of course his knife is sharper/bigger/stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post
    That was OK. I'm not sure I was bored, but it's very noticeably going in some direction that the comics aren't predicting. I think that's a bad thing, as it means god knows how long until things happen that are supposed to happen, that probably won't happen anymore. Blah.
    Completely disagree with you guys - think the episode was amazing; easily the best one since the original premiere. And while I'm usually a huge believer in fidelity to the source material, this is one rare instance where I think the source material deserves to be overwritten. I much prefer the divergent plot/characters over the original ones.

    Just loving this show - hope that won't change once we get to the 2nd half of the season after Darabont was given the boot.

    Also, it's really, really annoying to not have the option to watch the show in HD thanks to fucking Rogers Cable. I haven't watched any of the AMC shows as a result, so I'm also going to have to catch up on Breaking Bad.

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    Good opener for the season. How many episodes are there going to be? Hopefully more than six this time.

    Also the church was Southern Baptist according to the sign. A Southern Baptist church wouldn't have a crucifix in it - that would be too Catholic for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post
    That's kind of silly to criticize. Daryl has a little bit of an ego, of course his knife is sharper/bigger/stronger.
    It wasn't criticism, it was a comment on a funny character quirk. He made it sound like he was going to use his scalpel on some delicate work, and in reality he butchered him like he was cutting up a chicken.

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    Did anyone watch the Talking Dead aftershow? I thought this was pretty good, actually. They had Patton Oswalt, some other dude and Robert Kirkman. They showed some behind the scenes stuff, like the making of the stomach scenes.

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    That was James Gunn. Wrote/directed Slither and the more recent Super, wrote the remake of Dawn Of The Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post
    You don't think Wal-Mart is one of the first places that would:

    1) be raided and ransacked almost immediately, causing:

    2) people killing each other in the store with guns while trying to get more guns, causing:

    3) Wal-Mart to have a fuckton of zombies to deal with in order to get the guns


    They got what they could from a place that was one of the most secure during the whole month he was in the hospital... the police station.
    #3 doesn't apply because if killed while unbitten they wouldn't be reanimated....as far as we know.


    Decent episode, though it did drag a bit, and hiding under the cars was bad, the dead would have smelled them.

    First of all, go get a few brand new Hummers or other nice SUV's that won't break down for 100K miles.
    Plenty of room and better mileage than a frickin RV.
    And yes, the Harley is way too loud.
    get a Ninja if you want to feel the wind in your hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mystery View Post
    Dude, you need an editor.
    Oh God, I've mis spelled a word! WTF will I ever do with my fool self? Yikes man, relax a little. You're going to turn that coal into a diamond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalle View Post
    Are you twelve? Genre conventions are no excuse for scripted stupidity or production oversights and if your only response to a mildly critical examination of a work of fiction is "IT'S NOT REAL DURR" then I wonder why you even bother coming into a thread where people discuss said works of fiction.
    The problem with observations that sparked my comment are this - if zombies are dealt with easily and they are always seen from miles off... where is the drama? The tension? It would get boring pretty quickly.

    Zombies do whatever the writers tell them to do. Why was this one in a car that this specific character opened? Becuase it was written that way. Since, you know, fantasy. It's silly to nit-pick a single thing and then let something else slide. Just snort your derision at the entire genre, or enjoy it when a horde of zombies sneaks up on the characters. It would seem few folks can do both.

    I come to this thead to discuss what was cool about a show I'm enjoying. There seems to be less of that here though, which is too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameoverman View Post
    It wasn't criticism, it was a comment on a funny character quirk. He made it sound like he was going to use his scalpel on some delicate work, and in reality he butchered him like he was cutting up a chicken.
    His technique comes from his deer-hunting experience. That's what makes him useful. The expressions on Rick's face during that scene were pretty hilarious.

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    I watched this on AMC's website. Way too many ads. I couldn't get into the flow of anything at all. Beyond that, the whole talking to Jesus scene, then the deer scene was too ridiculous and boring. I just got finished watching the first season on Netflix, which I enjoyed, but I'm not sure I'm going to come back for episode 2.

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    Holy fucking ads. I don't even know what I just watched. I'll pay the 2 bucks for the Amazon video next time...

    That deer incident seemed an exercise in continually escalating stupid in a single scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerri blank View Post
    Her speech to Dale about how he's not her hero for forcing her hand at the CDC was good.
    If by good you mean it showed her to be a selfish emotional infant. I suppose that's consistent though, as she's been established as such in a couple scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedTheFreak View Post
    The problem with observations that sparked my comment are this - if zombies are dealt with easily and they are always seen from miles off... where is the drama? The tension? It would get boring pretty quickly.

    Zombies do whatever the writers tell them to do. Why was this one in a car that this specific character opened? Becuase it was written that way. Since, you know, fantasy. It's silly to nit-pick a single thing and then let something else slide. Just snort your derision at the entire genre, or enjoy it when a horde of zombies sneaks up on the characters. It would seem few folks can do both.

    I come to this thead to discuss what was cool about a show I'm enjoying. There seems to be less of that here though, which is too bad.
    The problem is, the crappy writing makes the actions of the characters frustratingly arbitrary. I hated that they didn't set up sentries when they got ambushed in camp last season. So now they have two people looking out, one from a high vantage point with binoculars, on a clear day and basically unobstructed views, and suddenly there's hundreds of zombies 50 feet away? They what's the point of even having lookouts? That's just bullshit.

    Next week are the zombies going to be driving cars? Bulletproof? If the writers bend the laws of physics and common sense (over and above what's inherently baked into the premise of a zombie show), then nothing that happens has meaning.

    Don't get me started on the cheesiness of the zombies sitting neatly in the pews, or the irritatingness of wosserface whining because she didn't get to commit suicide. If she wants to commit suicide she can scrape herself against whatever it was that made the black dude gush blood like he was in a samurai movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warning View Post
    Good opener for the season. How many episodes are there going to be? Hopefully more than six this time.

    Also the church was Southern Baptist according to the sign. A Southern Baptist church wouldn't have a crucifix in it - that would be too Catholic for them.
    The zombies moved it in. They thought it might attract an en-cop who would come ask God for a sign. Their zombies but they are not stupid.
    Last edited by Jupiter Jones; 10-17-2011 at 11:36 PM.

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    Agreed Hugin, the writing around the zombies is very inconsistent. I find the greatest variance is their degree of awareness. Tonight we had zombies with a sensory reach of maybe five feet.

    They also don't seem to come from logical places, but may as well be teleporting in when the writers need them. I expected zombies at the line of cars, both mobile and seat belted grabbers, but instead there seemed to be some sort of migration randomly passing by. It didn't even seem they could have been stirred up by the arrival of the people, as they really weren't aware of them when a few feet away.

    The camp attack was similar. I'd think that was part of a slowly expanding zombie front from the city, but in that case far more zombies should have converged on the camp moments later, drawn by the commotion. Instead it seems a random migrating pack of (far more aware than episode 2.1) zombies blundered into them. I'd think after any attack your doctrine would call for immediate relocation to avoid more zombies drawn by the sound, but apparently in this show you get to hang out for hours, unless of course it would be dramatic to have zombies converge, as in the house at the first episode, or at the store in the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugin View Post
    The problem is, the crappy writing makes the actions of the characters frustratingly arbitrary. I hated that they didn't set up sentries when they got ambushed in camp last season. So now they have two people looking out, one from a high vantage point with binoculars, on a clear day and basically unobstructed views, and suddenly there's hundreds of zombies 50 feet away? They what's the point of even having lookouts? That's just bullshit.

    Next week are the zombies going to be driving cars? Bulletproof? If the writers bend the laws of physics and common sense (over and above what's inherently baked into the premise of a zombie show), then nothing that happens has meaning.

    Don't get me started on the cheesiness of the zombies sitting neatly in the pews, or the irritatingness of wosserface whining because she didn't get to commit suicide. If she wants to commit suicide she can scrape herself against whatever it was that made the black dude gush blood like he was in a samurai movie.
    Excellent points. Perhaps Dale was spending too much time looking forward and not enough looking behind? And all the vehicles provided cover for the undead (inadvertantly, of course)? The writing could be better, and I'm sure it doesn't help the showrunner was replaced right before filming (or right around then), either. Hopefully these weird little inconsistencies can be cleared up in coming episodes, but for now I at least just suspend my disbelief for the sake of the story.

    Now, hopefully, the story will start going somewhere.

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    Now, hopefully, the story will start going somewhere.
    Huh? It's not like the book's story goes anywhere, certainly not more so than the show.

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    I'm gonna create a little macro on my laptop that pastes in the last verse of the MST3K theme song.

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