Reply With QuoteLawd have mercy! Shaggydog is going to be terrifying.Originally Posted by Woolen Horde
[QUOTE=jg93;3091617]I haven't read Clash of Kings in years - but I don't remember Janos Slynt killing all of Stark's bastards - was that actually in the book?
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Lawd have mercy! Shaggydog is going to be terrifying.
I took the map on HBO and assembled it: http://loopingworld.com/misc/westeros.jpg
BEWARE. It's a 7Mb jpg 5700x3700
Very cool, thanks!
Ratings are in.
Season premiere set the mark for highest ratings for the series yet, just shy of 4 million, which also beat Mad Men Sunday night by a million. Very impressive, especially when you consider AMC is a basic cable channel with a far larger footprint than HBO, which is premium cable. GOT was also the top show on cable that night by a large margin.
The Season 2 premiere is also 74-percent higher than the season 1 premiere.
On SkyAtlantic, it got 500,000+ in the UK, which blows away what Mad Men got in its season premiere (<100,000).
Growing ratings, incredible social buzz, rave reviews, pop-culture phenom (when The Simpsons parodies you, you know you've made it), and a ton of Emmy love.
HBO isn't canceling this any time soon. Especially now that it's scrambling to fill the gigantic hole in its schedule created by some incredibly bad Luck.
Wow, that's really impressive. I questioned their decision to wait to release the BluRay/DVD versions of Season 1 until Spring (as opposed to Xmas), but maybe the rash of GoT-viewing parties the last few weeks caused a huge upswing in subscribers/viewers.
I actually wonder if those parties hurt the ratings. At the viewing party I was at, there were a good 12-13 adults there. Even factoring in the couples, you'd figure HBO lost about 4 or 5 TVs right there for the 9pm numbers.
The 3.9 million number is just for the 9pm showing, btw. I've heard if you add in the repeat viewing numbers it goes higher. (The Hollywood Reporter says that the total for all three broadcasts was 6.3 million.) And it goes even higher once you add on demand, DVR, and HBO Go.
I'm sure there'll be an HBO press release soon that trumpets all of this, along with the Season 3 greenlight.
The parties would matter if that was how they did their ratings. But Nielson doesn't use actual numbers. It uses a sample size of homes with their equipment and extrapolates to the population of TV owners. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielson_Ratings
To get the just under 4 million viewers number, it means that around 3 and 1/3 percent of Nielson equipped homes were watching Game of Thrones. They estimate there are 115.9 million TV equipped homes, so 3 and 1/3 percent of 115.9 is just under 4 million.
Havent HBO said repeatedly they aren't going to scrap this before the end? Of course, I can imagine if it was a financial disaster they'd go against that anyways.
No, it's in English.
I'm satisfied with waiting two weeks for Episode 3.
I have to say that I have watched the first season 2 times, and I feel the urge to watch it again another time. And I am not a fan of the books ( I stooped reading on some random book, I forgot what one ).
Having watched the first episode of seasion 2 make me happy. But I hate to wait a whole week for another episode. I normally download from the internet complete seasions of tv series to watch all episodes one after another.
I've never once seen this and I follow GoT news pretty closely. It really doesn't make sense for them to do so, or if it was the plan, to announce it.
And this show is far from a financial disaster for them. Huge ratings, huge over-seas sales, and the best selling discs they've ever made.
The viewers are Dutch.
There are no borders.
That's not true, when I watch on my iPad, there's borders all around the image!
What end? The book series isn't complete, and given the pace of the author, it may be forever open ended. At least GRRM's supposedly filled in HBO execs w the basics of how the story wraps up, so if he keels over, they can finish the series. I've only read the first book, but I find the HBO series to have improved upon its source material. HBO writers completing the series would probably turn out pretty well.
So does that mean if book 6 isn't out before the sixth season on HBO the HOB writers will just finish it on their own. :)
The end of the series? What I meant should be clear enough. The show will not be canceled before the end of the series.
They've never said anything of the sort.
Well, apparently they did
"We told George [R.R. Martin] we'd go as long as he kept writing," HBO co-president Richard Pleper said at a TCA panel yesterday. "I can promise you that we won't stop it before it's ready to stop," agreed Michael Lombardo, HBO's programming president.
Meh. More or less an empty bag of words. From HBO's point of view it may well be "ready to stop" when there are less than a million people tuning in each week. Still, it's nice to hear that they recognize the fact of an overall story in there."We told George [R.R. Martin] we'd go as long as he kept writing," HBO co-president Richard Pleper said at a TCA panel yesterday. "I can promise you that we won't stop it before it's ready to stop," agreed Michael Lombardo, HBO's programming president.
Now that's just crazy talk. :P
GRRM is heavily involved with the series, right? It wouldn't surprise me if he tightens up the story on level 2 a bit.
I liked the scene with Cersei and Littlefinger. It reminds us that he is kind of a social outcast (bought his way to real nobility) and he and her have quite different views of how the world works. And she humiliates him - and it is implied, I guess, not for the first time. All important stuff.
See, I didn't care for that scene at all. Littlefinger would never be so stupid as to throw the spreading rumor of her incest in her face like that.
I haven't read the books, but it certainly seems they're trying too hard with the Littlefinger character overall. He's clearly not as interesting as they want him to be. Well, not to me - anyway. Also, the blatant sex thing got old after the first episode. Maybe it's because I'm a dane (we don't have a problem with sex on TV) - but I find that the vast majority of sex is completely superfluous for the scenes in question.
There's sex in the books. Nothing as Cinemax cringe-worthy as the whore lesson in Season 1, but a lot more than the typical swords and sorcery novel.
IMHO, theres two themes in Game of Thrones (the novels), celebration of life and lords vs common people.
Is a world with terrible winters and wars, where millions die. People is terrified of the next winters, and live in very very very long summers, with plenty of wine. So people fuck like theres not tomorrow because, maybe is real, that theres not tomorrow. Winter is comming: Carpe diem.
The lords vs common people theme is growing. Littlefinger is a small Oliver Cromwell. He may aspire to something else, but perhaps not something better.
He's not heavily involved. He gets to write one episode per year, which was part of the contract when HBO bought the rights to the series. He's one of the very rare authors who gest to do that, but it's only because he spent 10 years as a producer/writer/executive producer in Hollywood. He also gets a co-executive producer credit, but those are largely ceremonial (his deceased agent also got one; he's the dude who sold the series to HBO, for example).
D&D respect the hell out of him, and ask him questions, but GRRM has stated that he doesn't get anything resembling override power. D&D are the showrunners. Hell, he even said that HBO wouldn't even send him screeners in advance for some episodes last year. And, besides, GRRM is far too busy with other things (like writing the rest of the books) to be heavily involved.
And, in other news, the show just won a motherfucking Peabody!!!!!!!!!
http://fantasticmaps.wordpress.com/2...-ice-and-fire/
Official world maps coming later this year! About time!
GRRM mentioned a map book at the Toronto International Film Festival.
Then there's the official cookbook coming out in May, written by the authors of the awesome Inn at the Crossroads blog. They're chefs who took it upon themselves to create recipes for all the meals described in the books, even the really unusual stuff, such as swan and jellied calves brains. Their recipes are awesome, and GRRM's editors signed them to a book deal.
Of course, the unofficial (ie, unlicensed) Ice and Fire cookbook just came out.
And then there's the big companion volume coming that's being written mainly by Elio and his wife. They're the two who run Westeros.org and are considered the keepers of the lore, even to GRRM. When George forgets something about the lore, he'll email Elio, who sends him the answer, including reference pages.
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