Reply With QuoteHe needs to be more cerebral. Jude Law would be a good choice for the Riddler, I think.
I think The Riddler would need to be someone who could be very suave and charismatic to lure people in, then switch gears to menacing and sadistic and dark, dark, dark. Clive Owen just popped into my head when typing this, but I haven't really given a lot of thought as to who I'd cast.
He needs to be more cerebral. Jude Law would be a good choice for the Riddler, I think.
Kevin Spacey?
Enough with the Kevin Spacey already.
Daniel Day LewisOriginally Posted by Mike Cathcart
Christian Bale.
Yeah, something like his American Psycho character might work if you weren't going for too wacky.
Winnar.
I don't know about you but I kind of don't want them to do another. After this movie, there is no way they can top it.
Final total came out. A bit higher at $158.3 million.
Are these numbers meaningful as anything other than an inflation index? How about tickets sold as a percentage of population? Gross revenues as a percentage of GDP?
Here's the plot of the third movie:
Batman is hunted and on the run from the cops, the public starts to hate him, etc..
Someone starts sending complex riddles to the cops, boasting of his brilliance and challenging them to solve the riddles in time...he's a serial killer and mass murderer...
At first, everyone suspects Batman is behind the killings, and even Gordon starts to wonder....
Then, a break in the case, they determine that the killer runs in high society, probably has a lot of money, is charming and respected, etc...so, eventually, Gordon sets his sights on Bruce Wayne and starts investigating him...
So you have poor Bruce/Bats being hunted from every direction, his assets get frozen, he's publicly distrusted and/or hated in either identity, etc...
So he has to do actual detective work this time, while hiding and avoiding either capture and arrest from the cops or lynch mobbing from the public, etc...
Also, they go full on with the darkness and don't try for a PG-13. Joy and rapture will follow.
They already did that movie. It's called The Fugitive.
Mentioning The Fugitive only brings up memories of Tommy Lee Jones' last foray into the Bat franchise, and makes everyone cry. For shame, Dirt!
Hell yeah, I was actually thinking about that this morning.
You know what? Let's take it in another 2007 Oscar-winner direction and just have Batman vs. Anton Chigurh.
I thought the current thinking was that Mike Engel (Anthony Michael Hall) was going to become the Riddler in the next movie. Am I mistaken?
I don't remember a Mike Engel from the comics, and my google-fu has forsaken me.
Demonstrating once again that any part would be even more awesome played by Daniel Day Lewis.
-Tom
That's a good point, AMH had way too much face time as a nameless character in this movie. He's got to be prepping for something.
That was just a bizarre rumor followed by some equally bizarre wishful thinking. Basically, it was rumored that Anthony Michael Hall was going to be in the movie, and then people got all worked up and started speculating about it. Somehow, from that, the rumors turned into him being the Riddler and appearing in the Dark Knight or something. Hall himself sort of laughed at the whole thing because it was never said one way or the other what role he would have in TDK, and its pretty clear that his character Engel isn't going to become the Riddler.
Catwoman?
Oh god yes.
Daniel Day Lewis as the Penguin could be interesting.
Hey now. Hamill is great as the Joker and was the definitive portrayal before TDK. Or is, if you prefer a more classic version of the character to Ledger's psycho killer anarchist.
Me? I love them both.
I saw TDK yesterday for the second time last night (second and a bit, if I count a horrible experience with the local IMAX theater over the weekend). It's definitely worth a second viewing for savoring the performances. I loved hearing Heath Ledger's laugh as he walked into the crime bosses' meeting, and the "LOOK AT ME!" he bellowed at the Batman wannabe. And Maggie Gyllenhaal did an excellent job [DELETED]. I previously mentioned that I would have preferred to see Katie Holmes reprising the role, but I have to wonder how she might have fumble that key scene.
One thing that struck me as the credits rolled was how satisfying the ending was, considering all the downers of the plot and the incompleteness of the story. Maybe it's Gary Oldman's voice summarizing Nolan's concept of Batman, or that wonderful shot of the Batpod emerging from a tunnel and into the light. Whatever it was, I definitely walked out of the theater feeling full.
Some thoughts:
-I agree with the criticism of Christian Bale's Batman voice, which wasn't that great in Batman Begins to begin with. (Recall the corny way he delivered, "It's not who we are underneath...") In the aftermath of the final confrontation with Two-Face, Bale sounded like he was threatening to kick Steve Austin's ass.
-Re: Batman's look. What I really liked in TDK was how dark Batman's eyes appeared, especially when he interrogated the Joker. In every other Batman movie you could always make out the whites of his eyes. In TDK, and in that scene particularly, they were like a couple of black marbles. The "sonar-vision" bright eyes were also a nice touch.
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I'm still wondering how they managed to pull that off.
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Still numba one. At this stage I thought it'd start drifting down already.
Also, the weekend total is apparently $158.4 mil.
Lauren Graham. If not, Emily Watson as Lady Vic.
Yeah.
It's the MPAA, there is no logic, only money.
Cluemaster? Firefly?
Let's not forget Zsasz was in BB, entirely possible. I remember seeing Wesker as well, but Google tells me no. Warren White was in TDK, no?
Hmm...other rogue's gallery wishes. Rachel Weisz as Nocturna, Jon Hamm as Hush, Daniel-Day Lewis as The Mad Hatter, Jim Carrey as Black Mask, Javier Bardem as Crime Doctor, Adam Sandler as the Penguin, Marlon Wayans as Maxie Zeus, James McEvoy as Cornelius Stirk, Dylan Walsh as Crazy Quilt, Michael Beck as Deacon Blackfire, Sarah Silverman as Magpie or Mime, George Clooney as Reaper, and Daniel Craig as Red Hood.
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Thanks, I thought this thread was safe for us poor germans who have to wait a month for the movie, but I guess I have to stay out of here now too.
Deepest apologies, Turin. I was reading several Dark Knight threads simultaneously and got confused about which one I was posting in.
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