What they did is a bit like your second suggestion: you control where the character is moving and facing. For the archer, you get a laser-sight so if you lightly hold down fire, you can aim first before fully pulling the trigger, so I actually had a blast playing as an archer. My friend has a blast playing as a dwarven fighter, and everyone had a blast when our other friend would join in as the sorceress. Her magic missile spell was homing and would pick targets automatically. Other spells like fireball were aimed directionally, and meteor shower just showered the whole area. It all worked surprisingly well. It's nothing like the problems console RTS designers face, believe me. Once you play BG: Dark Alliance, you'll be a convert. It's like the Halo of console Diablo games.
P.S. For god's sakes don't play the horrible sequel Dark Alliance 2. Done by a different team, and lost a lot of the charm and polish and addictiveness of the first game.
All right, all right--I can tell we're not going to agree, as I said in my first post. Suggesting that gamepads aren't always right for every game is a hot-button topic for a lot of folks, so let's just leave it alone and get back to talking about Torchlight's awesomness.
Torchlight is so good that I'm taking a new stab at learning the Tristram theme, only this time I've found settings on my amp that sound insanely good.
I absolutely love this game. I am presently duel wielding with an Alchemist and I have an axe in one hand and a wand in the other. So when I'm close up in battle my dude attacks with his axe that has a decent chance to cause enemies to flee in fear, and then when they flee my bad ass wand (best item I've found thus far after 2 hours of playing) attacks with 3 different types of elemental damage. Amazing.
Has anyone got a particularly nice combination of spells for their dog/cat? I've got the zombie horde in one slot, obviously, but I'm completely torn over what to put in the second slot. I can afford to purchase the fireball spell and a fireball spitting, zombie summoning dog sounds ace, but what if there's something better! Argh, decision making.
I'm not sure if I like the fact that Torchlight leaves the choice of difficulties up to the player. So instead of the game being really well tuned from the get-go like in the Diablo games, you soon find yourself wondering "Is it going to stay this easy?" "Should I have started on a higher difficulty?" "Will I be making it too hard later if I start over now?"
From the comments in this thread though, it sounds like "Hard" is the right difficulty to start on. Normal played out way too easy for me (but then again, maybe it was supposed to in the beginning).
This works well with my Alchemist, who's summoning specialized (and otherwise a glass cannon). With 5 imps and a copper golem out, the dog summoning up 2 more critters makes my battles pretty much pointing at monsters and saying: "Uh, kill that."
I'm playing on hard, and while the first few levels were actually very easy, things have gotten more difficult as I've worked my way down the dungeon.
Still early going, but another hearty thumbs up. Runic just nailed the atmosphere, but more importantly, the feel of what this type of game should be like. I was very late to the party and just tried Titan Quest:IT a few months ago - it scratched the Diablo itch pretty well, but it just feels like you are playing underwater. The action in Torchlight moves fast and smooth, just like Diablo. Goodbye TQ, I hardly knew ye.
I sure hope this has good replayability and huge amount of loot, which is so important for this genre.
Oh, and it is wonderful to hear Matt Uelman's music again - the riff on Tristam in the town of Torchlight brought a big old smile to my face.
They should have described those difficulty levels.
EASY - if you never played Diablo or any other action RPG before
NORMAL - if you played Diablo or some other action RPG before, casually
HARD - if you are experienced action RPG gamer
VERY HARD - if you finished Diablo on hell
HARDCORE - do we really need to describe this?
So, I'm far enough in that restarting won't bother me - I hate losing at anything and I've played a ton of Diablo-style games before. Those of you who have more hours - would you throw down at Normal or Hard?
Edit: Dammit - concurrency violation. Stupid barbershop. Needs a semaphore. Other miscellaneous programmer joke.
I'm playing on Hard. If you have played a ton of Diablo-type games before, I wouldn't recommend playing on Normal.
As far as TQ goes, I just wasnever all the way sold. I played it for a bit and went back to it a couple of times, but it never stuck. Tt was definitely missing some of the charm of Diablo and, at least early on, it appears that Torchlight has recaptured it. BTW, Diablo is one of the few games I have ever actually finished, so it is not like it is a genre I am neutral on.
Currently level 12 on my Vanquisher, I get to the 7th Floor (Tomb of the Awakened) and check a pack of shamblers dragging themselves in my direction. I start to wipe them out with my pet in the middle of the fray, keeping my distance, another pack appears from the south and almost at the same time a third one from the north side; my character changes from her smoothbore to dual pistols of poison and flame and burns them all down; it was epically brilliant.
Nothing to complain about the game so far, runs smoothly on my old rig; I just wish there were more classes instead of subclasses or at least more differentiation between subclasses. That and a male Vanquisher, perhaps with the steampunk-ish model of the Alchemist.
I reckon it will be possible to model swap or something like that when the TorchED is released, right? RIGHT? *begs*
Due to the lack of multiplayer, I am playing this on Very Hard Hardcore. In this way, it has became more like a roguelike rather than hack-n-slash lootwhoring. Loving it so far.
A question about the weapons, are the modifiers (+fire damage, +attack speed, etc) included in the DPS?
Fairly sure they are - I've noted the DPS change when enchanting stuff that adds +poison damage, for example.
Good call on VH Hardcore. That's my next step. I'm just happy it works like butter on my work PC... :)
Are you on a Steam build Greg?So this is interesting...
I just started a new character on Hard, got about five minutes in and suddenly found myself stuck in the world geometry, unable to escape. There are no enemies around to kill me and when I exit and restart the game, it loads me up stuck in the same place.
Easy enough to re-roll another character since I just started, but this makes me a little nervous. What do I do if it happens again much later in the game? :-/
EDIT #2: Crap. The solution below doesn't work for me. The console won't open in this build. Time to start a new character. Hoping Runic gets this fixed ASAP.
If you end up editing the settings.txt file while the game is open ( in windowed mode or minimized ), the game will resave when it shuts down, possibly wiping out your changes.
Also, the console is ONLY openable when you are actively ingame, so it won't pop up at the main menu.
You can shoot me a mail at [email protected] and I'll get you sorted-
Sorry for the trouble!
I gave my dog, BusterB, a healing spell and put him on aggressive. It's worked well so far.