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  1. #391
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    HUGE news today, guys:

    (Reuters) - U.S. authorities settled a massive fraud complaint against the world's most popular online poker company on Tuesday and allowed it to take control of a rival brand, setting the stage for the company to re-enter the burgeoning U.S. market.

    Isle of Man-based PokerStars agreed to forfeit $731 million, including $547 million that could be used to reimburse U.S. customers of the rival, Full Tilt Poker. Full Tilt also agreed to settle and will cease independent operations
    Looks like we may see our funds reimbursed soon and that a new version of PokerStars could appear in those states which legalize online gaming.

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    New update on the PokerStars acquisition of Full Tilt and what that means for US players:

    In breaking news, PocketFives can independently confirm that PokerStars has paid $225 million to the U.S. Department of Justice, consummating the asset transfer of the now-defunct Full Tilt Poker...

    A PokerStars spokesperson told PocketFives on Thursday, "The transaction formally closed today and we are committed to paying back Full Tilt Poker players outside of the U.S. and re-launching the Full Tilt Poker site within 90 days by November 6...

    Meanwhile, U.S. players will be required to submit claims with the U.S. Government in order to be repaid. The process to do so has not yet been announced nor has whether U.S. players will receive their entire account balances or just deposits."

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    Story also touches hardware and games topics, but adding to established discussion here: real-money gambling potentially coming to iPhone in UK...

    Big Fish Casino Raises The Stakes With Real-Money Gambling On The iPhone

    Would you like to bet on what may be the next big thing in games? Place a wager on real-money gambling, and you could be in for some good returns. Today, when games developer Big Fish launched a new iPhone app called Big Fish Casino, it announced it would raise the stakes in the UK by introducing real-money gambling into it (courtesy of well-backed gambling platform Betable) — making this the first time that a real-money game will be available in the App Store.

    This may be a first for the App Store, but it’s part of a growing interest in real-money gambling. The news comes just one week after the introduction of the first real-money gambling app on Facebook (also in the UK) and at the same time that a report has emerged of Zynga lobbying hard to get in-game gambling cleared in the U.S., too.

    The gambling back end for Big Fish Casino will come from Betable, the social betting company that has secured an undisclosed amount of funding from a select group of investors including Greylock, CrunchFund, Yuri Milner’s Start Fund, Founders Fund, True Ventures, Path co-founder Dave Morin, former Wikia CEO Gil Penchina, Delicious’ Josh Schachter, StockTwits’ Howard Lindzon and LOLApps former CEO Arjun Sethi. Up to now, Betable has been operating in private alpha, and this appears to be the first public application of its betting engine in a public service.

    Big Fish Casino is the relaunch of Card Ace: Casino, an app made by Self Aware Studios, which was bought recently by Big Fish. Card Ace already had one million active players, all of whom will transition to the newly-rebranded edition of the game. While real-money gambling is only getting turned on in the UK, users in other markets like the U.S. will be still be able to share chips across different games, chat wth other players, give virtual gifts. The non-gambling version of Casino will be available on Google Play, Amazon’s Appstore, the App Store and Facebook.

    But the really hot action is happening over on the other side of the pond, and only on iOS. The UK version of the iPhone app, which Big Fish says will be coming online “within the next few weeks,” will see users able to put hard currency down on blackjack, roulette and video poker games, with the rollout happening “in the coming months.” Other games in the “casino” include Texas Hold ‘Em and slots.

    TechCrunch understands that the app is still getting approved by Apple at the moment, and Big Fish has not announced whether it plans to extend the real-money gambling to other platforms, or other markets outside of the UK.

    The move to offer real-money gambling in games comes as developers and the platforms that host them look for more ways to keep users engaged, and in the case of developers spending more money. “We have a strong conviction that mobile apps that combine social and real-money gambling are a powerful way to engage more users and increase overall monetization,” said Paul Thelen, Founder and CEO of Big Fish, in a statement.

    Facebook has also started to allow real-money gambling into its walled garden as well. Last week, Gamesys launched Bingo & Slots Friendzy as a new Facebook app, also the first time that real-money gambling had appeared on the social network.

    “Facebook is a place that allows people to connect and share,” a spokesperson told TechCrunch at the time. “Real money gaming is a popular and well-regulated activity in the UK and we are allowing a partner to offer their games to adult users on the Facebook platform in a safe and controlled manner.”

    Indeed, it looks like for now, with U.S. lawmakers yet to approve real-money gambling on social and mobile games, developers are looking to test the waters in the UK, which has more liberal rules and serves as a good gateway not just to looking at usage patterns in Europe, but also in an English speaking country with demographics similar to those in the U.S.

    As for the U.S., Zynga — which has also said that it would like to introduce gambling into its games — appears to be working hard to get legislators to change their mind on their policy. The WSJ reports that the company is investing in lobbying both at the state and federal level to improve the image of gambling services.

    In California, it focused its efforts around the Internet Gambling Consumer Protection and Public-Private Partnership Act of 2012, which the WSJ notes would give gambling companies licenses worth $30 million, and the ability to partner with companies like Zynga to offer online gambling services. That bill is still in play.

    In the meantime, the opportunity outside of the U.S. is huge. Betable’s chief executive, Chris Griffin, told TechCrunch earlier this year internationally, online gambling is currently a $32 billion market, compared to $3 billion for social gaming, which works out to $300 spent in online gambling for every $1 on social gaming.

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    We've had real money gambling on phones for ages in the UK. This may be the first time on iOS (I doubt it, given that Ladbrokes prominently advertises a sports betting iPhone app on its website), but Android has had it since forever and there were java apps for other mobiles before that. I used to play real money poker on my N95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
    We've had real money gambling on phones for ages in the UK. This may be the first time on iOS (I doubt it, given that Ladbrokes prominently advertises a sports betting iPhone app on its website), but Android has had it since forever and there were java apps for other mobiles before that. I used to play real money poker on my N95.
    Apologies--not a close follower of UK mobile scene and unaware of this.

    Appreciate the clarification.

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    To be fair, it's more TechCrunch's fault for being suckered by Big Fish's PR.

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    They are getting ready to loot a whole new generation of people. Good news is, the poorer we get the more we gamble.

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