Reply With QuoteIf anyone I've dated came across this thread, it would be no big whoop.
Except nipple guy. You were a lousy kisser, too! Jerk.
Well, I haven't kept track of the whole thread, but what I've seen is pretty tame. It's not like Guapo is revealing a woman's discreet beauty marks. *shrugs*
Then again, I don't know if it's in this thread or not, Kraaze comes off pretty manipulative and vindicative when it comes to women. Heh.
If anyone I've dated came across this thread, it would be no big whoop.
Except nipple guy. You were a lousy kisser, too! Jerk.
I can second this - I met my girlfriend of 5.5 years (and counting) while I had long hair, but she was one of few that actually gave me much attention outside of the metal/rock scene. When I cut my hair short due to a lack of folical reinforcement (damn you genes!), I noticed many more glances or smiles from random women. Couldn't act on them obviously, but it certainly cemented the idea that getting it cut short was a good move.Originally Posted by Mordrak
My girlfriend didn't like it initially as she loved my long hair, but now she's quite keen on it. Short hair is just better, it seems, for attracting the womens.
If I do have my girl glasses on and you're looking to attract girls, perhaps you ought to take the fact I find this thread creepy under advisement.
Talking in person to friends and posting it to strangers is, to me, two different things. Don't get me wrong, if this thread was limited to like, advice asking and giving rather than bragging, I wouldn't really have a problem with it. But a lot of the posts come across as a dick measuring contest. Pro tip: for lots of girls, that's a turn off.
Like I said, it's just my opinion, but this thread comes across as creepy to me. Maybe I'm getting the wrong read off things, since ElGuapo says he isn't dating more than one at once, but his posts really come across as if he's lining these girls up night by night by night. Someone posting and saying that he's been advised to 'hit it and quit it' regardless of whether anyone here says to go for it (so long as it's mutual?)is skeevy to me.
There's a lack of women posting to this thread, I've noticed. And as I've mentioned, if nothing else it's just shown me the online dating crew as represented here? Is not my thing. So you guys have been helpful!
I think that this thread is a little more nuanced than how you're reading it mmalloy, especially since the lion's share of the experiences shared are Creole Ned's. What you have here, in my mind, is guys talking about relationships.
Yeah, this is how we do that. This is how we see relationships, more or less, and the advice you see people documenting here as coming from RL friends really is the advice men would give other men on the matter. I don't think there's much bragging going on, to be honest. There is some, for sure, but I don't think that a female-driven thread on the subject would be any less innocent. It'd probably be disturbing for guys to read, I'm sure, but rather than this being an illustration about our creepyness, it's a demonstration of the differences of our genders.
This. Plus it really helps if you're into things that promote regular social gatherings. I got into online dating because a) although my pool of friends is fairly close, it's also small, and b) there's only one large social gathering I go to or have any interest in going to on a regular basis. And although I have met one or two girls there, it's not exactly rich in dating opportunities.
There are also a couple of annual events I attend but I've never had the courage to even approach someone I've just met like that.
mmalloy, it's all cover. It's all bravado and facade. If I told you how I really felt about my dating experiences you'd be all moved and tearful and shit, and we can't have that. To the Maxim-mobile!
Ok, it's a little real. Sometimes guys do like to just have sex and move on. As do girls I suppose. It's like that scene in When Harry Met Sally when Billy Crystal is telling Meg Ryan about the terrible date he went on and how they weren't right for each other at all and how irritating his date was. Then Meg Ryan says something about sex and he responds "Oh, I slept with her". She is incredulous and critical, but he explains he can separate looking for a committed, loving relationship but at the same time have some sex along the way while he's looking. At least that's how I took the scene.
Yet you entirely missed the woman's point of view where that sort of behaviour isn't nearly as common for women as it is for men. Just because you don't see a woman again after such a night doesn't mean it was her intention to have a purely sexual encounter.
I'd also like to say that I'm sure there are lots of people on here who've had one night stands or short lived sexual relationships and simply don't post about it. Everybody has stories they don't tell for whatever reason. Just because Guapo has no problem kissing and telling doesn't mean everyone else are hermits because they don't do the same.
And a great deal of what girls do amongst themselves is a turn-off for guys. So I'm entirely unclear on what your point is.
I thought all guys loved when we had pillow fights and practice makeout sessions.
We do, it just never happens. You're all a bunch of liars!
Only on Spike TV produced shows.
mmalloy is basically right, but ElGuapo's an exception... if
weren't true, he wouldn't be nearly as successful as he is, and he probably wouldn't have been doggin' mysteryIf I told you how I really felt about my dating experiences you'd be all moved and tearful and shit
True dat. All the slumber parties I ever went to in high school skipped right over the pillow fights and makeout practice and instead involved makeovers - of me. I stopped going.
Yeah honestly mmalloy I think you are reading way more into these posts than you ought to be.
Seriously. I've heard how women talk about men, which is why I find mmalloy's outrage ridiculously hypocritical. Especially since, compared to true locker-room boasting, this thread is pretty tame. It's not quite as pathetic as the supertaster thread, but I see a hell of a lot more guys posting how clueless they are about dating than what mmalloy is reading into it. But maybe she just sucks at detecting sarcasm.
This thread is tame compared to what goes on in a women-only forum that I read. There've been posts there about dating and conquests that've made me blush and I'm not exactly a prude.
There have been a couple of posts here that have resulted in eye rolls or maybe the slightest bit of creep vibe but overall, it seems like fairly tame dating talk.
This is the correct response when geeks talk about putting the moves on a woman.
I don't need to be outraged to call you creepy, I just need to be creeped out. Eye rolling has most certainly happened. I guess I was just surprised that in a thread that wasn't a 'for guys eyes only' you were sharing stories that would not endear you to me or any of the girls I know.
But, to repeat again, perhaps the online dating crowd is just a different scene. If you wanted a woman's opinion--which you apparently don't--that was it! I'd be far more inclined to think you guys were dateable if you weren't doing the bravdo thing. And how is anyone supposed to give you good advice if it's all a facade?
Perhaps I have missed the point.
No, I think you basically got it.
The thing that's most hilarious to me is that I've been mocked for some of the advice I've given by roughly the same people who are out there wondering why they're not finding what they're looking for.
Can you please cite some examples? You keep talking about "conquests" and "dick measuring" and "bravado" and I have no idea wtf you're referring to.
That's because we're talking about dating, not human trafficking.
When I've gotten to know girls well enough they let me into their candid relationship discussions, it's always been considerably worse than anything here. This is completely tame, and nothing like the classic "locker room" bragging scene. Sure, it's not exactly Don Juan suave, but what do you expect? Meeting people is tough.
I've seen much more self deprecation than braggadocio. You seem to be pegging El Guapo in particular as bragging about his "conquests", but I think you're misreading him -- He's not bragging about them, so much as lamenting his lack of success in finding what he seeks.
Also, consider that since you're not into such a dating scene, your tastes and motives may not match the women who are into it...
If there is one thing to take away, One woman's opinion != the opinion of all women. Same goes for men. I get the impression that MMalloy did not grow up with brothers.
Two of them. One older, one younger.
Ok, time to fess up. Who's triggering your creepy alarm?
Just so.
Eh....it's the sort of conversation that I wouldn't personally conduct in mixed company that I was trying to slip the wiggle pickle, but I'm not a large, dangerous man that wants to kill us. The idea that any woman who's going to go from first meeting to a sensuous display of erotic spanking in less than an hour is expecting a lifelong commitment and any man who would avail himself of the situation is obviously a cad and a bounder and not to be trusted presupposes, so far as I can tell, either severe mental illness on the part of the woman or the judicious and unsavory application of various controlled substances, neither of which seems to be the case here. Let me put it this way - I am famous in my own mind for only understanding other human beings as they have been portrayed on popular television shows, and that's something that I might have thought before I learned that I am a congenital stupid.
That said, my contribution to the thread has been ENTIRELY concerned with my personal social inhibitions (I. Don't. Talk. To. Strangers. - at one point in my childhood, I had a bad habit of doing that, and my parents and peers did their best to disabuse me of the assumption that anybody, anywhere wanted to know me, ever, for any reason) and not with the literally thousands of girlfriends I have totally done sex on, so I guess the moral of the story is....I'm doin it rite, akshually?
Adding this to my vernacular in t-minus 5 seconds...
"That's exactly what my boyfriend was saying the other day."
NSFW (language). Also NSFMoP (kicking).
-xtien
"Whiskey!"
I'm really hoping that [done the sex] was a joke about Foxstab....
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