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    A few things for those of you wanting to squeeze some frames out of POOPed Oblivion:

    If you're running on-board sound, we can get you some FPS back with a really easy fix. It seems as if Oblivion's sound models reproduce ever footfall sound in the game as a single sound, rather than a single stitched together sound when something on four legs runs. So, when a horse gallops, instead of getting a repeating "gallop" sound over and over you instead get four individual hoof sounds played in the correct succession. Yikes! That puts an incredible strain on an on-board sound processor and it will thus "offload" that processing to the CPU. You don't want your CPU giving you accurate gallop noises, you want it for framerate.

    [http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15942]Quiet Feet MAX[/url] should fix that, and for onboard sound users, it'll get you back a few frames per second.

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    Just so you guys know the quiet feet link is a link to something else, just letting you know trigger. Here's where you can get it.

    http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15942 OMOD version

    http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12331 non OMOD version

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    Speaking of FPS, one thing that I discovered with POOP 1.0 is that some of the graphics mods significantly up the game's memory requirements. Core Oblivion can run well with 1GB of RAM; POOPed Oblivion wants at least 2GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien Neil View Post
    Speaking of FPS, one thing that I discovered with POOP 1.0 is that some of the graphics mods significantly up the game's memory requirements. Core Oblivion can run well with 1GB of RAM; POOPed Oblivion wants at least 2GB.
    Well yeah.

    And a 3d card. And Windows versions above Win95.

    Kidding aside, with RAM as cheap as it is, I cannot imagine someone with any sort of even modest gaming rig running 1gb.

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    I played through Oblivion on the 360 about a year ago but never ventured into the DLC. I grabbed the GotY edition last week out of boredom and caught sight of this whole POOP thing, which is awesome. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out the DLC. If I want the extra DLC to work with POOP should I buy it previous to installing POOP, or can I get it after I POOP without fear of breaking the modded install?

    Edit: Also, is it even worth the trouble? While Horse Armor is clearly a valuable commodity, is any of this other stuff worth my pocket change?

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    at the very least get mehrunes razor, good dungeon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrrris View Post
    I played through Oblivion on the 360 about a year ago but never ventured into the DLC. I grabbed the GotY edition last week out of boredom and caught sight of this whole POOP thing, which is awesome. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out the DLC. If I want the extra DLC to work with POOP should I buy it previous to installing POOP, or can I get it after I POOP without fear of breaking the modded install?

    Edit: Also, is it even worth the trouble? While Horse Armor is clearly a valuable commodity, is any of this other stuff worth my pocket change?
    Install the DLC first.

    Is it worth it? KoTN is, I think. The rest is a bad joke.

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    Mehrune's Razor is a fun dungeon crawl.

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    Well, after pooping myself silly all weekend, I finally finished it all off, and then sat down to play properly aaaaaaaand..........it's a slide show almost anywhere outdoors. Sigh.

    I think I'm gonna have to set up that slipstream thing. Failing that, try a POOP rebuild without the VWD stuff. Luckily, I was foresighted enough to take a copy of the Oblivion install folder after installing the game, expansions, DLC and official and unofficial patches - a vanilla install.

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    Yeah, try variations on the lighting and that other thing. A world of difference in framerate, without a huge loss in quality. I thought the sunrise was pretty enough already, at least.

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    Didn't you test it out as you went along, like the tutorial says? When did it start slowing down too much?

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    Yeah, I did, but my test char was positioned just outside the sewer grate opposite Vilverin (newbie dungeon). I would wander around that area for a bit checking responsiveness and the FPS readout. Maybe pop to Vilverin to fight the two dudes hanging round outside the ruins. I'm more concerned with the feel and usability than the actual FPS numbers, of course.

    The real framerate issues, I think were introduced as part of the LODgen process at the end of the POOP install procedure. Starting up the game after this step and the Wrye Bash step was when it really started to grind. The game is mostly quite responsive, but when you get to a graphically busy area - such as around the outside of the Imp City, there's a lot of hitching and pauses.

    I'm assuming (as per Trig's notes) that it was the LODgen utility creating the distance LOD graphics for all the additional content introduced to the gameworld with POOP. Things like the whacking great aqueduct now attached to the city, which are visible far off.

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    I thought triggercut's Streamline guide was excellent. I'd give that a shot... it'll definitely help.

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    I had problems after LODgen as well, which may have prompted some more comments about it in the instructions. Are you running AA? I thought my card would be able to handle AA at 1600x1200, no matter what was on screen, but I found that doing that and tweaking Streamline helped it a lot. It still chugs a bit when it has to load some things, but not as frequently and intrusively as before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrmorton View Post
    I thought triggercut's Streamline guide was excellent. I'd give that a shot... it'll definitely help.
    Yeah, I was just getting impatient to play after all the installation work - took one look at the Streamline instructions and decided to give it a miss. I'm going to try that tonight, and see if it sorts my shit out. If not, I'll wipe my current install and try a version of POOP without the VWD mods, as that's where the biggest framerate hits occur as far as I can tell.

    Do I need to rebuild the Wrye Bash .esp after installing Streamline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Jones View Post
    Yeah, I was just getting impatient to play after all the installation work - took one look at the Streamline instructions and decided to give it a miss. I'm going to try that tonight, and see if it sorts my shit out. If not, I'll wipe my current install and try a version of POOP without the VWD mods, as that's where the biggest framerate hits occur as far as I can tell.

    Do I need to rebuild the Wrye Bash .esp after installing Streamline?
    I don't know for sure that you do or don't....but I've gotten in the habit of just doing it anyway anytime I make a major change (and Streamline fits that bill, for sure) to my Oblivion mods/game.

    In other words: "It couldn't hoit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Jones View Post
    Yeah, I was just getting impatient to play after all the installation work - took one look at the Streamline instructions and decided to give it a miss. I'm going to try that tonight, and see if it sorts my shit out. If not, I'll wipe my current install and try a version of POOP without the VWD mods, as that's where the biggest framerate hits occur as far as I can tell.
    triggercut's instructions are super easy to follow. I took one look at the included documentation and skipped it after 2.5 hours of installation, but his stuff you should be able to run right through.

    Do you really need to start with a clean install if you want to remove the VWD stuff? Maybe just deactivate and run LODgen again, I don't know.

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    Seeded all weekend for a total of 11.9 GB uploaded. Makes me wish I had FIOS. I will happily continue seeding.

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    I just confirmed that nGCD causes magicka to not regenerate while using the wait command, t. I'm not sure I can recommend it with this bug and others that people have complained about. Not ready for primetime, but unfortunately it hasn't been updated since the end of 2007.

    I wonder how easy it would be for me to go in and fix a few things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim James View Post
    I just confirmed that nGCD causes magicka to not regenerate while using the wait command, t. I'm not sure I can recommend it with this bug and others that people have complained about. Not ready for primetime, but unfortunately it hasn't been updated since the end of 2007.

    I wonder how easy it would be for me to go in and fix a few things.
    I'd at least recommend that mages know about it and not use it or be careful with using the "wait" key.

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    Yeah. I'm going to cheat and just change the regen multipliers in the .ini so it's a little faster. I'm only doing a tour of the guild quests and to look at the pretty graphics on my new machine, not really looking for realistic challenge or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim James View Post
    Do you really need to start with a clean install if you want to remove the VWD stuff? Maybe just deactivate and run LODgen again, I don't know.
    Problem is, that several mods installed subsequently to your choice of VWD mod will ask you which (if any) VWD you've used and customise themselves based on that. I figure it would just be less complicated to do a fresh POOP build without any VWD than try and hack it all about, or assume that everything will sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Jones View Post
    Problem is, that several mods installed subsequently to your choice of VWD mod will ask you which (if any) VWD you've used and customise themselves based on that. I figure it would just be less complicated to do a fresh POOP build without any VWD than try and hack it all about, or assume that everything will sort itself out.
    Nah. Let the People Drink is the only one that should really cause you problems. Reinstall that one but the others should work themselves out--that's the beauty of omods.

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    So, I have everything installed and it looks and plays great. A question about Francesco's mod--is there any areas I need to avoid until I'm leveled up? I went almost immediately to Kvatch and entered the gate there. I was handling scamps just fine, up until a rock troll appeared. o_O. They're pretty high-level critters and of course I had no chance at all.

    How should I go about playing the game with this mod installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergo View Post
    How should I go about playing the game with this mod installed?
    Cautiously.

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    Is it possible to install Oblivion onto the same computer a second time? I imagine there would be registry issues to sort out somehow. I've got a more plain jane install witha few simple mods going already and my son is in the midst of it, so I don't want to ditch it and reinstall and lose all his save games.

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    Well, that Streamline mod is a godsend. Still get a little hitching here and there, but overall performance is vastly improved.

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    This thread topic makes me giggle every time. I really need to grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Jones View Post
    Cautiously.
    Meh. I think I'll disable it and play normally.

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