Wow, that's a nexus of crazy right there.
Oh lord. This is going to end up in a proxy war.
Good thing he's in his final t... doh.
Meh, Ahmadinejad is a right-wing nutjob who will be out of office this year. In terms of nuance, politics, and popularity he's the Bush of the Middle East, and he only got elected because The Powers That Be in Iran felt that Khatami's moderate policies showed weakness and led to two adjacent countries being invaded by America. That's not why we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, but nobody seriously doubts that we would have invaded Iran if Iraq had gone better (with maybe a quick blitzrieg into Syria as a palette cleanser).
Chavez on the other hand is a more permanent problem, although that doesn't mean we need to invoke American interventionist policy in Venezuela. I'm not one of those OMG LIBERAL WESTERN DEMOCRACY IS ALWAYS THE BEST GOVERNMENT FOR EVERYONE!! idealogues, but increasingly it looks like he's not going to step down. Ever. That's bad for Venezuela. The job of US foreign policy should be to make sure that Chavez's reign doesn't become bad for South America, and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.
You are talking like Chavez will become the next Hitler or something. The US foreign policy should be to stay the fuck out of South America, where such policy has caused more problems that solutions in the past.The job of US foreign policy should be to make sure that Chavez's reign doesn't become bad for South America, and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.
Last edited by Cubit; 04-05-2009 at 05:44 AM.
More than likely, it will just be a softer (for a while) form of exactly what you describe, which is the kind of poisonous self interested approach that got us Chavezes in the first place. If Chavez were an idiot running his country into the ground and cooperating with US interests no one would see a problem with his reign. I know you don't advocate direct intervention, but the many levels on the spectrum of intervention that the US has tried in the past are often just as problematic. In the absence of a coherent plan to address (and make up for) the US role in South America historically, doing nothing would be preferable to taking a strong stance.
Originally Posted by Cubit