Here's a link to the article on MSNBC: http://theclicker.today.msnbc.msn.co...n-a-stake?lite
Some people are too sensitive, although I imagine if it was Obama's head on the stake and Game of Thrones was instead about how great power and greed is there'd be sensitive people on the other side.
I frankly think that most Republicans don't care, because the DVDs have been out for three months, and I gotta imagine that plenty of Republicans learned that months ago, and we got absoltuely 'nadda until we get a slow news day.Originally Posted by Timsfker
It's just as silly as it gets. And they could put Obama's head up there and he'd probably love it, the uber nerd that he is. First president to have a Spider Man collection and all.
Republican here. I listened to all of the commentary on the DVDs, sometime this year, before Season 2 began. When I heard that, I was not at all surprised because it just seemed like liberal Hollywood taking a shot. I was not offended in the least though and the fact that they are having to apologize is stupid.
Have to say though, no way in hell would they ever stick Obama's head up there but if they had the uproar would be 10 fold.
Well, there are two things to say here about "what if they'd put Obama's head up there, the uproar would be much greater."
First, have we seen any black men at all in Westeros? This would make including an Obama head likeness on the spike a much more obviously deliberate act.
Second, given the historical context of the treatment of black people in the US by the white majority until very recently (less than 50 years ago there was legal segregation and the odd lynching in the old South, and "redlining" pretty much all over the country), a greater uproar would be understandable.
For all those reasons and more, a more reasonable choice for liberal/conservative juxtaposition would be Bill Clinton.
Obama's head would be odd and out of place. GW, well most people didn't even notice until it was pointed out, even then, some blog shill wanted a few minutes of fame... and got it.
At the risk of making this even more "P&R" why did you assume that the explanation given in the commentary was a lie?
Didn't think it was a lie. Just didn't think they would have done it if it had been an Obama (or Clinton) mask.
A wild Republican appears!
Oh man, I totally caught the GWB head before, but just assumed I was seeing things. That's hilarious.
I don't suppose Jaqen comes back, does he? He was cool. I hope zombies don't get too much play, though; I have enough of them in my media.
Because it was a lie, you don't use a former, hated by most in entertainment, presidents head like that and not have politics enter into the decision. They meant it as their own little political statement.
Wow. Talk about seeing everyting through a polarized lens...
Seems to me that a "head" that isn't even recognizable on screen and would have passed without comment if it had not been flagged in the commentary speaks most to the issue.
Moreover, the PR from this is simply likely to drive people to buy up the rest of the First Season Boxed set before any reprint. There are, in reality, very few instances of real publicity that is actually "bad" publicity.
Everyone DOES realize that it was the bad guys who put the good guys heads on spikes here, right? Right?
Don't you talk about my beloved Joffrey that way! :P
Just putting my 2-cents behind this... The REASON the heads are there is that they were found to be apposed to EVIL people.... how is this in any way construed as a negative against the heads?
If ANY "interpretation" can be made of this one instance of the use of an available prop for a fictional TV-series-episode, It's a COMPLIMENT!
"Wow, just wow" doesn't even come close..."looking for a fight" is my only explanation.
Last edited by nogwart; 06-16-2012 at 05:16 PM.
It's highly unlikely that the person/people responsible thought it through; it was probably just a prop guy's stoned "hurr durr let's stick this prop GWB head on one of those spikes" type of thing. It clearly wasn't thought through in the realization that lots of conservatives probably love the show too. Or (more likely) they probably just thought that conservatives are so dumb and unobservant that they wouldn't notice.
(Hasn't Martin had some trouble himself with conservative fans - i.e. in that he has them but doesn't want them? I seem to vaguely recall some foofaraw about that.)
this one I had noticed and is not a compliment in any way ;)
I've followed his website over the last decade and don't recall him saying that. But he did post "winter has come to America" after the 2004 elections, which caused Republican-leaning fans to hurl shit his way. To which his reply was basically, "I'm allowed opinions, it's my site, fuck off," though probably worded a bit more poitely.
They didn't notice. It only came out through the DVD commentary.
Game of Thrones and P&R! So on topic!
The King of the North goes gay!
Spoiler: Contains Gif, spoiler tagged due to suggestive language
From the show Sirens, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5JSR3Fque0 (link also NSFW, nothing explicit but probably not something you want a coworker walking in on)
Heh I love when famous people use that as a defense, but ignoring the fact that the people who are yelling at them also are allowed to have opinions.
The "It's my site" part is the important line of that quote. Anyone is allowed to have an opinion, but there is no Constitutional language that guarantees someone else has to finance your soapbox.
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Hollard
That (at first appearance) red, white and blue picture, is pretty close to the official description of red, pink and black.They blazon their arms with barry red and pink, three golden crowns on a black chief
Speaking of Game of Thrones getting political... Attack Ads from Westeros.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...nes-attack-ads
Well Obama wouldn't make a whole lot of sense unless they've been hiding a lot of black dudes in King's Landing that I'm not aware of.
Shit ton of casting announcements at ComicCon just now.
Diana Rigg is the Queen of Thorns(!!!!!!!)
Jojen is the kid from Love Actually (well, he's grown quite a bit since then)
Meera is Ellie Kendrick, who played Anne Frank in the recent BBC miniseries.
And we have Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, the Blackfish, Edmure Tully and more!
Shit, HBO is fast
http://youtu.be/rpSDSgChsaI
I was looking up some of the characters shown in that You-tube clip when I came across this.
Martin lost the 2001 Hugo Award for Best Novel to J. K. Rowling.[2][3] Afterwards he made this comment about his fans: "Eat your heart out, Rowling. Maybe you have billions of dollars and my Hugo, but you don't have readers like these."[6]
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