06-19-2012, 06:33 PM
20:20'ed McCabe & Mrs Miller
Everything feels great to me, except for JGL talking to that kid. Don't know why. Maybe I don't like kids!
06-19-2012, 08:07 PM
Wait, Tom Hardy is playing Bane? How the hell did I miss that particular detail?
06-19-2012, 09:29 PM
06-19-2012, 09:50 PM
I swear, if Nolan spends another movie focusing on hapless Batman and an unstoppable bad guy, I will quit him. Also, How does Hardy not have his own spy/superhero/solider or some combination thereof franchise by now? He could make Bob Ross menacing, intense, and witty all at the same time. Well, more of those things.
The cake is a lie!
Originally Posted by malkav11
06-20-2012, 05:13 AM
He's the new Mad Max, which he just started filming with Charlize Theron.
Originally Posted by rhinohelix
06-20-2012, 05:52 AM
Wecome to Matrix Revolutions: 2012
06-20-2012, 02:14 PM
That is my one real complaint about Nolan's 2nd Batman film: always at least one step behind, always being outwitted or manipulated, always stepping into a trap rather than detecting and circumventing it, etc. Not to forget what appeared to be a complete change in fighting style and effectiveness between the first two movies.
Originally Posted by rhinohelix
06-20-2012, 02:22 PM
I wouldn't say that; he wasn't being outsmarted in the beginning, and he had effectively defeated the Joker in the middle, though there were far-reaching consequences he hadn't anticipated and it all went south afterwards and the same thing happened at the end. The chaos that the Joker conceives is what Batman couldn't anticipate, which was kind of the whole point, since the Joker is the anti-Batman.
06-20-2012, 03:29 PM
If by defeating the Joker in the middle you mean doing exactly what the Joker wanted and had made plans for, then you're correct to write that.
I just wanted a scene where Bats actually had the upper-hand for once in the film. But even in the end, with those f'n dogs on a leash right in front of him, does he pull out a throwing weapon? Does he take to the air? Nope, just stands there as the dogs charge and gets taken down and has the unholy shit beaten out of him, winning in the end only thru a foreshadowed gadget.
And I expect more of the same from the third. Annoying but not a deal breaker. I loved TDK despite that one niggling issue that probably didn't occur to me until the 2nd or 3rd viewing.
06-21-2012, 01:21 AM
To be fair, Batman is basically working through a parade of his most capable and dangerous villains in these movies. This isn't bullshit like Riddler or Penguin or Killer Croc or Clayface or whatever. There are some lesser villains in the mix, but they're never the main event. I expect the Joker or Bane to have the upper hand on Batman rather often. If I had to choose the three "best" batman villains, I'd have named the 3 lead villains from these movies, although Ra's al Ghul in the first movie is only sort of Ra's al Ghul.
06-21-2012, 06:09 AM
I agree. I don't think it would be very engaging to watch Batman bust into a crime scene, analyze the clues, then go snatch up The Riddler with one punch.
06-21-2012, 10:19 AM
I personally would have liked to have seen a more scaled-back battle of wits between Batman and a villain, and would have loved to see what Nolan could have done with the Riddler. Bane feels like a rehashed Joker, someone out to prove a point by destroying as much real estate as possible.
06-21-2012, 10:29 AM
Bane can be a great villain for a battle of wits (until you get down to the inevitable fistfight), depending on which Bane incarnation they're using. However, in this case the trailers certainly seem to logically lead to your conclusion.
Personally I think the loss of Heath Ledger is a tremendous shame, as I would have loved to see him back as one of the villains in the third movie. (not to say he wasn't a great loss to acting in a larger sense. I think Heath Ledger would have been one of the giants of his generation.)
06-22-2012, 04:07 PM
This looks entertaining from the trailers, but the 168-minute runtime has me real worried. Can't imagine this won't be decent 90 minute dumb action movie with 78 minutes of banal, ham-fisted thematic exposition.
Also, isn't the point of having Tom Hardy in a movie having his vulnerable, mumbly voice? I don't get why get why Nolan/WB are ADRing the heck of out that.
07-03-2012, 07:53 PM
Anyone want to see this five days ahead of schedule and have at least $100 to spare? Come to Vermont, where Senator Patrick Leahy will be hosting a charity screening alongside the CEO of Warner Bros.
I'm interested, but not $100 interested. Certainly not the $1,000-minimum interested to get into the reception beforehand.
07-03-2012, 10:59 PM
Apparently we missed out on a showing last Thursday because our team already had a drinks/dinner booking already paid for so... that's kinda disappointing :/
Hoping maybe we and/or the company can pull something off before release day as I probably won't be seeing it till the next weekend in that case (flying to Austin to see it at an Alamo).
07-03-2012, 11:12 PM
Alan, have you been warned yet about about the new reserved seating at the Alamo?
Originally Posted by Alan Dunkin
07-04-2012, 02:14 PM
What? No. WTF is that?
Originally Posted by Lunch of Kong
07-10-2012, 11:34 AM
07-10-2012, 11:48 AM
If they can put Stan Lee in ever Marvel movie, at least they can put Adam West in every Batman movie.
07-10-2012, 01:09 PM
Entire soundtrack is available via streaming (for free and legally) on Empire at:
I don't think the track names contain any real spoilers.
07-12-2012, 12:59 PM
Pretty cool Mondo poster:
07-15-2012, 01:22 PM
I'm surprised reviews haven't appeared on Rotten Tomatoes yet.
07-16-2012, 08:54 AM
They are now, I looked a few hours ago and it was 100% with 11/11 fresh reviews.
IGN gave it a 9, and while I didn't read the entire thing, I did skim the first few paragraphs and confirm what I didn't like from the trailers - he stopped being batman 8 years prior when Dent died. I call bullshit, Batman wouldn't stop being Batman. WTF.
I do like that it seems to be taking a page from Batman The Dark Knight Returns (graphic novel) in that he's "coming back from retirement". That's neat. I hope I enjoy this, the first two were so good it would be a bummer for this one to not be amazing. By all accounts, it sounds like it is though.
Update - 94% now, with 18/19 reviews. Some asshole wanted less action I guess, or something. Because he's a movie reviewer who hates but still reviews action movies?
07-16-2012, 10:56 AM
Right, I see you're one of those types.
Originally Posted by BleedTheFreak
Always amusing to look at the comments under Rotten reviews of much hyped movies, hundreds of individuals so wrapped up in a movie that they take a difference of opinion incredibly personally.
07-16-2012, 11:11 AM
Sheesh, I was just kidding. No reason to get offended.
07-16-2012, 12:09 PM
Here's another awesome Mondo poster:
Apparently it'll be available for purchase only on Mondo on Wednesday for $40. Anyone who orders on that day will be guaranteed an order (otherwise it's very limited).
07-16-2012, 08:46 PM
Local theater is doing a Nolan marathon, all three Batman movies for $25 Thursday night. Tempting, but the thought of getting home and in bed around 3:30am on a work night at my age rules it out.
07-17-2012, 01:20 AM
Do people here generally feel that Dark Knight is a better movie than Batman Begins? It's interesting, because I always felt Batman Begins is a fantastic film - but Dark Knight is pretty mediocre and possibly Nolan's weakest overall.
So, I'm kinda worried about this one - though I have to say I think Inception is one of his best films - so it's not like he's lost it or anything.
07-17-2012, 01:26 AM
I thought the exact opposite regarding the Batman films. I found Batman Begins one of Nolan's weaker movies, if not the worst he's ever made.
Dark Knight I felt was excellent, even if the plot is a bit weak, at times.