One thing that I love about this vs RB is the ability to jump straight from failing a song to practice mode...AND BACK. I hate the way every part of Rock Band is completely separate from every other part, and if you dare decide you want to practice you have to jump back through 15 menus. Super lame.
I also like the 4 second screen-freeze countdown when you resume from pause, so you can not miss about 30 notes the next time someone accidentally presses start. That was a very thoughtful inclusion.
Still, for every little "ooh, that's nice", there are about 3 different major design failures in the game. So it kinda doesn't add up.
So you're saying that, once I get this game, I can no longer use "But I was in the middle of a solo!" as an excuse for not answering the phone?
Okay, so, I just got this delivered today, and so far I'm rather nonplussed. Yes, it's Guitar Hero, but they seem to have sucked all of the fun out of it.
Sure, it's got plenty of tracks that I wish were in Rock Band (or so the box tells me), but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to access any of them. The instantaneous, jump-right-in, readiness-to-rock seems to have been replaced by an interminable series of perfunctory menu screens. Simple tasks like naming a band take a hundred times longer than in Rock Band, because GHWT doesn't seem to recognize USB keyboards as input devices. Every set seems to end with a lame encore I'd rather not play.
What once seemed like actual progression toward a goal is now a tiresome slog.
I think I'll just input the unlock all songs code and rock out on my own terms.
The song I'd been looking forward to for the whole game finally came up in the last set (Guitar Career):
Unfortunately, it's a shortened version of the song. The long guitar sequence at the end of the song, which is one of my favorite parts, has been cut off. The song ends really abruptly after the last chorus repeat. I'm so disappointed right now. :( It was still a fun song to play, but not being able to play my favorite part just sucks. Especially since Beat it and La Bamba were the two primary reasons I really wanted to play this game.
Ah well. At least Beat it was totally worth it. I just hope that Rock Band gets La Bamba one day, and they get the version that I always heard on the radio, not this clipped version.
I felt both La Bamba and Beat It were letdowns.
Beat It because I kinda forgot the song is essentially a dance song, and thus.. very.. repetitive. The EVH solo is far less interesting than I had remembered, too. Major disappointment IMO.
La Bamba, I dunno, just didn't click for me. I do like the song, but I think it was a bit far afield from rock for inclusion in a rock game.
There's a shocker. In any case, the real news is that someone explicitly bought the game for two songs that were not appropriate for a fake guitar game at all. How is that possible? Could it be there are different...tastes in this world? The mind reels.
After beating it on Hard guitar, bass, and getting halfway on drums and vocals, I have a list of songs that I don't enjoy playing. But neither Beat It or La Bamba are on it. For instance, fuck Bob Seger and Hollywood Nights. Also, it was interesting to me how some songs are better charted in GH (Eye of the Tiger springs to mind) and others better in RB2 (the 30 Seconds to Mars song, which I find surprisingly fun on guitar in RB2, is not good on GHWT). The latter is still the platform of choice by far.
From watching my wife play through on Expert guitar, I thought it was unusual that the Ted Nugent duel was a piece of cake for her, and Zakk Wylde a stumbling block (briefly), where it was the opposite for me on Hard. She came across them in a different order than I did as well thanks to the venue branching (I think that's why, I haven't double checked to see if they change location).
Well, like me, Rock8man bought GH:WT because he was excited about a few of the songs. (I was really looking forward to Beat It, for example.) Then after playing the song charts, came away deeply disappointed. Hey me too!
GH:WT has the worst tracklist experience of any fake plastic rock game to date, for a variety of reasons we've rehashed a dozen times now.
Just to clarify, I rented the game from Gamefly. But yes, I was really looking forward to some of the songs. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the songs in GHWT weren't very fun.
That's something that Harmonix does somehow, I'm not sure if it's better charting, or just better song selection, or better sound mixing, or better visuals, (most likely a combination of all of the above and something else too), but I really enjoyed the vast majority of RB2 tracks, even the songs I wasn't familiar with. In GHWT the only songs I really enjoyed were songs I'd already heard like Beat it, Hot For Teacher, Are you Gonna Go My Way, the Tool songs (I was surprised to learn that I'd heard all of them before), and a handful of others.
wumpus: worst tracklist experience of any fake plastic rock game to date? Are you including Rock Revolution and Guitar Praise? Plus I thought the whole GHWT experience was still a major step up from GH3, which I absolutely abhorred. At least GHWT was fun in short bursts for certain songs.
Well, I meant of games we would actually play. Has anyone here played Guitar Praise? Seriously?wumpus: worst tracklist experience of any fake plastic rock game to date? Are you including Rock Revolution and Guitar Praise?
There are maybe a dozen songs fun enough to overcome the heavy GH:WT fun tax, it's true. This is why GH:WT is still worth renting or buying cheaply.At least GHWT was fun in short bursts for certain songs.
The army of perfectly-synchronized clones standing at the edge of the stage is starting to creep me out...
I haven't seen a crowd this homogenous since NHL 2000.
I will give them credit for something, though: Not penalizing me for using the unlock cheat.
The game just became 100 times more fun now that I can queue up some Hendrix followed by some Ozzy.
That doesn't sound unreasonable.
I don't care if I "cheat" at GHWT. Not at all. I bought this game because there were several songs that I've been longing for in plastic-guitar form, and if it's a choice between inputting a simple code and slogging through a bunch of tracks I have no interest in, I'm choosing the former.
If they'd just release "Mr. Crowley" and "Hotel California" (among others) for RB2, I'd be happy. In the meantime, I'll try and get along with GHWT.
They've announced a months worth of DLC, prepare to titter:
January 8 - Country Rock Track Pack
- Hinder - "Use Me" (single)
- Nickelback - "Because of You" (single)
- Rev Theory's "Light It Up" (single)
January 15 - Travis Barker Track Pack
- Rascal Flats - "Me and My Gang"
- Brad Paisley - "Ticks"
- Brooks & Dunn - "Hillbilly Deluxe"
January 22 - Australian Band Track Pack
- Blink 182 - "What's My Age Again"
- Plus44 - "Lycanthrope"
- Flo-Rida w/Travis Barker - "Low (Travis Barker remix)"
January 29 - Full Oasis album, Dig Our Your Soul
- Silverchair - "Tomorrow"
- Wolfmother - "Dimension"
- The Vines - "Outtathaway!"
Hinder AND Nickelback? It's like a dream!
They should just release a blink182 album already. I don't care at all about any of the side projects, but playing through all of Take Off Your Pants and Jacket would be awesome.
The Australian one should be good too.
Never heard any of that shit.
Jan 22nd looks nice. Othewise I'm not that excited.
I had a nice, snarky post all typed here, and then read your OP where you said you've never heard any of it, as opposed to heard of. Reading is leading!
Dave Long just broke when forced to reconcile is Nickleback love with his Guitar Hero hate.
I've heard some of them, but I wouldn't buy any. I actively despise Nickelback, Blink 182 and Wolfmother. Which is just as well, since I'm unlikely to buy GH:WT for a while and really unlikely to buy DLC for it ever.
If they were on Rock Band, the only one I'd buy is Wolfmother.
If they were on Rock Band, I'd look into the Oasis Album. The only Oasis Album I own is "(What's the Story) Morning Glory", which I used to listen to a lot. But I didn't really keep up with Oasis after that.
But on GHWT? No thanks. Chances are any DLC I buy for the game won't be compatible in future GH games anyway, even if in the future there is a GH game I actually like.