You can grab it here
Quite interesting read, that.
You can grab it here
Quite interesting read, that.
Interesting report... but they state that Doom III will be released this december... I thought it was next december.
There's quite a few discrepancies in their report which I think says a lot about financial outlooks for the games industry. Unless you're a major part of what's going on within the industry, you just don't "get it".
That said, the online forecast is right on. The console sales forecast is probably spot on and most of the games they mention are likely to do well. But like most of these predictive statements, I think there's a number of games they simply overlooked. Where's Starfox Adventures for example? They even show Star Fox 64 among the top selling shooters of all time. How could they miss this offshoot of the series entirely?
The most interesting thing is the total sales of certain games. Five Million Goldeneye for N64! Wow... and folks around here wonder why I keep saying Nintendo doesn't need the third parties. When you finish second with a console and can still rack up more sales than just about any game on a competing system EVER has done, it's pretty plain to see how little Nintendo needs to worry about 3rd party support.
--Dave
"Where's Starfox Adventures for example? They even show Star Fox 64 among the top selling shooters of all time. How could they miss this offshoot of the series entirely?"
Maybe it's because Nintendo has become the invisible game company. The lack of GC titles is getting a bit ridiculous. "Coming soon" has become "I'll believe it when I see it" at this point.
Hmm. I wonder how much those consultants got to write that report?
The report was obviously written sometime in June. . . some of the release list is already publicly wrong. To say the least of the number that will be wrong by December.
*sigh* I guess you haven't been paying attention. Beach Spikers was in stores yesterday. Cube exclusive. Eternal Darkness is only a month old. Resident Evil is now two months old. How many games do you suppose the other guys have been shipping this summer?Originally Posted by Mark Asher
Let's see...Sony's big games were Stuntman, Mark of Kri (which isn't that big) and Medal of Honor: Frontline. All the systems are getting football right now. I think you're just not paying attention. Maybe you forgot that Mario ships in two weeks? Does the Xbox or PS2 have anything that big until September? The answer is no. It's summertime. Games don't sell all that well and it makes a lot more sense to wait until closer to Fall to start ramping up.
I suppose if you owned an Xbox you could be so glad stuff like Bruce Lee finally hit the shelves. A game like that in your collection must be super satisfying.
Did you even read the report? Nintendo's games were featured quite prominently. The most glaring omission given the info on Metroid, Animal Crossing and Mario was Star Fox.
--Dave
PS2?
August: Madden 2003, Street Hoops, The Thing, SOCOM: US Navy Seals, Onimusha 2, NFL Gameday 2003, among others.
September: Turok: Evolution, Blade II, Robocop, Armored Core 3, Mobile Suit Gundam, Wild Arms 3, Dynasty Tactics, Kingdom Hearts, Terminator: Dawn of Fate, Summoner 2, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2, Tekken 4, Robotech: Battlecry, NHL 2003, Nascar Thunder 2003, among others.
Like I said, that's just some of the games.
Wow, that list even makes me want to get a PS2 and I can't see a game review for that system that doesn't make me think, "yeah, but everything's so UGLY!"
It is listed among the first-party releases on page 23, but they didn't include it in the "Important Upcoming Releases and Events" on page 2. I assume that they do not share your enthusiam for it. Personally, Star Fox didn't do much for me, but apparently 1.9 million others disagreed.Originally Posted by Dave Long
Wow! A conversation on the internet where people start getting defensive about their favorite console. Don't see those often.
Just kidding. About the often part. :lol:
Honestly, unless you are really into the sites and the mags, the only thing that's peeping its head over the waters of anonymity is Mario Sunshine. And, though I'm sure it has enough gameplay for adults, the title makes it sound like it's aimed at 4 year old girls.
Another problem, for me at least, is this new "Coming Soon" section at my local EB. They have this entire column of empty boxes of games that are all coming out up to a year away. Makes knowing what is immediately coming out almost impossible, once you get over the "Wow! A Knights of the Old Republic Box! It must be coming out real soon if there's a box here!" syndrome.
When is Knights of the Old Republic coming out? I can't seem to find anything out about it. BTW, that is an interesting read, how did you come across it?
KOTOR has just been announced as delayed, spring 2003 for xbox, summer 2003 for PC.
Knights of the Old Republic would have been a big title for MS over Christmas. Sucks to be them.
That analysis from BoA was pretty plain and uninformative. It sounded like the guy just read IGN and Gamespot and cut and paste some analysis. Andy Eddy does better stuff on Gamespy.
Why isn't there any mention of console-to-title ration? It's the one publishers are most interested in. Why is there no discussion of the amount of debt publisher have? Why isn't there a discussion of time-to-market on dev cycles? P/E ratio? What about some speculation what affect the console price cuts will have on the major publishers? Who holds the major brands right now? If you were going to do some due diligence on companies, this report wouldn't be much help.
They're right about Nintendo, though. It's got the best stuff coming. But do you really need a securities consultant to tell you that?
Did I mention I'm a grumpy old man?
These things are aimed at investors. How detailed are they, normally? I really don't know, but I suspect investors want easily digestible information.
CorrectOriginally Posted by Mark Asher
Really? It would seem to me the most investors what thorough, accurate information, not bite-sized niblets of information that really don't have much insight about the present or the future of the games industry. If I am going to invest serious money in a games publisher, this report is of little value, other than telling me that Nintendo is on an upswing. But I can't invest in Nintendo, so no help there.Originally Posted by Derek Smart [3000AD
Thanks to ADRs, you can. Nintendo's U.S. securities symbol is NTDOY.Originally Posted by Jim Preston
"American Depository Receipts (ADRs). ADRs were first created by U.S. banks in 1927 in order to make it easier for investors to buy stocks from abroad. ADRs are created when a U.S. bank purchases a large number of shares in a stock and then bundles them together and reissues them on one of the major American stock exchanges. "