01-28-2009, 07:26 AM
True, but a scene with Foreman checking the medication could easily have been edited out. An example of this happened several episodes ago, the one where House was nice to patients. House is wearing a tie that in a previous scene Wilson was wearing. One can assume that House "borrowed" the tie from Wilson.
Originally Posted by Brian Seiler
01-28-2009, 09:56 AM
I know it was plot pivotal but: A crying baby in the OR?! Could Cuddy be any more stupid?
01-31-2009, 07:36 PM
You know why this show sucks now? House.
I don't know when it happened, but at some point pretty much all of House's jokes started boiling down to "I want to fuck you, aren't I juvenile?" He used to be a prick because he was a brilliant doctor who didn't give a shit about people. Now he's just this creep who can't stop mentioning his co-workers' titties.
Also, as someone with a little bit of human bio experience, the medicine has become completely fucking useless. Of course if House were rigorously true to life most of it would be over my head, but right now it's about tied with Grey's Anatomy when it comes to realism.
I'm going to go watch "Maternity" from season 1 on DVD.
02-03-2009, 05:42 AM
I had a question about last night's episode. If the patient's menstrual blood was all over her body, and was causing the problems, why was that causing her to scratch right through her skin to her brain? How was the blood causing that itch? Did it get into her brain too?
02-03-2009, 05:59 AM
The theory the show runs with is that she has endometriosis, which is less about her menstrual blood being everywhere as it is about the tissue that builds up in the uterus and then sloughs off during the menstrual cycle being distributed randomly throughout her body. Their argument is that the pockets of foreign tissue acted like small, exceptionally bloody tumors, some of which could have been on the brain and/or nerves and prompted the constant itching.
02-03-2009, 06:27 AM
Well, last night's was definitely a stinker, probably the worst one in a while. They really need to make up their mind about what they want to do with Thirteen, because these constant oscillations between interesting and unlikeable are irritating. I found myself hoping against hope that she was going to die last night, after her whole "you did the nicest, most selfless thing anyone has ever done for another human being... we have to break up" nonsense. This subplot with her and Foreman officially sucks now, and it looks like it's going to suck even worse next week. Also horrible: the entire drama of that arc was the threat of him losing his license, and then they cop out, so whoops! it was all for nothing.
And for the love of Pete, can somebody please put more Kutner in the show? He's so obviously the best character that it's almost physically painful to barely even see the guy while we put up with Thirteen's ridiculous horse shit and Talb's marital problems.
02-03-2009, 06:50 AM
I liked Talb's marital problems a lot more when they were only being discussed between him and House. They're a lot less interesting (for some reason) when they're being discussed between him and his wife.
So I don't mind the topic, I just wish they'd stop bringing his wife into it.
Brian: Thanks for the explanation.
02-03-2009, 10:22 AM
Even my stalker-like love for Olivia Wilde (the most beautiful face on TV) could not overcome the craptasticness of last night's episode. It was a true stinker from the unlikeable and medically preposterous (even for House) patient of the week, to the lame "Cuddy gets her House on!" sub-plot, to the crazy pendulum romance of Foreteen. In one 48 hour period they went from "It's so awesome that we're banging and I love watching you sleep" to "I can't believe you tried to save my life and now it's killing me and you're going to risk everything to save me again, I don't think I'm ready for a commitment right now" and back to "It's so awesome that I can see again so I can watch you sleep after we bang not 12 hours after I nearly died and have all this radioactive shit in my head.". "WTF" doesn't even begin to describe the leaps of logic involved in this sub-plot.
I wish they would go back to having people just be collegues instead of trying to toss so many romances into the mix. It's getting too Gray's Anatomy for my taste.
02-03-2009, 01:19 PM
My GF watches this show called "Mystery Diagnosis", at least I think that's what it's called. And the one time I watched it the diagnosis was the same as last night's show. I shit you not, almost the exact thing. As soon as House had his moment of insight talking to Cuddy, I called Endometriosis (sp?). The writers are watching that show I just know it.
02-03-2009, 03:23 PM
I wouldn't get too worried about the long term state of the show. Each season has had a questionable arc so far. One time it was the arc where House's ex comes on the show, another time it was the new owner of the hospital who wanted to make changes and squeeze out House, another time it was the cop who wanted to make life hard for House, etc. All those arcs were never all that well received, but eventually they went away and the show returned to normal. I'm assuming this current arc is going to be the same way.
Originally Posted by Slainte Mhath
02-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Was House pre-empted this week in all markets? In Kansas City, they showed the President's news conference. I suspect they did the same on the East Coast. But what about the West Coast? Are they going to show a new House today, as previously scheduled?
02-09-2009, 07:50 PM
Wasn't on in Mountain time. :(
02-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Got a rerun here in Canada. Booooourns!
02-09-2009, 07:55 PM
There was a new episode scheduled today, but Obamarama bumped it. Fox is shifting the schedule back a week, so the new episode will air next week.
Originally Posted by Rock8man
02-09-2009, 09:36 PM
Yeah, I agree with you. As others have mentioned, he's gotten so misanthropic that he's basically a cartoon at this point. I feel like we've got to be building up to some sort of dramatic resolution that sees him at least partially redeemed as a human, because there's only so far they can go in this direction, unless they want to follow him completing his long drawn-out self destruction and actually losing his job and becoming homeless. If they don't somehow pull the character back from the brink, and the show remains in this kind of 'asshole stasis', I can't see myself continuing to be interested in it. They've got to be aware of the fact that there are problems with the focal point of the show, though, or we wouldn't be seeing all these diversions and sideplots.
Originally Posted by Malcolm Tucker
02-10-2009, 09:18 AM
This. I confirmed through the Fox website that the episode originally scheduled to air last night is now the Feb. 16th episode, pushing the entire season back one week. I like that better than having them try to air an episode on an off-schedule date/time when I'm likely to miss it.
Originally Posted by Woolen Horde
02-10-2009, 12:07 PM
I'm not sure what show you guys have been watching for the last five seasons but, um, House has always been a misanthrope. It's kind of central to his character. His behavior this season has, if anything, been less reprehensible than some of his behavior in seasons past.
Originally Posted by quatoria
02-10-2009, 12:14 PM
Oh, I wouldn't say that. In the first season, Greg actually had civil conversations with people from time to time - particularly Wilson and Cuddy. That's sort of drained out of the show as it's aged, and now just about everything that he says to everybody is something that would get ME punched in the face if I were to do the same thing.
On top of that, we haven't seen nearly as much over the past year and change of House being, you know, a competent doctor. Back when he was still showing up in the clinic, you got to see him diagnose an entire roomful of people in a couple of minutes, and that both made the medical mysteries seem a lot more significant and made the reasons why people put up with him in the first place a lot clearer.
02-10-2009, 12:18 PM
Well, it might be contentious whether House has changed much overall, but I think we can all agree that House should put in more Clinic hours. That was always amusing, and it's a shame they stopped doing that.
02-10-2009, 12:26 PM
The clinic made for some very formulaic episodes.
Opener. Multiple people. One looks sick. That person's friend falls over and bleeds out of every oriface. What a shocker!
House makes fun of his team. They assume a disease, start treatment.
Treatment only makes the patient worse.
House makes fun of his team. They assume another disease, start treatment.
House doesn't want to go to clinic, but does.
Treatment seems to make patient better, then he gets much worse. He's dying!
House makes fun of his team. They assume another disease, start treatment.
House is working with someone in the clinic. They have some completely unrelated problem, but some tangential aspect of it clues House into the real problem. ("Your kid's rash is just poison oak. Wait, oaks are trees! Trees have leaves! Leaves are green! Green like money! The problem is clearly mononucleosis!")
House races to stop the other treatment and saves the day.
02-10-2009, 12:33 PM
Errrr.....doesn't pretty much EVERY episode of House these days follow this formula? At least the clinic made for some funny scenarios.
02-10-2009, 12:36 PM
Yeah bahimiron, you described every House episode, but mixed in some clinic duty. You forgot to mention that clinic duty usually injects some humor into the episode. Besides, whether House gets his big revelation from someone he's treating in the clinic or gets it from talking to Wilson or Cuddy, or one of the others, it amounts to the same thing. At least the Clinic provides a change of pace.
02-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Hey, I wasn't complaining that House is an asshole. I love that he's an asshole. I just don't like how his assholism has gone from "You are stupid and hypocritical and bad at your job" to "Durrr! Boobies!"
02-10-2009, 02:09 PM
Or a plumber scratching his junk.
Originally Posted by Rock8man
The formula isn't what's wrong with House, it's the direction the character has taken. I've seen a lot of Season 1 & 2 episodes lately on the marathons, and House IS different in them. He's still House, but in a way that's much more sarcastically cantankerous than outlandishly asshatterous. I still laugh at some of the things he says, but before I could also laugh when someone reacted to him in an unexpected way or a situation turned on him to take him by surprise, now the universal reaction to him in nearly every episode is loathing and nothing seems to effect him in any way anymore.
02-11-2009, 12:12 PM
Exactly. They've taken him so far down the road of self destruction that they're running out of interesting depths to plumb. Without a bit of rehabilitation, or at least a respite, it's quickly becoming stale. Something has to change in his life. Endless iterations and variations of his thinly disguised misanthropic misery just can't hold up the show alone, even with an actor as brilliant as Laurie in the titular role.
Originally Posted by Slainte Mhath
02-16-2009, 05:28 PM
I wonder if Jesse Spencer liked the lines about office romances being a bad idea.
02-17-2009, 08:37 AM
Good episode last night. I liked the main story and House/Cuddy. At this point, I can safely ignore Fore-teen, though even that effort on House's part was somewhat amusing.
02-17-2009, 08:58 AM
I've come to accept the Foreteen thing if only because it puts Olivia Wilde's beautiful face on screen more often. I too thought the play between House-Cuddy-Wilson last night was much better than recent episodes, and even the patient of the week was pretty interesting this time around. I like how House almost seemed comfortable with the atheist priest, and the banter they had reminded me more of the original House before he became such a giant asshat. I hope the show continues in this direction.
02-17-2009, 09:04 AM
I think Cuddy and Wilson are dreadful. Really dreadful people.
House is a pretty miserable creature, but honestly, I still manage to sympathize with him. I realize I'm in the minority here, but I still like him. He's in constant pain, and is also constantly harrassed (not so much these days, but still) for attempting to cope with that pain. And he's in that much pain because of Cuddy. Fuck her. He's a better person than all of them.
Cuddy and Wilson are just so nasty to him. Either they're hectoring him to be something he isn't, or they're ham fistedly attempting to manipulate him so that they can avoid him (aw, but she really wanted him to come after all! Aw, but she didn't have the guts to admit it. Nice one.), or they're unfairly blaming him for the death of their loved one, or whatever. It's loathesome behavior and they're much harder for me to watch than misanthropic House.
He's obviously brilliant, he's almost never wrong, so why don't they just let House be House? I suppose that wouldn't be much of a show, but manufacturing this kind of drama makes me want to throw my shoe at the TV. Every week. Jesus, Sherlock Holmes didn't have to put up with an asinine administrator and we still liked those stories.
Also, could the show possibly spend any more time on dialogue between characters that's basically exposition about their motivations? Lordy, but it gets tiresome.
Also, good for Fore-teen. Amor omnia vincit and all that.
I should probably stop watching it, because it gets my goat. But after all these years, I still really like watching Hugh Laurie dissolve into that character.
02-17-2009, 09:14 AM
Wait....what? How is House in pain because of Cuddy? It was his ex-girlfriend who chopped off half the useful part of his leg. Wilson never really blamed House so much for Amber dying, if you believe his exposition. And House does a reasonable amount of being a dick for the sake of being a dick. I mean, I AM House and I still wouldn't say he's in any way "better" than the other people around him. It's kind of shaky pool to try and manipulate him into doing stuff, but he's proven repeatedly in the past that that's the only way you can ever get him to do anything anyway.
Also, House is unfortunately FREQUENTLY wrong these days, which is one of my problems with the show. Every week is an hour of him buggering the problem royally, seeing something utterly unrelated, and the pieces falling together with an audible click. It would be awesome if we could see him being right more often.