Reply With QuoteI heard that he was making an announcement on Lay Leno's show tonight, not that he's already announced a decision. You do get that show up in kanuckland don't you?
I was watching the West Wing, and this "Special Announcement" marquee came on underneath the show. You'd think there was a snowstorm warning or something.
I know nothing about American politics, but I'm interested in what this means.
Does he have a chance (I would think he'd win)?
Can he be a future US President (Demolition Man comes to mind)?
I heard that he was making an announcement on Lay Leno's show tonight, not that he's already announced a decision. You do get that show up in kanuckland don't you?
Beware the Governator.
He can't be President. He's Austrian. Like Hitler!!!!!!
Unfortunately, no. I guess we Canadians can't complain; we are getting cable with polar bear bone TV antennae after all.Originally Posted by bmulligan
I don't know... I was watching NBC, and it said "Arnold Swarzeneggerenneggerzaerager running for governor"...
later, they showed a commercial for Jay Leno and Arnold was running out waving a US Flag. Hrmm.. I guess i should have said SPOILERS FOR TONIGHTS JAY LENO.
He's making the announcement, but since they tape that show earlier in the day, it leaked that he's surprised everyone and announced he IS running.
That should make things interesting...
Wha? West Wing is back. Is it a new season or reruns? I wouldn't mind seeing the reruns because I didn't start watching it until just last year or so. I am so out of the loop.
I think it's a super rerun. I don't normally watch TV, but if I see a show like the West Wing, I stick around for a bit.
Where the hell do you live where you don't get the Tonight Show? Basic cable anywhere that I know of will get you at least one channel that shows it.
Davis is going to get Terminated.
Or rather, whoever's stupid enough to go up against Arnold will be. He's gonna rock the vote so hard, it won't know what hit it.
Maybe he can do something about Cali's awful firearm laws while he's fixing everything that's become fucked up about that state in the last several decades.
Alright, Sheep. Your post caused me to check my Tivo and I can in fact find reruns from all the way back in 99 on Bravo channel. Apparently Sunday is some sort of wacky marathon, with like 4 hours of back to back shows.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb here in saying that California is going to fall to the GOP side of things.
After Arnold declared, California Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamante declared he would run. Bustamante is a Democrat, and you can see that with Arnold in the race, the Dems know that Gray Davis is doomed and they're now abandoning him. But Arnold has a lot more name recognition than Bustamante, and his positions on the issues will appeal to a lot of people: he's pro-Gay rights, pro-choice on Abortion, and pro-gun control. So it's not like he's going to present himself as a far right winger... he's gonna present himself as a moderate Republican with boatloads of name recognition and movie-star charisma.
And with Diane Feinstein out, the Dems just don't have anybody who could compete.
That said: here's one candidate who might place second in name recognition...
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLIT...man/index.html
Plus Bustamante is a punk. I've learned that about him and Gray and I moved here (Sacramento) only two years ago.
Ha! Take that, Minnesota! :twisted:
Arnold's pro-gun control?????
Of course - he's always been in full control of his firearms :twisted:
So, the candidates are:
Arnold
Gary Colemen
Angelyne
Some stripper
Gray Davis
?
I'll buck the trend here and predict that Gray will survive the recall election. Gray is a solid campaigner, and the essential thrust of what will probably be his message - that a successful recall will mean another election every year, forever - is just getting started.
Besides, I've seen them there robot movies Arnold's in, and he always gets killed at the end.
Don't forget my man Larry Flynt. Legalized prostitution, baby! He's got my vote. Also, local morning-show DJ Kevin Ryder is running on the "Party Party" ticket, with one plank: legalize pot. I just don't know where to cast my Libertarian vote!!
I heard Gallagher (watermelon man) was thinking of running.
Believe me, I couldn't if I tried.
How can we be sure it isn't Gallagher II?
After hearing some of his announcement today, Davis is in serious fucking trouble. He could fend off Issa, but it sounds like Arnold's kind of got the non-partisan thing going on. Will Davis's slime machine be enough to fend him off??!?!?!
Oh, and the wacked-out conservatives that nominated that nutbag Simon last time are *not* going to be happy with Arnold. Could be interesting.
His love of Milton Friedman is creepy, though.
Favorite bit so far:
!Last year’s re-release of the film that first made him a star in the United States, the acclaimed 1977 documentary “Pumping Iron,” also brought scrutiny when it was noted that Schwarzenegger, then preparing to defend one of his bodybuilding titles, was seen smoking marijuana in one scene.
When the film was re-released last November, Schwarzenegger said he supported leaving that scene in, telling The Associated Press that to have taken it out would have compromised the filmmaker’s vision.
“I did smoke a joint and I did inhale,” he told the AP. “The bottom line is that’s what it was in the ’70s, that’s what I did. I have never touched it since.”
Here's the wonderful, wonderful irony.
Issa just dropped out of the race. The big wuss was apparently fighting back tears during his announcement. Oh, so sorry your little ploy didn't work for ya, Darrell.
Favorite quote of the dropout speech?
Middle East Peace? What, by not starting a third war there? :-/
So he's not going to do his job until after the special election?
Haha, the Issa thing is hilarious. Crying that his little plot didn't work out.....
Davis is in huge trouble. His primary strategy to survive was to prevent other Democrats from running, thus fragmenting the Democratic vote. That appeared to work when DiFi said she wasn't running, but after Arnie jumped in, damn near every other major Democratic elected official in the state just jumped in.
I don't think Bustamante could win, but I do think he could fragment some Latino votes that would have gone to Davis.
The insurance commissioner is running too, and he's a Democrat and he will siphon off votes.
And Arnie is going to maneuver hard to appeal to moderate Democrats and Reagan Democrats.
Frankly, this is Arnies best shot at public office. Because if he had waited to the general election, he would have been destroyed in the primaries by the Right-Wing, Orange County Zealots who have made Gray Davis' job of getting re-elected easy because they nominate Right Wing Wackos that make Davis by far the lesser of two evils. Arnie *is* pro-gun control, pro-choice, and pro-gay rights.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/934778.asp
Frankly, Davis is so far gone it's not even funny. Can't say he doesn't deserves it, though. He is the king of campaign sleeze. The only reason he keeps getting elected is because he gets worst opponents than himself. And the galling thing is, after 2002, his supporters were quietly putting together a Gray Davis for President campaign. Bush and Rove would have crushed a Gray Davis candidacy like the US military pulverized the Iraqi military.
It's funny--or maybe not--but this really is a great scenario for someone like Schwartzenegger. Very short campaign, lots of candidates, you only need a plurality of votes to win. Someone with his name recognition and likeability could actually bring it home in a race like this. As icing on the cake, he gets to sit there and go "The system is broken. I'm going to clean house." and there's too much noise / not enough time for people to get around to pressing him on "What does that mean, exactly?"
EDIT: that article describes him as being "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal," which is the textbook description of a libertarian. Pro-gay-rights, pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-school, pro-immigrant, anti-tax. And not dependent on anyone else's money, and apparently willing to admit but brush off allegations of things like marijuana and steroid use. I'm scared to say it, but I think I'm actually going to look into this guy more carefully, if any more info is available. Jesus.
EDIT AGAIN: Never mind, voting for him would be completely loony. I like his beliefs, but he just doesn't have the experience to run something like California.
does anyone NOT root for the weirdos to win elections in states where they don't live?
this is the best thing since jesse ventura won in MN!
:lol:
I'd take anyone over ours, Stroker. Bob Riley is a Republican and a tax-happy moron. The worst of both worlds! Actual quote:
"It is our Christian duty to vote for this tax bill Sept. 9th."
With all due respect for the lord, "Fuck your proposal, Gov. Riley".
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