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    Yeah, the "scoring" thing needs to go...other than that, another great podcast!

    I'm curious though why people constantly bring up this idea that World of Warcraft should go to consoles. Outside of the exhorbitent issues they already discussed, they're forgetting the tiny detail of financial benefit.

    I mean, Billy's argument *for* WoW on consoles is basically the exact reason why they wouldn't do it - "I would switch to WoW on consoles and know a bunch of other people who would too!". That's the key right there - switch.

    Why the hell would Blizzard invest millions of dollars and headaches porting a game when they wouldn't have much chance to get a new audience? What's the financial benefit when most people playing the console version would just be people who are already playing it on PC right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelT View Post
    Garnett's rather transparent effort to further ESPN-ize "Four Minute Warning" with a points system was ill-conceived. The gimmick only works when you can the persistent score on a screen to keep track of who's winning. Besides, I liked FMW better when it was a special event and not a regular feature.

    (But if we ARE going to score them, they all should have received a big fat zero for claiming the high point of the Star Wars flight sim games was X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter; TIE Fighter proper, X-Wing Alliance, and even Jump to Lightspeed were all vastly superior titles.)
    Agree that the points should go, but FMW works as a weekly event. Plus I like that they take questions from listeners and use them as points of discussion.

    The X-Wing vs Tie Fighter debate will be decided when Lucasarts releases the series on Steam (I hope).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUSteve View Post
    but not really the other two guys, especially the blondish guy with the extremely douchey hair
    That would be Alex Albrecht, who kind of gets the joke and kind of doesn't. His birthday gift was a large artistic portrait of himself looking stately, which he recognizes is funny, but I'm not sure he knows WHY it's funny. Trachtenberg is the velcro-headed wannabe director that hosts all the movie segments and does a decent job and generally gets lots of stuff factually wrong all the rest of the time. He just irritates me on general principles. I assume he exudes some kind of phehormone that communicates over the web to the angry centers of my brain to try and convince me to throttle him. Cannata is mostly harmless - I just tend to get riled up whenever he tries to make a "Games As Art" case for anything, and it's rare to hear him actually tee off on something he doesn't like (which makes sense - pretty sure he picks the stuff they cover for that segment), and, just like the rest of them, I've caught him in factual inaccuracies and that bugs the everliving shit out of me. It's possible that I'd like him better on his other podcast, which I have yet to add to the list because I am a bad and lazy person, but WILL get around to.

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    Enjoyed the latest Weekend Confirmed. Jeff Cannata is the only one who really rubs me the wrong way. He just seems like he kind of hates games. I mean he obviously doesn't hate all games, but his comments about Just Cause 2 (specifically about the plot and dialogue) and other games being frustrating give me the impression that he only likes games that fit within a very specific set of parameters. By itself that's fine but he doesn't seem to realize that his taste in games isn't everyone else's taste in games. This is a problem with lots of people everywhere (including other podcasts), but Jeff seems to take it further than most.

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    (replies to multiple posts below)

    I think the "Drunk with Power" scored section of Weekend Confirmed was a separate bit from the 4 Min Warning. I liked that it was something different, at least.

    I think there would be a significant number of new players of WOW on the console(s). It's just a wild guess, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of console owners don't use their computers at all for gaming (mostly because the computer is for use by parents, or just for homework/internet?). I have no data to back that up, so it's kind of pointless, but, hey, it's the internet, what can I say?

    They probably mentioned X-wing Vs. TIE fighter due to its multiplayer component, which I think would be a requirement for any new space flight game.

    I've been a fan of the Totally Rad Show since its inception and I understand the complaints leveled here. Though I'm not sure how hair can be douchey.

    I'm not sure what XenoCrash is saying about Jeff not realizing that his tastes aren't everyones? Can you give an example of that (even from other podcasts, as you mention)? Personally, I like different takes on stuff. Though I definitely plan to check it out, I have the feeling I'm going to have the same issue with Just Cause 2, as my primary mode of play for most games is via the storyline/campaign. I rarely play games just to explore or mess around. I'm too dumb to come up with my own fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtkafka View Post
    Yes! Say what you want about Garnett being a great host, he is no Stewart Cheifet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentdog View Post
    Yes! Say what you want about Garnett being a great host, he is no Stewart Cheifet.
    I just like that this show had a 'preview' of that activision space shuttle game... I got that game as a xmas gift from my dearly departed dad when i was a kid.... he probably thought i'd learn something about something! actually i did! that game got me into jets and flight sims... and astronomy...oh nostalgia.

    pc gaming can be solitary bliss at its best when its good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentdog View Post
    I'm not sure what XenoCrash is saying about Jeff not realizing that his tastes aren't everyones? Can you give an example of that (even from other podcasts, as you mention)? Personally, I like different takes on stuff.
    I knew I would called on that :)
    I don't have a good example, but that's because its more of a feeling than any sort of specific behaviour.

    Also, I enjoy different takes on things as well (including Jeff's) but I sometimes get annoyed by gamers who seem like they don't actually like games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelT View Post
    Garnett's rather transparent effort to further ESPN-ize "Four Minute Warning" with a points system was ill-conceived. The gimmick only works when you can the persistent score on a screen to keep track of who's winning. Besides, I liked FMW better when it was a special event and not a regular feature.

    (But if we ARE going to score them, they all should have received a big fat zero for claiming the high point of the Star Wars flight sim games was X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter; TIE Fighter proper, X-Wing Alliance, and even Jump to Lightspeed were all vastly superior titles.)
    More to the point, they said that X-Wing vs Tie Fighter was the most recent game in the series.

    Also, and more oddly, one of them claimed that SSX 3 was the third game in that series. Um, no :/

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    ...but it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUSteve View Post
    I've watched TRS a couple of times. I always liked Cannata, but not really the other two guys, especially the blondish guy with the extremely douchey hair. I mean, unless he's ironically trying to look like a douche, I don't understand why he does that. I did think the segment where he got to go up with the Blue Angels was pretty cool though.
    This made me laugh. I don't watch TRS either. Though I do enjoy Diggnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam and the firefly View Post
    More to the point, they said that X-Wing vs Tie Fighter was the most recent game in the series.

    Also, and more oddly, one of them claimed that SSX 3 was the third game in that series. Um, no :/
    SSX, SSX Tricky, SSX 3, SSX On Tour, SSX Blur, isn't it?

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    Just started listening to the latest Weekend Confirmed. It's nice to hear Billy Berghammer on the podcast. Does anyone know what the heck happened with him at G4? I don't think I've ever heard him discuss why he was let go. It's a bummer because he seems like a good guy.

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    I thought that G4 had to contract in general back during the darkest of the recent dark days, when they shifted from nightly X-Play to only a few nights a week. That's just me pulling vague memories out of my butt, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Seiler View Post
    I thought that G4 had to contract in general back during the darkest of the recent dark days, when they shifted from nightly X-Play to only a few nights a week. That's just me pulling vague memories out of my butt, though.
    Yeah, but they hired Patrick Klepeck, Sterling McGarvey, and Andrew Pfister after that, didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelT View Post
    SSX, SSX Tricky, SSX 3, SSX On Tour, SSX Blur, isn't it?
    That's how I remember it. Maybe Sam and the Firefly is counting some kind of handheld game or something?

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    Oh hang on, I'm an idiot!

    SSX3 is the third game in the series, that's what I meant to say. The dude on the podcast said it was the fourth, though! He thought SSX2 and Tricky were different games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam and the firefly View Post
    Oh hang on, I'm an idiot!

    SSX3 is the third game in the series, that's what I meant to say. The dude on the podcast said it was the fourth, though! He thought SSX2 and Tricky were different games.
    Y'see, everyone makes mistakes.

    MSUSteve not liking Albrecht for his hair made me laugh. One day he's going to catch an episode of Top Chef and absolutely lose his goddamn mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tromik View Post
    MSUSteve not liking Albrecht for his hair made me laugh.
    This makes me realize that I am a jerk. I was going to say that I didn't like Albrecht AND I didn't like his hair, but then couldn't come up with a reason why I didn't like the guy other than his hair (and the constant devil horns sign he made while in the Blue Angel jet) and concluded that I'm an asshole. I pledge to give Albrecht a fair shot despite his stupid hair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUSteve View Post
    This makes me realize that I am a jerk. I was going to say that I didn't like Albrecht AND I didn't like his hair, but then couldn't come up with a reason why I didn't like the guy other than his hair (and the constant devil horns sign he made while in the Blue Angel jet) and concluded that I'm an asshole. I pledge to give Albrecht a fair shot despite his stupid hair!
    No....his behavior pretty much fits the hair. I think of him as the guy nerd version of Tila Tequila - he sort of gets what's funny about him, but he sort of doesn't, because he still plays it straight. I'm not sure whether I respect him for it or not and I've been watching him for a year. I don't hate him, but he definitely acts like a guy with a douchey hairstyle. Sort of like Brian Brushwood with the opposite kind of charisma, if that makes any sense at all.

    It helps me, though, that he and I have somewhat similar taste in television.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Seiler View Post
    No....his behavior pretty much fits the hair. I think of him as the guy nerd version of Tila Tequila - he sort of gets what's funny about him, but he sort of doesn't, because he still plays it straight. I'm not sure whether I respect him for it or not and I've been watching him for a year. I don't hate him, but he definitely acts like a guy with a douchey hairstyle.
    Does he? He seems friendly to everyone. Maybe our definitions of douche are different.

    Anyway, I'm sure you're not a jerk Steve, but judging someone by their hair is a bit of a jerk move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tromik View Post
    Anyway, I'm sure you're not a jerk Steve, but judging someone by their hair is a bit of a jerk move.
    Agreed!

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    Albrecht seems like a very nice guy. I just don't want to see him on the podcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tromik View Post
    Y'see, everyone makes mistakes.

    MSUSteve not liking Albrecht for his hair made me laugh. One day he's going to catch an episode of Top Chef and absolutely lose his goddamn mind.
    I dunno, I think an absent-minded typo is definitely less of a big deal than not having the history of the entire SSX series committed to memory. What a wannabe.

    SSX3 is certainly the peak (...) of the series, though, I'm sure we can all agree on that.

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    I've heard "super-fun" about a gajillion times this week on many podcasts. That's like saying "extra tasty". PLEASE STOP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenoCrash View Post
    Enjoyed the latest Weekend Confirmed. Jeff Cannata is the only one who really rubs me the wrong way. He just seems like he kind of hates games.
    I have to disagree here. I thought Cannata was the only voice of reason (though Billy supported him) during the Bioshock 2 discussion. Leahy's statement that the combat in Bioshock 2 is mechanically unsound was ridiculous. The shooting in Bioshock 2 is excellent, and indeed, much better than Bioshock 1. Mechanics wise, I think Bioshock 2 beats the hell out of Bioshock 1. I can understand not being as enamored with the sequel because the setting is a known quantity, but to attack the base mechanics of the game as bad is ridiculous to me.

    I also thought the "scoring" of the Four Minute Warning segment was extremely dumb.

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    "I also thought the "scoring" of the Four Minute Warning segment was extremely dumb."

    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUSteve View Post
    I also thought the "scoring" of the Four Minute Warning segment was extremely dumb.
    I agree. Does anybody care who wins? Listening to Garnett trying to decide how to split up 15 points among the 3 other guys was sort of tedious.

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    He knows that when they do that on the variety or news shows like Good News Week or Who's Line that it's, like, a joke, right?

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